Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
And I answered all of your questions and would like to know if you are blowing smoke about the function of the beads or do you actually have any information on them. Andy On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:55:18 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting for answers Andy :-) I hope you're not holding your breath... From previous... I'll put it in quotes for you rather than the long-standing worldwide standard of 's for previous messages, since you're still -challenged: On the other hand, you didn't answer mine, why should I answer yours? Especially as I've already done so, though you can't see it. I told you to keep looking, but it's apparent you can't see for looking anyway... Go see for yourself. It's all right there, right in front of your eyes, but you see it as useless. That's your problem. I'll leave you to play with your beads. Also: If you want to leap to the conclusion that all that means is that I can't answer, go right ahead. Keith On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:15:21 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, I am using gmail and still trying to figure it out. When I get messages quoted text is hidden so if someone else doesn't snip I can't see that. So you DO only go one level deep. It would appear that there must have been 12 other times that the discussion was not snipped which lead up to this point. I would suggest that all individuals who were not snipping be more careful. Eight of them were yours, including the previous two. Before that, I left them in for your benefit as you kept losing the context - your confusion over pronouns, for but one example. The first message I can find from you with your new gmail address was on 5 Sep 2004. More than five months now and you still haven't figured out how to see previous messages? Keith Andy On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:05:57 -0500, Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Your message consisted of a single '?' character, and the entire reply (up to 12 replies deep) is 23KB. This means your signal to noise ratio was 1/23000, or about .004% useful information. -- Martin K Andrew Cunningham wrote: ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Your message consisted of a single '?' character, and the entire reply (up to 12 replies deep) is 23KB. This means your signal to noise ratio was 1/23000, or about .004% useful information. -- Martin K Andrew Cunningham wrote: ? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Martin, I am using gmail and still trying to figure it out. When I get messages quoted text is hidden so if someone else doesn't snip I can't see that. It would appear that there must have been 12 other times that the discussion was not snipped which lead up to this point. I would suggest that all individuals who were not snipping be more careful. Andy On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:05:57 -0500, Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Your message consisted of a single '?' character, and the entire reply (up to 12 replies deep) is 23KB. This means your signal to noise ratio was 1/23000, or about .004% useful information. -- Martin K Andrew Cunningham wrote: ? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
I am using gmail and still trying to figure it out. When I get messages quoted text is hidden so if someone else doesn't snip I can't see that. So you DO only go one level deep. It would appear that there must have been 12 other times that the discussion was not snipped which lead up to this point. I would suggest that all individuals who were not snipping be more careful. Eight of them were yours, including the previous two. Before that, I left them in for your benefit as you kept losing the context - your confusion over pronouns, for but one example. The first message I can find from you with your new gmail address was on 5 Sep 2004. More than five months now and you still haven't figured out how to see previous messages? Keith Andy On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:05:57 -0500, Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Your message consisted of a single '?' character, and the entire reply (up to 12 replies deep) is 23KB. This means your signal to noise ratio was 1/23000, or about .004% useful information. -- Martin K Andrew Cunningham wrote: ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
I am still waiting for answers Andy On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:15:21 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, I am using gmail and still trying to figure it out. When I get messages quoted text is hidden so if someone else doesn't snip I can't see that. So you DO only go one level deep. It would appear that there must have been 12 other times that the discussion was not snipped which lead up to this point. I would suggest that all individuals who were not snipping be more careful. Eight of them were yours, including the previous two. Before that, I left them in for your benefit as you kept losing the context - your confusion over pronouns, for but one example. The first message I can find from you with your new gmail address was on 5 Sep 2004. More than five months now and you still haven't figured out how to see previous messages? Keith Andy On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:05:57 -0500, Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Your message consisted of a single '?' character, and the entire reply (up to 12 replies deep) is 23KB. This means your signal to noise ratio was 1/23000, or about .004% useful information. -- Martin K Andrew Cunningham wrote: ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Andy :-) I hope you're not holding your breath... From previous... I'll put it in quotes for you rather than the long-standing worldwide standard of 's for previous messages, since you're still -challenged: On the other hand, you didn't answer mine, why should I answer yours? Especially as I've already done so, though you can't see it. I told you to keep looking, but it's apparent you can't see for looking anyway... Go see for yourself. It's all right there, right in front of your eyes, but you see it as useless. That's your problem. I'll leave you to play with your beads. Also: If you want to leap to the conclusion that all that means is that I can't answer, go right ahead. Keith On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 02:15:21 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, I am using gmail and still trying to figure it out. When I get messages quoted text is hidden so if someone else doesn't snip I can't see that. So you DO only go one level deep. It would appear that there must have been 12 other times that the discussion was not snipped which lead up to this point. I would suggest that all individuals who were not snipping be more careful. Eight of them were yours, including the previous two. Before that, I left them in for your benefit as you kept losing the context - your confusion over pronouns, for but one example. The first message I can find from you with your new gmail address was on 5 Sep 2004. More than five months now and you still haven't figured out how to see previous messages? Keith Andy On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 02:05:57 -0500, Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Your message consisted of a single '?' character, and the entire reply (up to 12 replies deep) is 23KB. This means your signal to noise ratio was 1/23000, or about .004% useful information. -- Martin K Andrew Cunningham wrote: ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Stephan, No such thing as butting in around here. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA - Original Message - From: stephan torak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads forgive me for buttiing in, I hope it is not against the ettiquette. It's just that I'm so appalled at the gullability of our fellow Americans. The oilguys are on top (Bush, Cheney etc) and the oil price has doubled DUH . One look at the stockmarket and who is in the green? the oil companies with soaring profits. (not to speak of loss of life and lying about well what haven't they lied about? And now its Social Security, I wonder who is going to be the winner in that scenario ..the taxpayers, us?? Paleeese. Sorry guys, I had to get this off my chest! snip ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
. Do yourself a favor and try to find some other oil sources. The stuff you have is the worst type to work with!!! Regards Bob Green We will try some different oil when we get a chance. I guess my biggest gripe is that the ad states that the product does things that it obviously doesn't do such as: Decontaminates ALL types of vegetable oils up to 97% clean. Removes all types of water bonded molecules from oils and fats. Turns mucky and milky waste oil emulsions into clear (non-opaque) burnable fuels. and on and on for like 20 pages (I just printed it out) At the end of our experiment we had the oil (that was extremely diluted with regular diesel and warmed up in a hot water heater) that looked pretty clear go into the beads. What came out was totally opaque (the pumps were on the slowest setting).I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry) but I do know enough to say that in my opinion this product does not work in the manner that is advestised (and I think I was probably one whom the ad was targeted to; mechanically inclined but not so chemically aware?). Anyway, next time we change our oil in the truck we'll see how the beads handle the black oil and I will let you all know.unless anyone in in the market for some slightly used Acusorb Beads??? :) (I also have a bridge for sale) :) Until then feel free to spam away :) Meredith So unless I missed something (if I did please provide the link) there is no evidence that the beads work or don't work in any capacity. I agree that the site is overstated, but I see no evidence that the claims are completely unfounded. Andy P.S. Does anyone have Meredith's email address? If I could ask a few questions on what was done, perhaps I could determine what happened. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:00:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andy, Paul Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
or don't work in any capacity. I agree that the site is overstated, but I see no evidence that the claims are completely unfounded. Andy P.S. Does anyone have Meredith's email address? If I could ask a few questions on what was done, perhaps I could determine what happened. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:00:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andy, Paul Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
??? :) (I also have a bridge for sale) :) Until then feel free to spam away :) Meredith So unless I missed something (if I did please provide the link) there is no evidence that the beads work or don't work in any capacity. I agree that the site is overstated, but I see no evidence that the claims are completely unfounded. Andy P.S. Does anyone have Meredith's email address? If I could ask a few questions on what was done, perhaps I could determine what happened. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:00:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andy, Paul Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
to; mechanically inclined but not so chemically aware?). Anyway, next time we change our oil in the truck we'll see how the beads handle the black oil and I will let you all know.unless anyone in in the market for some slightly used Acusorb Beads??? :) (I also have a bridge for sale) :) Until then feel free to spam away :) Meredith So unless I missed something (if I did please provide the link) there is no evidence that the beads work or don't work in any capacity. I agree that the site is overstated, but I see no evidence that the claims are completely unfounded. Andy P.S. Does anyone have Meredith's email address? If I could ask a few questions on what was done, perhaps I could determine what happened. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:00:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andy, Paul Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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my biggest gripe is that the ad states that the product does things that it obviously doesn't do such as: Decontaminates ALL types of vegetable oils up to 97% clean. Removes all types of water bonded molecules from oils and fats. Turns mucky and milky waste oil emulsions into clear (non-opaque) burnable fuels. and on and on for like 20 pages (I just printed it out) At the end of our experiment we had the oil (that was extremely diluted with regular diesel and warmed up in a hot water heater) that looked pretty clear go into the beads. What came out was totally opaque (the pumps were on the slowest setting).I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry) but I do know enough to say that in my opinion this product does not work in the manner that is advestised (and I think I was probably one whom the ad was targeted to; mechanically inclined but not so chemically aware?). Anyway, next time we change our oil in the truck we'll see how the beads handle the black oil and I will let you all know.unless anyone in in the market for some slightly used Acusorb Beads??? :) (I also have a bridge for sale) :) Until then feel free to spam away :) Meredith So unless I missed something (if I did please provide the link) there is no evidence that the beads work or don't work in any capacity. I agree that the site is overstated, but I see no evidence that the claims are completely unfounded. Andy P.S. Does anyone have Meredith's email address? If I could ask a few questions on what was done, perhaps I could determine what happened. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:00:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andy, Paul Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated
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type of oil to recycle. Sound like mcdonalds grease. some oils are so badly hydrogenated they never get clear. The best you can do is ad 50% diesel and get them thin enough to flow properly. Try getting some good used soy from a Chinese restaurant or a fish and chips place. Those types of oils are easier to work with than the hydrogenated stuff you have. Margarine starts out as a clear thin oil (corn oil) and THEN they Hydrogenate it until it gets thick and cloudy and presto you have margarine. Some restaurants only use hydrogenated oils and it best to stay away from those types of oils. If you have use this stuff you have you will have to use a 50/50 ratio of Diesel to oil. Do yourself a favor and try to find some other oil sources. The stuff you have is the worst type to work with!!! Regards Bob Green We will try some different oil when we get a chance. I guess my biggest gripe is that the ad states that the product does things that it obviously doesn't do such as: Decontaminates ALL types of vegetable oils up to 97% clean. Removes all types of water bonded molecules from oils and fats. Turns mucky and milky waste oil emulsions into clear (non-opaque) burnable fuels. and on and on for like 20 pages (I just printed it out) At the end of our experiment we had the oil (that was extremely diluted with regular diesel and warmed up in a hot water heater) that looked pretty clear go into the beads. What came out was totally opaque (the pumps were on the slowest setting).I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry) but I do know enough to say that in my opinion this product does not work in the manner that is advestised (and I think I was probably one whom the ad was targeted to; mechanically inclined but not so chemically aware?). Anyway, next time we change our oil in the truck we'll see how the beads handle the black oil and I will let you all know.unless anyone in in the market for some slightly used Acusorb Beads??? :) (I also have a bridge for sale) :) Until then feel free to spam away :) Meredith So unless I missed something (if I did please provide the link) there is no evidence that the beads work or don't work in any capacity. I agree that the site is overstated, but I see no evidence that the claims are completely unfounded. Andy P.S. Does anyone have Meredith's email address? If I could ask a few questions on what was done, perhaps I could determine what happened. On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 21:00:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Andy, Paul Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy
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content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. Thank you. Metaldyne LLC ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. Thank you. Metaldyne LLC ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Please read this previous message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/43433/ ... and follow the link there: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37536/ What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Best wishes Keith Paul, If it is as the web site selling them tells it is the key part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
part of the statement. I can't seem to get any good information on them. Most of the information I have is anecdotal at best. If I would beleive any of the works/doesn't work stories - I would also have to beleive that meths and lye don't work to make BioD simply because someone couldn't do it. I would also have to believe that there is no safe way to run WVO in an mercedes 80's diesel and you can dump WVO into any diesel and it will work fine at the same time. I have read anecdotal stories on all of these, but very little facts to go along with them. Andy On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:11:57 -0500, Arbuckle, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some questions about the Acusorb beads. what kind of product do they make. If it is as the web site selling them tells it why use chemicals and other stuff. Is the end product as good a quality as the reaction method? I found three sights selling these products, all at different prices is there more? All were resellers so who really makes this stuff? The web site selling them says they are a good use in the reaction process. would you use filter and beads with WVO before reacting or after to filter and remove water of both? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Clark Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Hello Andy, A freind of mine is puting in a new stove and has promised me his old one. I intend it for regenerating the beads I have. As soon as I can I will grab a hand full and see what happens at 400 F. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: Andrew Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads Hi, Someone recently replied, I did a quick seach and it turned up this description of them: http://www.survivalunlimited.com/biodiesel.htm#techno It probably is a form of silica with the additional salts. If I'm not= mistaken industry refers to this as a molecular sieve. I doubt that these are zeolites, silica compounds, molecular sieves since they have to be regenerated at greater than 350F.. The description states that these beads turn black when heated over that. Could we ask Bill to take one and bake it at 400F and see if it turns black? Please Bill :) Andy ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
