Re: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver

   The best address to send complaints to is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which whois
lists as the administrative contact for ntlworld.com), also I've found that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] workds and neither give an autoreply. 




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[biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Keith Addison

Dear all

The problem some or most or all of us been having with unwanted 
subscriptions to a Lyris list should now be solved. That's this one:

Lyris ListManager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The people who run this list, Elsevier Science (Singapore) Pte Ltd, 
have been very cooperative, but they can't find the problem so 
they've closed down that list until they do find it.

Unlike ntlworld.com, who keep sending us messages each time we post 
that [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s mailbox is full. Each time I get 
one of those they automatically get an abuse complaint in return, 
which they auto-respond to, which gets them another abuse complaint, 
but they take no notice, obviously they're not going to pull their 
fingers out (or maybe it's their heads).

I discovered that, though [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member 
here, he's registered under another name, so I unsubscribed him, but 
the nuisance continues. We also have two other ntlworld.com members, 
so I'm unsubscribing them too, and notifying them of course. I hope 
this will fix the problem, and that those members will try to do 
something about their ISP, at least if they want to rejoin. Meanwhile 
no further members from that ISP will be accepted.

I'm really sorry about all this, I hope things will soon return to 
normal (whatever that may be).

Please let me know if you're having any other such problems.

Thanks for your patience.

Regards

Keith
Moderator, as such



Hi Motie

 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi all
  
   Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this:
  
The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   john.rogers9 is not a member of this list, by the way. I don't know
   what to do about it.
  
   Another oddity - both Midori and I have been getting strange
 messages
   from Yahoo about list subscriptions. Midori has received a
   notification asking her to confirm her subscription to the
 Biodiesel
   group, and another one to the vegoil-diesel group, though she had
   definitely not subscribed to either. I've received three rejection
   notices from Yahoo saying that my attempt to subscribe to the
   Biodiesel group has been rejected because I'm already a member; I
   definitely did not attempt to subscribe. Is this happening to
 anyone
   else? Is this Yahoo or some smartass? Any ideas? Seems very weird
 to
   me.
  
   Thanks
  
   Keith
 
 I just got a post returned for overquota to the address you
 mentioned. I also got the same emails to confirm my subscriptions.

Was that this one that Todd mentioned, which I'm also getting?
Lyris ListManager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or the Yahoo groups Midori and I are getting?

  I am speculating that it is a residual portion of the Virus that has
 been around, using our Email addresses as From and mailing to other
 Email addresses it picks up. The Yahoo mailer may be picking these up
 as requests for subscription?

It seems to be different things happening at the same time, just by
coincidence. I hope john.rogers9's dumbo ISP has got swamped by
complaints from list members, maybe they'll get their asses in gear.
Our Yahoo subscriptions are a mystery, but I think that's some third
party with odd ideas rather than Yahoo being silly.

Anyway, I contacted the Elseviers people at Singapore re the Lyris
list, and they promise to take action, traced it to China so far.
They'll let me know the result. They apologise for the inconvenience.
They do seem genuinely concerned. If it persists, here is the address
again:
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mention the Biofuel list.

Sorry about all this people.

Regards

Keith

 Motie


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Re: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Appal Energy

Thank you Keith,

We were just starting to get the same over quota message
repeatedly for a second ...ntlworld.com address.

Todd

- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 12:24 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?


 Dear all

 The problem some or most or all of us been having with unwanted
 subscriptions to a Lyris list should now be solved. That's this
one:

 Lyris ListManager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The people who run this list, Elsevier Science (Singapore) Pte
Ltd,
 have been very cooperative, but they can't find the problem so
 they've closed down that list until they do find it.

 Unlike ntlworld.com, who keep sending us messages each time we
post
 that [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s mailbox is full. Each time I
get
 one of those they automatically get an abuse complaint in
return,
 which they auto-respond to, which gets them another abuse
complaint,
 but they take no notice, obviously they're not going to pull
their
 fingers out (or maybe it's their heads).

 I discovered that, though [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a
member
 here, he's registered under another name, so I unsubscribed
him, but
 the nuisance continues. We also have two other ntlworld.com
members,
 so I'm unsubscribing them too, and notifying them of course. I
hope
 this will fix the problem, and that those members will try to
do
 something about their ISP, at least if they want to rejoin.
Meanwhile
 no further members from that ISP will be accepted.

 I'm really sorry about all this, I hope things will soon return
to
 normal (whatever that may be).

 Please let me know if you're having any other such problems.

 Thanks for your patience.

 Regards

 Keith
 Moderator, as such



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Re: [biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-25 Thread Harmon Seaver

On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 11:09:48AM -0500, Harmon Seaver wrote:
The best address to send complaints to is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which whois
 lists as the administrative contact for ntlworld.com), also I've found that
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] workds and neither give an autoreply. 

   Hmm, did later get an auto-reply from [EMAIL PROTECTED], but it took so 
long I
wonder if it wasn't really auto. Still no reply from hostmaster however, and
I've emailed him twice in the last couple of days.

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[biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-22 Thread motie_d

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this:
 
  The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 john.rogers9 is not a member of this list, by the way. I don't know 
 what to do about it.
 
 Another oddity - both Midori and I have been getting strange 
messages 
 from Yahoo about list subscriptions. Midori has received a 
 notification asking her to confirm her subscription to the 
Biodiesel 
 group, and another one to the vegoil-diesel group, though she had 
 definitely not subscribed to either. I've received three rejection 
 notices from Yahoo saying that my attempt to subscribe to the 
 Biodiesel group has been rejected because I'm already a member; I 
 definitely did not attempt to subscribe. Is this happening to 
anyone 
 else? Is this Yahoo or some smartass? Any ideas? Seems very weird 
to 
 me.
 
 Thanks
 
 Keith

I just got a post returned for overquota to the address you 
mentioned. I also got the same emails to confirm my subscriptions.
 I am speculating that it is a residual portion of the Virus that has 
been around, using our Email addresses as From and mailing to other 
Email addresses it picks up. The Yahoo mailer may be picking these up 
as requests for subscription?

Motie


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[biofuel] Re: Glitches?

2002-05-22 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Motie

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all
 
  Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this:
 
   The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  john.rogers9 is not a member of this list, by the way. I don't know
  what to do about it.
 
  Another oddity - both Midori and I have been getting strange
messages
  from Yahoo about list subscriptions. Midori has received a
  notification asking her to confirm her subscription to the
Biodiesel
  group, and another one to the vegoil-diesel group, though she had
  definitely not subscribed to either. I've received three rejection
  notices from Yahoo saying that my attempt to subscribe to the
  Biodiesel group has been rejected because I'm already a member; I
  definitely did not attempt to subscribe. Is this happening to
anyone
  else? Is this Yahoo or some smartass? Any ideas? Seems very weird
to
  me.
 
  Thanks
 
  Keith

I just got a post returned for overquota to the address you
mentioned. I also got the same emails to confirm my subscriptions.

Was that this one that Todd mentioned, which I'm also getting?
Lyris ListManager [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Or the Yahoo groups Midori and I are getting?

 I am speculating that it is a residual portion of the Virus that has
been around, using our Email addresses as From and mailing to other
Email addresses it picks up. The Yahoo mailer may be picking these up
as requests for subscription?

It seems to be different things happening at the same time, just by 
coincidence. I hope john.rogers9's dumbo ISP has got swamped by 
complaints from list members, maybe they'll get their asses in gear. 
Our Yahoo subscriptions are a mystery, but I think that's some third 
party with odd ideas rather than Yahoo being silly.

Anyway, I contacted the Elseviers people at Singapore re the Lyris 
list, and they promise to take action, traced it to China so far. 
They'll let me know the result. They apologise for the inconvenience. 
They do seem genuinely concerned. If it persists, here is the address 
again:
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mention the Biofuel list.

Sorry about all this people.

Regards

Keith

Motie


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