Dear all

The problem some or most or all of us been having with unwanted 
subscriptions to a Lyris list should now be solved. That's this one:

"Lyris ListManager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The people who run this list, Elsevier Science (Singapore) Pte Ltd, 
have been very cooperative, but they can't find the problem so 
they've closed down that list until they do find it.

Unlike ntlworld.com, who keep sending us messages each time we post 
that <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s mailbox is full. Each time I get 
one of those they automatically get an abuse complaint in return, 
which they auto-respond to, which gets them another abuse complaint, 
but they take no notice, obviously they're not going to pull their 
fingers out (or maybe it's their heads).

I discovered that, though [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a member 
here, he's registered under another name, so I unsubscribed him, but 
the nuisance continues. We also have two other ntlworld.com members, 
so I'm unsubscribing them too, and notifying them of course. I hope 
this will fix the problem, and that those members will try to do 
something about their ISP, at least if they want to rejoin. Meanwhile 
no further members from that ISP will be accepted.

I'm really sorry about all this, I hope things will soon return to 
normal (whatever that may be).

Please let me know if you're having any other such problems.

Thanks for your patience.

Regards

Keith
Moderator, as such



>Hi Motie
>
> >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Is anyone else getting posts returned because of this:
> > >
> > > > The user(s) account is temporarily over quota.
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > john.rogers9 is not a member of this list, by the way. I don't know
> > > what to do about it.
> > >
> > > Another oddity - both Midori and I have been getting strange
> >messages
> > > from Yahoo about list subscriptions. Midori has received a
> > > notification asking her to confirm her subscription to the
> >Biodiesel
> > > group, and another one to the vegoil-diesel group, though she had
> > > definitely not subscribed to either. I've received three rejection
> > > notices from Yahoo saying that my attempt to subscribe to the
> > > Biodiesel group has been rejected because I'm already a member; I
> > > definitely did not attempt to subscribe. Is this happening to
> >anyone
> > > else? Is this Yahoo or some smartass? Any ideas? Seems very weird
> >to
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Keith
> >
> >I just got a post returned for overquota to the address you
> >mentioned. I also got the same emails to confirm my subscriptions.
>
>Was that this one that Todd mentioned, which I'm also getting?
>"Lyris ListManager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Or the Yahoo groups Midori and I are getting?
>
> > I am speculating that it is a residual portion of the Virus that has
> >been around, using our Email addresses as "From" and mailing to other
> >Email addresses it picks up. The Yahoo mailer may be picking these up
> >as requests for subscription?
>
>It seems to be different things happening at the same time, just by
>coincidence. I hope john.rogers9's dumbo ISP has got swamped by
>complaints from list members, maybe they'll get their asses in gear.
>Our Yahoo subscriptions are a mystery, but I think that's some third
>party with odd ideas rather than Yahoo being silly.
>
>Anyway, I contacted the Elseviers people at Singapore re the Lyris
>list, and they promise to take action, traced it to China so far.
>They'll let me know the result. They apologise for the inconvenience.
>They do seem genuinely concerned. If it persists, here is the address
>again:
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Mention the Biofuel list.
>
>Sorry about all this people.
>
>Regards
>
>Keith
>
> >Motie


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