Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
I buy it for my 'Big Bang Cannon', on the web. Check it out at http://www.bigbangcannons.com, it is the Bangsite they sell. Greg H. - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 21:41 Subject: RE: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? That stuff is scarce as hen's teeth around here. Where are you buying it? Kirk -Original Message- From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:23 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? What about Calicum Carbide? Granted, you would have to deal with the acteline gas given off as well as filtering, but it might work. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:20 Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? You can use quicklime for drying ethanol, members of the group have done that successfully. The trouble is that quicklime is hard to find these days. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
$8.50 for a tube. Mucho dinero. I bought a can of it at a prospector's supply in Billings. I think it was $15. Maybe a supplier for cavers would have it but a lot of people are going to LED lights instead of carbide lamps. Kirk -Original Message- From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:23 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? I buy it for my 'Big Bang Cannon', on the web. Check it out at http://www.bigbangcannons.com, it is the Bangsite they sell. Greg H. - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 21:41 Subject: RE: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? That stuff is scarce as hen's teeth around here. Where are you buying it? Kirk -Original Message- From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:23 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? What about Calicum Carbide? Granted, you would have to deal with the acteline gas given off as well as filtering, but it might work. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:20 Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? You can use quicklime for drying ethanol, members of the group have done that successfully. The trouble is that quicklime is hard to find these days. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
Calcium oxide is CaO, it will hydrate and the reaction is strongly exothermic. In sailing ship days barrels of quicklime or CaO have been known to start fires with the heat of hydration. You can make your own picnic heaters or MRE heaters with CaO. If you let the hydrated CaO sit exposed to the air it will absorb CO2 and become CaCO3 (limestone) if you heat this above 1200 degrees the CO2 is driven off and you have CaO again. CaCO3 can be reacted with HCl (muriatic or hydrochloric acid) CO2 and H are released. The resultant calcium chloride is hygroscopic and can be regenerated by heating. Hope this helps Kirk -Original Message- From: agroefekta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:57 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
Something in the corner of MY mind, where my little bit of chem-knoledge resides, tells me that CaO is not the best stuff to dry esters. Yes: CaO and HCl will produce water and CaCl2, but in a hydrated form. Probably you could dehydrate the salt (after filtering and evaporating water), by calcination, but this is an area I don«t know much of, and at high temperatures (I«m talking of a closed crucible over direct fire) I don«t know if the substance would decompose in some way. Someone mentioned to me the other day (I think I recall having mntioned this on a post some days ago) that CaCl could interfere with traces of methanol surely present in the BD. I«m still working on the water issue, as I«ve personally got some problems here, with water contents of up to 2000 ppm (0,2 % vol) in my BD. A simple solution seems to be to filter through very dry filter paper. Dry paper should absorb water quite well (in my case, it worked well with emulsified water in the final washing stage, removing the water content that impeded the BD from being totally tranparent). It could work for dissolved water too. Regards, Christian. - Original Message - From: Gobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? - Original Message - From: agroefekta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:56 PM Subject: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? agroefekta, Calcium chloride for chemical drying is usually used in the form of fused pellets. Could take quite a bit of energy to get it to that state. CaO is a very good drying agent, It could be used by itself to dry alcohols but the reaction might be a bit vigorous, would suggest try it in small ammounts with caution. Something in the back of my mind where my limited chemical knowledge resides tells me that it may not be such a good idea from the safety point of view. Regards, Paul Gobert. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 5/06/02 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? You can use quicklime for drying ethanol, members of the group have done that successfully. The trouble is that quicklime is hard to find these days. See: The Manual for the Home and Farm Production of Alcohol Fuel, by S.W. Mathewson, Chapter 12 DRYING THE ALCOHOL - Drying With Lime: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_manual/manual12.html Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
- Original Message - From: agroefekta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:56 PM Subject: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? agroefekta, Calcium chloride for chemical drying is usually used in the form of fused pellets. Could take quite a bit of energy to get it to that state. CaO is a very good drying agent, It could be used by itself to dry alcohols but the reaction might be a bit vigorous, would suggest try it in small ammounts with caution. Something in the back of my mind where my limited chemical knowledge resides tells me that it may not be such a good idea from the safety point of view. Regards, Paul Gobert. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 5/06/02 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
If you live near a waste processing plant or a power plant or know someone who works there. You can get it for free i guess. Spent waste acids are neutralized with CaO thus forming CaCl2. Purity is not assured though so better check. They usually pay people to get rid of the stuff. Ken At 09:56 AM 6/13/02 +, you wrote: I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
Another question to the group. It says in the Chemical Dictionary that CaCl2 is soluble in water and alcohol. If its soluble in both, wouldn't that contaminate the alcohol. For example drying alcohol to 200% proof. With an azeotropic point of 95%, to get rid of the 5% water, adding CaCL2 could do the job but some of it could get dissolved in the pure alcohol. Is this assumtion right? Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge Ken At 01:33 PM 6/13/02 -0300, you wrote: Something in the corner of MY mind, where my little bit of chem-knoledge resides, tells me that CaO is not the best stuff to dry esters. Yes: CaO and HCl will produce water and CaCl2, but in a hydrated form. Probably you could dehydrate the salt (after filtering and evaporating water), by calcination, but this is an area I don«t know much of, and at high temperatures (I«m talking of a closed crucible over direct fire) I don«t know if the substance would decompose in some way. Someone mentioned to me the other day (I think I recall having mntioned this on a post some days ago) that CaCl could interfere with traces of methanol surely present in the BD. I«m still working on the water issue, as I«ve personally got some problems here, with water contents of up to 2000 ppm (0,2 % vol) in my BD. A simple solution seems to be to filter through very dry filter paper. Dry paper should absorb water quite well (in my case, it worked well with emulsified water in the final washing stage, removing the water content that impeded the BD from being totally tranparent). It could work for dissolved water too. Regards, Christian. - Original Message - From: Gobert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? - Original Message - From: agroefekta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:56 PM Subject: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? agroefekta, Calcium chloride for chemical drying is usually used in the form of fused pellets. Could take quite a bit of energy to get it to that state. CaO is a very good drying agent, It could be used by itself to dry alcohols but the reaction might be a bit vigorous, would suggest try it in small ammounts with caution. Something in the back of my mind where my limited chemical knowledge resides tells me that it may not be such a good idea from the safety point of view. Regards, Paul Gobert. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 5/06/02 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ___ ___ mensaje enviado desde http://www.iespana.es emails (pop)-paginas web (espacio ilimitado)-agenda-favoritos (bookmarks)-foros -Chat Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
What about Calicum Carbide? Granted, you would have to deal with the acteline gas given off as well as filtering, but it might work. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:20 Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? You can use quicklime for drying ethanol, members of the group have done that successfully. The trouble is that quicklime is hard to find these days. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
That stuff is scarce as hen's teeth around here. Where are you buying it? Kirk -Original Message- From: Greg and April [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:23 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? What about Calicum Carbide? Granted, you would have to deal with the acteline gas given off as well as filtering, but it might work. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 11:20 Subject: Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? You can use quicklime for drying ethanol, members of the group have done that successfully. The trouble is that quicklime is hard to find these days. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride?
- Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] How to make calcium chloride? Calcium oxide is CaO, it will hydrate and the reaction is strongly exothermic. In sailing ship days barrels of quicklime or CaO have been known to start fires with the heat of hydration. You can make your own picnic heaters or MRE heaters with CaO. If you let the hydrated CaO sit exposed to the air it will absorb CO2 and become CaCO3 (limestone) if you heat this above 1200 degrees the CO2 is driven off and you have CaO again. Worked for a company at one time which made bricks to line the Basic Oxygen furnaces at a local steel works. They calcined dolomite, crushed it up, graded it then mixed it with pitch and compacted it using massive presses into bricks of 45lb each. At one stage they decided to road freight the calcined dolomite to another plant. An open tray truck was used. The journey was quite lengthy and it rained on the way. One truck load eventually became two. Regards Paul Gobert. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 5/06/02 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
