Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
There is plenty of information about biofuel here, and plenty of people with a vast collective knowledge of the subject. You've asked a couple of questions in the past and got good straight answers to them, didn't you? You also threatened to leave the group because there was something of a flame war over religion, which the moderator (me) didn't put a stop to (and didn't take much part in either). In fact it wasn't particularly off-topic, IIRC it was sparked by oil imports from the Middle East and inflamed views following Sept 11. I enjoy some discussion, but others once I get the jist of the thread, I just delete using the subject heading. Believe me, tho, single topic forums get V boring. A bit of banter, and some way OT discussion always keeps people thinking. ( we have a very broad (minded?) readership. regards Doug PS I am just about to get into the 2 stage process. We have used base ester. but I think the better quality returns are worth persuing. Our plant is made from recycled stainless hot water tanks. (Will post pictures etc once it is running properly) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
Good day, I havent been a member of this group for long but have noticed that some people cannot resist writing about everything even if they have nothing worth writing about. I'n my opinion the Group would be much more Green as regards bandwith on the internet it these people think twice, is that message realy necessary How are you accessing this group? My experience is that one worries about such trivial matters as bandwidth a lot less if one accesses this group via an email client rather than by going through the messages on the web. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
I now beleive this group should be split into Biofuel and another group called anything goes. Lets have a hands on group on Biofuel if that is what the group is about or change its name to something else. I ment nothing personal beleive me. al While I may disagree with your idea, I fortunately didn't take it personally. In fact, I also have been in groups before where it was frustrating to have to wade through the stuff to get to the real stuff that I wanted to read. I am not sure if you saw my posts inquiring as to how you access this group, so I just wanted to follow up on that a little, because I think that can improve your experience of things, and because you're a new member, so we haven't had a chance to really show you yet that we have a lot of productive conversation and we value your input. The gist of what I had to say is that the problem of having to wade through irrelevant mush is largely alleviated if you have an email client that can receive the individual group messages (I always specify in non-html format which holds the size down if nothing else), which can filter them to the right folder and then put them in threads. If wanted or needed, I could also ignore individual posters though for this group I haven't had to do that with any sort of firm rule. I believe that the tendency to branch off into trying to make connections to seemingly unrelated areas is one of the most valuable premises of this or many other of the more-robust discussion areas. That said, I agree with you that there is no point to trying to access a group where you can't get readily to the posts you want to read. Another huge advantage of using an email client (not the web or a web-based email) for group participation is that all your work on your posts is saved. I use agent.99 for email, though it's a bit pricey. I don't like Outlook *at all* (as a security hazard), and haven't tried the other cheapies. I look forward to reading your various future comments, and getting an idea of where you're coming from on various biofuel related matters, and even on other matters. Thanks for reading. cc: to private email just in case the respondent is having difficulty accessing in an organized way, as seems to be sort of the topic. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
Good day, I havent been a member of this group for long but have noticed that some people cannot resist writing about everything even if they have nothing worth writing about. I'n my opinion the Group would be much more Green as regards bandwith on the internet it these people think twice, is that message realy necessary I awate your hail of abuse, but beleive me you cannot come near to the abouse I've had in my time because I'm an individualist and can think for myself. Keep it shout eh. al Why would you expect a hail of abuse? It does happen here, but not because someone's simply stated an opinion. Or would you see a questioning and maybe disagreement as a hail of abuse? Most people here are individualists who think for themselves, or they wouldn't be interested in this subject. That being the case, you should expect a wide variety and divergence of views, and of subject matter. Anyway, nobody's forcing you to read anything. As for bandwidth, this group's use of bandwidth is very minor, it's a medium-volume group with a minimum of idle chat. lot of broad-ranging discussion, but it's usually rather focused, and you might not be interested in it but that doesn't make it idle chat. Here comes the disagreement bit: it's your opinion that some posters have nothing worth writing about and that their messages aren't necessary, but do you really think they also see it that way? You're very unspecific - why don't you come out and say exactly what you think is not worth writing about? You've responded to this thread, Trends as I see it - are you saying that it's not worth writing about? If so, what are your reasons? Who are your some people? What messages like this usually boil down to in the end is something like this: Let's drop all this off-topic crap and talk about what THE GREAT ME wants to to talk about. Which gets short shrift - there aren't many rules here, but No Topic Cops is one of them. So, was your message really necessary? Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/it_ffB/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
Hi Ref my message of yesterday, I see some people took it personally, it was never ment to be. Maybe I should have writen it in a different manner. I joined a group called Biofuel with the intention of getting some knowledge of the subject as it sounded so exciting. I now beleive this group should be split into Biofuel and another group called anything goes. Lets have a hands on group on Biofuel if that is what the group is about or change its name to something else. I ment nothing personal beleive me. al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/09Lw8C/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
al wrote: Hi Ref my message of yesterday, I see some people took it personally, it was never ment to be. Maybe I should have writen it in a different manner. I joined a group called Biofuel with the intention of getting some knowledge of the subject as it sounded so exciting. I now beleive this group should be split into Biofuel and another group called anything goes. Lets have a hands on group on Biofuel if that is what the group is about or change its name to something else. I ment nothing personal beleive me. al If you mean me, I didn't take it personally, but I meant what I said in reply. There is plenty of information about biofuel here, and plenty of people with a vast collective knowledge of the subject. You've asked a couple of questions in the past and got good straight answers to them, didn't you? You also threatened to leave the group because there was something of a flame war over religion, which the moderator (me) didn't put a stop to (and didn't take much part in either). In fact it wasn't particularly off-topic, IIRC it was sparked by oil imports from the Middle East and inflamed views following Sept 11. So, along with what you're now saying about Biofuel (what interests you) and Anything goes (everything else), you do indeed want to restrict the discussions. This happens every couple of months, there's been lots of discussion about it, which amounts to this: apparently most people here see biofuels in a wider context than simply How do I make it, use it, etc., and appreciate the wide-ranging subject-matter. Restricting it would deprive them of this. On the other hand, hands-on How do I make it and so on is certainly discussed, there's a helluva lot of good info in the group archives and at the websites listed at the bottom of each message and at the group site at Yahoo. Not restricting the subject-matter range doesn't deprive the members who're mainly interested in the technical aspects. Anything goes (not really) messages don't restrict or discourage technical discussions in any way. And, nobody's forcing you to read anything. Every message has a subject header, it's a simple matter to follow only the threads that interest you. Bandwidth is a non-issue, IMO. There are people here with slow and/or expensive connections who don't complain - it's not a high-volume list. Did you heed Ryan's advice about following messages by conversation with Outlook, if you use Outlook? Do you use message filters to send messages to specific mailboxes, for example, Biofuel, or does it all arrive in your in-box in a massive clutter? Maybe you should attend to such things before suggesting we should split the group in two. Best Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/09Lw8C/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
Good day, I havent been a member of this group for long but have noticed that some people cannot resist writing about everything even if they have nothing worth writing about. I'n my opinion the Group would be much more Green as regards bandwith on the internet it these people think twice, is that message realy necessary I awate your hail of abuse, but beleive me you cannot come near to the abouse I've had in my time because I'm an individualist and can think for myself. Keep it shout eh. al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/09Lw8C/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
at the risk of yet one more e-mail, if the below is directed at me then i feel that what i am saying/proposing is not a waste at all. our way of life Is the root of this problem, and needs to change. i feel if we could agree on a lifestyle, the what and the how, that is managable on all levels for ALL people, then we can begin to make progress, if not then forget it, we won't last... - Original Message - From: al [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it. Good day, I havent been a member of this group for long but have noticed that some people cannot resist writing about everything even if they have nothing worth writing about. I'n my opinion the Group would be much more Green as regards bandwith on the internet it these people think twice, is that message realy necessary I awate your hail of abuse, but beleive me you cannot come near to the abouse I've had in my time because I'm an individualist and can think for myself. Keep it shout eh. al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/09Lw8C/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Trends as I see it.
Hi Al, Sorry if I am also contributing to what you consider a waste of bandwidth, have you tried not reading on? If you're using outlook to manage your email, try sorting by conversation. That way, if one doesn't appeal to your taste you can simply ignore the thread. Just a suggestion. ;) Ryan P.S. That's View Current View By Conversation in Outlook -Original Message- From: al [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 2:50 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Trends as I see it. Good day, I havent been a member of this group for long but have noticed that some people cannot resist writing about everything even if they have nothing worth writing about. I'n my opinion the Group would be much more Green as regards bandwith on the internet it these people think twice, is that message realy necessary I awate your hail of abuse, but beleive me you cannot come near to the abouse I've had in my time because I'm an individualist and can think for myself. Keep it shout eh. al [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/it_ffB/R_ZEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
