[Biofuel] Dear all... [3]

2012-10-24 Thread Keith Addison
Sorry for the delay. I've got a day or two now.

Time is up soon anyway with the host service, we had a year and it's 
about to run out, so it's not a matter of paying them, but thanks so 
much to those who offered, onlist and off.

I think Chip and Jeromie and I need to discuss nuts and bolts 
offlist. When we have news you'll all have it too, and meanwhile I'll 
keep up with the daily posts (sorry it was a bit erratic over the 
last few days, but I think it's all there now).

Please spare a thought or a prayer for a list member in Australia who 
is undergoing radiotherapy after his cancer returned for a second 
time.

All best

Keith


Lots of replies! I read them all, at least once. Many of them said
very complimentary things that I wasn't at all aware of. (Another
deep bow.) I haven't started replying yet, I'll do it as I can.

It's given me a clearer picture of how the list works and what people
use it for. Two points emerge: members like the news snippets, and
they don't want the list to close.

I've said we'll be replacing the list with a new online community,
and I thought it could wait until then. But maybe not, maybe you're
right, it shouldn't close.

Okay, so we won't close it then.

I checked it out with the host service, and we have another few weeks
yet, so there's no big hurry, we'll figure out the nuts and bolts
before then. The host service has been great, but we can't continue
with them.

For 12 years now I've been committed to the list, as list owner and,
well, its guardian, I suppose, but times change, and I can't afford
to do that any longer, there just isn't enough time in the day. I'll
be there, the guy who posts the news snippets, but probably not much
more than that.

About the archives. As long as the listserve distributes the messages
to the members, the archives updates automatically. With only
snippets, sent direct, it wouldn't do that. If we continue with a
listserve then the archives will stay current. (And the listserve
software we need is Mailman.)

And, no, Journey to Forever is not closing. The list and Journey to
Forever are associated, but not the same. I'm working full-time for
Journey to Forever now (that's the problem).

Regarding news feeds, several members said they've subscribed to Tom
Feeley's Information Clearing House - For Global Justice. I have
great admiration for Tom. He does a huge amount of work every day,
and I've never seen him put a foot wrong. He's faced death threats,
at least twice, but he's unstoppable. This is his website:

Information Clearing House
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

Scroll down a bit and have a look at the column on the right listing
the sources he checks, impressive. If you appreciate his work, please
send Tom a few bucks every now and then if you can spare it. He
regularly runs out of money and posts a plea in his newsletter, but
what he never does is send out streams of in-your-face hard-sells for
support like Common Dreams, Truthout and most of the other news sites
do. He says he'd rather do what he's supposed to be doing, searching
out the news. I know exactly how he feels!

If I cut incoming news feeds down to the essentials (which I'm trying
to do), it would be Information Clearing House, Common Dreams and
Truthout.

Common Dreams
http://www.commondreams.org/

Truthout
http://truth-out.org/

It's easy to dig deeper if you need to.

All best, and thanks again, very much

Keith


It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host
service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but
suddenly the music will stop.

The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the
road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing
from me.

Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the
news, I do it anyway.

If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily
snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know -
  offlist please.

All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This
list has taught me so much (deep bow).

Regards to all.

  Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all... [3]

2012-10-24 Thread robert and benita rabello
On 10/24/2012 7:28 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
 Please spare a thought or a prayer for a list member in Australia who
 is undergoing radiotherapy after his cancer returned for a second
 time.

 Consider it done!

  
Robert Luis Rabello
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.newadventure.ca

Meet the People video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txsCdh1hZ6c

Crisis video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZedNEXhTn4

The Long Journey video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy4muxaksgk


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all... [2]

2012-10-16 Thread Frank
Hi, just want to say a quick thanks 4 all the worldly info  am glad to hear 
that it will continue.  

Count us in 4 any new list/posting so that we may stay on the cutting edge of 
truth... the way 

it should be.  You are an inspiration  a breath of Ozone-FREE Air!





 From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 4:25 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all... [2]
 
Lots of replies! I read them all, at least once. Many of them said 
very complimentary things that I wasn't at all aware of. (Another 
deep bow.) I haven't started replying yet, I'll do it as I can.

It's given me a clearer picture of how the list works and what people 
use it for. Two points emerge: members like the news snippets, and 
they don't want the list to close.

I've said we'll be replacing the list with a new online community, 
and I thought it could wait until then. But maybe not, maybe you're 
right, it shouldn't close.

Okay, so we won't close it then.

I checked it out with the host service, and we have another few weeks 
yet, so there's no big hurry, we'll figure out the nuts and bolts 
before then. The host service has been great, but we can't continue 
with them.

For 12 years now I've been committed to the list, as list owner and, 
well, its guardian, I suppose, but times change, and I can't afford 
to do that any longer, there just isn't enough time in the day. I'll 
be there, the guy who posts the news snippets, but probably not much 
more than that.

About the archives. As long as the listserve distributes the messages 
to the members, the archives updates automatically. With only 
snippets, sent direct, it wouldn't do that. If we continue with a 
listserve then the archives will stay current. (And the listserve 
software we need is Mailman.)

And, no, Journey to Forever is not closing. The list and Journey to 
Forever are associated, but not the same. I'm working full-time for 
Journey to Forever now (that's the problem).

Regarding news feeds, several members said they've subscribed to Tom 
Feeley's Information Clearing House - For Global Justice. I have 
great admiration for Tom. He does a huge amount of work every day, 
and I've never seen him put a foot wrong. He's faced death threats, 
at least twice, but he's unstoppable. This is his website:

Information Clearing House
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

Scroll down a bit and have a look at the column on the right listing 
the sources he checks, impressive. If you appreciate his work, please 
send Tom a few bucks every now and then if you can spare it. He 
regularly runs out of money and posts a plea in his newsletter, but 
what he never does is send out streams of in-your-face hard-sells for 
support like Common Dreams, Truthout and most of the other news sites 
do. He says he'd rather do what he's supposed to be doing, searching 
out the news. I know exactly how he feels!

If I cut incoming news feeds down to the essentials (which I'm trying 
to do), it would be Information Clearing House, Common Dreams and 
Truthout.

Common Dreams
http://www.commondreams.org/

Truthout
http://truth-out.org/

It's easy to dig deeper if you need to.

All best, and thanks again, very much

Keith


It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host 
service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but 
suddenly the music will stop.

The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the 
road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing 
from me.

Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the 
news, I do it anyway.

If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily 
snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - 
offlist please.

All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This 
list has taught me so much (deep bow).

Regards to all.

Keith


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[Biofuel] Dear all... [2]

2012-10-15 Thread Keith Addison
Lots of replies! I read them all, at least once. Many of them said 
very complimentary things that I wasn't at all aware of. (Another 
deep bow.) I haven't started replying yet, I'll do it as I can.

It's given me a clearer picture of how the list works and what people 
use it for. Two points emerge: members like the news snippets, and 
they don't want the list to close.

I've said we'll be replacing the list with a new online community, 
and I thought it could wait until then. But maybe not, maybe you're 
right, it shouldn't close.

Okay, so we won't close it then.

I checked it out with the host service, and we have another few weeks 
yet, so there's no big hurry, we'll figure out the nuts and bolts 
before then. The host service has been great, but we can't continue 
with them.

For 12 years now I've been committed to the list, as list owner and, 
well, its guardian, I suppose, but times change, and I can't afford 
to do that any longer, there just isn't enough time in the day. I'll 
be there, the guy who posts the news snippets, but probably not much 
more than that.

About the archives. As long as the listserve distributes the messages 
to the members, the archives updates automatically. With only 
snippets, sent direct, it wouldn't do that. If we continue with a 
listserve then the archives will stay current. (And the listserve 
software we need is Mailman.)

And, no, Journey to Forever is not closing. The list and Journey to 
Forever are associated, but not the same. I'm working full-time for 
Journey to Forever now (that's the problem).

Regarding news feeds, several members said they've subscribed to Tom 
Feeley's Information Clearing House - For Global Justice. I have 
great admiration for Tom. He does a huge amount of work every day, 
and I've never seen him put a foot wrong. He's faced death threats, 
at least twice, but he's unstoppable. This is his website:

Information Clearing House
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/

Scroll down a bit and have a look at the column on the right listing 
the sources he checks, impressive. If you appreciate his work, please 
send Tom a few bucks every now and then if you can spare it. He 
regularly runs out of money and posts a plea in his newsletter, but 
what he never does is send out streams of in-your-face hard-sells for 
support like Common Dreams, Truthout and most of the other news sites 
do. He says he'd rather do what he's supposed to be doing, searching 
out the news. I know exactly how he feels!

If I cut incoming news feeds down to the essentials (which I'm trying 
to do), it would be Information Clearing House, Common Dreams and 
Truthout.

Common Dreams
http://www.commondreams.org/

Truthout
http://truth-out.org/

It's easy to dig deeper if you need to.

All best, and thanks again, very much

Keith


It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host 
service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but 
suddenly the music will stop.

The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the 
road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing 
from me.

Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the 
news, I do it anyway.

If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily 
snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - 
offlist please.

All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This 
list has taught me so much (deep bow).

Regards to all.

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-14 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I have enjoyed my time on JTF. Thank you for what you have done. As
others have offered, I to offer
to support and keep the list going. $Dayjob* has plenty of resources
to do so free of charge and they
would feel it an Honor to donate back to the community.


*I own $Dayjob so its easy to talk the boss into things =-)

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host
 service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but
 suddenly the music will stop.

 The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the
 road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing
 from me.

 Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the
 news, I do it anyway.

 If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily
 snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know -
 offlist please.

 All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This
 list has taught me so much (deep bow).

 Regards to all.

 Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-13 Thread dwoodard
 Keith, how much do you need to keep it going?

 Do you plan to continue the archives/database? (is this also 
 threaatened?)

 Doug Woodard
 St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:26:41 +0200, Keith Addison 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host
 service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but
 suddenly the music will stop.

 The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the
 road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing
 from me.

 Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the
 news, I do it anyway.

 If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily
 snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know -
 offlist please.

 All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This
 list has taught me so much (deep bow).

 Regards to all.

 Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-13 Thread Tyler Arnold
Keith, I'm not sure how to let you know offlist, but I am happy to say this
publicly: I have been silently lurking for years and consider your news
snippets one of my best sources for real news, and have a great deal of
respect for the work that you do and the community you have run -- it has
put me on to paths I would not have otherwise got on and I'm glad of it.
Count me in, too.

-Tyler 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Bob Molloy
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 8:53 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

Hi Keith,
Count me in.
Regards,
Bob.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Keith Addison
Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 4:27 a.m.
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all...

It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host service
will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but suddenly the music
will stop.

The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the road,
but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing from me.

Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the news, I
do it anyway.

If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily snippets, I
don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - offlist please.

All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This list
has taught me so much (deep bow).

Regards to all.

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-13 Thread Michele Stephenson
Dito...

Michele

On Oct 13, 2012, at 6:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Keith, how much do you need to keep it going?
 
 Do you plan to continue the archives/database? (is this also 
 threaatened?)
 
 Doug Woodard
 St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
 
 
 
 On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:26:41 +0200, Keith Addison 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host
 service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but
 suddenly the music will stop.
 
 The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the
 road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing
 from me.
 
 Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the
 news, I do it anyway.
 
 If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily
 snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know -
 offlist please.
 
 All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This
 list has taught me so much (deep bow).
 
 Regards to all.
 
 Keith
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-13 Thread Doug
Keith,
 I would like the dailies too please. I will miss the JTF resource.

 This is one real problem witrh the web: so much information just disappears. 
One real issue I find now is that the newer information is now on closed sites.

regards Doug


On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:52:33 Bob Molloy wrote:
 Hi Keith,
 Count me in.
 Regards,
 Bob.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Keith Addison
 Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 4:27 a.m.
 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all...
 
 It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host service
 will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but suddenly the music
 will stop.
 
 The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the road,
 but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing from me.
 
 Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the news, I
 do it anyway.
 
 If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily snippets, I
 don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - offlist please.
 
 All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This list
 has taught me so much (deep bow).
 
 Regards to all.
 
 Keith
 
 
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[Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-12 Thread Keith Addison
It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host 
service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but 
suddenly the music will stop.

The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the 
road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing 
from me.

Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the 
news, I do it anyway.

If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily 
snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - 
offlist please.

All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This 
list has taught me so much (deep bow).

Regards to all.

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-12 Thread Chip Mefford
Hey Keith, 

I can host the list if you like, 

Just say'n. 

What will happen to the archives? 

(I'm only panicking mildly)

- Original Message -
 From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:26:41 AM
 Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all...
 It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host
 service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but
 suddenly the music will stop.
 
 The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the
 road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing
 from me.
 
 Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the
 news, I do it anyway.
 
 If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily
 snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know -
 offlist please.
 
 All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This
 list has taught me so much (deep bow).
 
 Regards to all.
 
 Keith
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-12 Thread Chris Burck
chip that would be amazing.

keith,

au contraire, it is you who should *take* a bow.  you have done
a great service.  truly.  the first time i ran across jtf, i don't know how
long
the list had been around (and come to think of it, i still don't lol), but
it
seemed very well established and my first thought was 'oh this is so cool'.
my next thought was 'how did i not find this until now!?!?'

i really do enjoy your daily news roundups as well.  i will miss them.

On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Keith,

 I can host the list if you like,

 Just say'n.

 What will happen to the archives?

 (I'm only panicking mildly)

 - Original Message -
  From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
  Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:26:41 AM
  Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all...
  It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host
  service will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but
  suddenly the music will stop.
 
  The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the
  road, but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing
  from me.
 
  Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the
  news, I do it anyway.
 
  If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily
  snippets, I don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know -
  offlist please.
 
  All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This
  list has taught me so much (deep bow).
 
  Regards to all.
 
  Keith
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Dear all...

2012-10-12 Thread Bob Molloy
Hi Keith,
Count me in.
Regards,
Bob.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Keith Addison
Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 4:27 a.m.
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] Dear all...

It's October, the list is going to run out of time soon and the host service
will close it down. I'm not sure of the exact date, but suddenly the music
will stop.

The new community I mentioned previously is still some way down the road,
but it will eventually happen. When it does, you'll be hearing from me.

Meanwhile, the list will stop, but I won't. I'll keep harvesting the news, I
do it anyway.

If any list members would like to keep receiving these daily snippets, I
don't mind sending them direct. Please let me know - offlist please.

All best, and a very big thanks for everything, over the years. This list
has taught me so much (deep bow).

Regards to all.

Keith


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