RE: t-and-f: USATF Release: Jones named Athlete of the Week
Omitted from the list below was Radcliffe's first competition of the year in a performance about as strong as anything else in 2002. On Feb 17 at the World's Best 10-K in San Juan on a stinking hot day with high humidity - is there any other kind in Puerto Rico? - Radcliffe ran 30:43 in what was then the second best women's road 10-K in history. -Original Message- From: Bob Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Jones named Athlete of the Week Post, Marty wrote: Radcliffe has put up some big numbers going up and down a range of distances this year. One loss, but in a tremendous time, and, of course, there's still the Chicago Marathon to come. Joe Henderson has a good article on Paula Radcliffe today at http://www.runnersworld.com/home/0,1300,1-0-0-ZNEWS,00.html#bell, making the case for her setting two real world records this year: best non-Chinese mark at 10,000m and best marathon time in a women's only race. I hope Chicago won't be stretching things too far for her, but she was actually pretty conservative in her racing all summer. Except for her 3000m loss to Szabo at Monaco, she avoided the lucrative IAAF track circuit and pointed mainly to the Commonwealth Games and the European Championships. Mar 23IAAF World X-C Long Race1st26:55 Apr 14London Marathon Marathon 1st2:18:56 Jul 19 Monaco Herculis3,000m 2nd 8:22.2 Jul 28 British Commonwealth Games5,000m 1st14:31.42 Aug 6 European Championships 10,000m 1st30:01.09 ER Sept 22Nike London 10K (road) 10,000m 1st30:38 Oct 13 Chicago Marathon Marathon ??? ? bob
Re: t-and-f: Bob Hayes's 8.6 (LONG)
My memory may be faulty but I seem to remember Hayes' split on the relay as being 8.9. Anyone else remember it that way? JT
Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Jones named Athlete of the Week
Post, Marty wrote: On Feb 17 at the World's Best 10-K in San Juan on a stinking hot day with high humidity - is there any other kind in Puerto Rico? - Radcliffe ran 30:43 in what was then the second best women's road 10-K in history. I figured that she had probably run another road competition or two during the year, but couldn't find anything on the Internet. I guess she'll be #1 in the hearts and minds of distance bigots like myself. It's a tough job for the TFN editors, as they're often comparing apples to oranges. I don't think Radcliffe's 3000m loss to Szabo should count against her, as her primary events were 5000m and up. And after Chicago, assuming that she wins in another great time, you could base things on the marathon alone, with her other competitions just being icing on the cake. bob
Re: t-and-f: USATF Release: Jones named Athlete of the Week
Run London 10-K Richmond Park, London, GBR; Sunday, September 22 MEN - 1. Paul Kosgei, KEN 28:23 2. John Cheruiyot Korir, KEN 28:27 3. Luke Kipkosgei, KEN28:38 4. Jon Brown, GBR 28:40 5. Julius Kimtai, KEN 28:47 6. Hendrik Ramaala, RSA 28:50 WOMEN - 1. Paula Radcliffe, GBR 30:38 ER/NR 2. Elana Meyer, RSA 32:40 3. Sonia O'Sullivan, IRL 33:47 4. Charlotte Dale, GBR (Jr.) 34:45 5. Louise Watson, GBR 36:33 6. Sally Budd, GBR38:29 Bob Duncan wrote: Post, Marty wrote: On Feb 17 at the World's Best 10-K in San Juan on a stinking hot day with high humidity - is there any other kind in Puerto Rico? - Radcliffe ran 30:43 in what was then the second best women's road 10-K in history. I figured that she had probably run another road competition or two during the year, but couldn't find anything on the Internet. I guess she'll be #1 in the hearts and minds of distance bigots like myself. It's a tough job for the TFN editors, as they're often comparing apples to oranges. I don't think Radcliffe's 3000m loss to Szabo should count against her, as her primary events were 5000m and up. And after Chicago, assuming that she wins in another great time, you could base things on the marathon alone, with her other competitions just being icing on the cake. bob
Re: t-and-f: Bob Hayes's 8.6 (LONG)
I ran a few running-start simulations with my models (using parameters which give a 9.8 sprinter's splits), and I had a lot of trouble getting an 8.6 split for them, let alone a 10.1 sprinter. I think 8.6 is the stuff [tall tales] of legends ... like Montgomery's 9.96 on a grass track! J.
t-and-f: Chicago Marathon gets deeeper
PRESS RELEASE (from the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon) HISTORIC FIELD GROWS FOR THE LASALLE BANK CHICAGO MARATHON Abdelkhader El Mouaziz, Yoko Shibui and Others Added to World Class Field Chicago (September 30, 2002) The historic field for The 2002 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has grown even deeper with the addition of another sub 2:07 marathoner, Abdelkhader El Mouaziz, to the men's field and a rising Japanese star, Yoko Shibui, to the women's field, Executive Race Director Carey Pinkowski announced today. The much-anticipated 25th Anniversary of LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon takes place October 13. To have both World Record holders Khalid Khannouchi and Catherine Ndereba is an accomplishment; to also have their closest competitors, Paul Tergat and Paula Radcliffe in the same race is unprecedented. Now with the addition of El Mouaziz and Shibui the amount of pure, raw distance running talent and ability put together in one race exceeds any other marathon in the world. Aldelkader El Mouziz has shown through his aggressive racing style that he can not only run with the best in the world, Paul Tergat and Khalid Khannouchi, he can also defeat them, said Pinkowski. His impressive mid-race attacking style that has brought him victories at the New York City and London Marathons will add an interesting element of excitement to this year's LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. We have a strong group of very talented athletes that are looking to break through to the next level. El Mouaziz, a two-time Olympian from Morocco, is one of the world's most accomplished marathoner runners. He is a two-time winner of the London Marathon (1999, 2001) and the winner of the 2000 New York City Marathon. Earlier this year El Mouaziz ran a personal best 2:06:52 in a fourth place finish in London. This will be his first appearance at The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. Shibui, only 23 years old, is the latest star on the Japanese marathon scene. Shibui broke into the world spotlight at the 2001 Osaka International Ladies Marathon recording the second best marathon debut (2:23:11). Earlier this year she set the Japanese national 10,000m record (30:48.89) with her victory at the Cardinal Invitational in Palo Alto, CA. The 2002 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon will be her third marathon. I was there at the 2001 Osaka Ladies International Marathon and extremely impressed as I witnessed Shibui's debut and victory through very challenging conditions and, even more difficult, with absolutely no competition, said Pinkowski. This time Shibui will have some competition and I am confidant she will rise to the challenge and respond well to the other female athletes. Other impressive additions to The 2002 LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon's elite list include Driss El Himer, Ian Syster and Toshinari Takaoka. El Himer's stunning debut was a 2:07:02 victory at the 2001 Amsterdam Marathon. That performance was the second fastest marathon in 2001, a French National Record and the third fastest debut marathon ever. Syster has only been running for two years. He made his marathon debut at the South African National Championships in 2001 and won the race to become the South African National Champion (2:13:30). Syster finished fifth at this year's London Marathon with a breakthrough performance of 2:07:06, a new personal best time by more than six minutes. Takaoka, a two-time Olympian, is the Japanese National record holder at 3000m (7:41.87), 5000m (13:13.40) and 10,000m (27:35.09). He will be running his second marathon and first LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. His marathon debut was at the 2001 Fukuoka Marathon where he finished third in 2:09:41. Additional notable elite women include Masako Chiba, Nuta Olaru and Svetlana Zakharova, Chiba'a first serious marathon was a 2:29:00 effort for fifth place at the 1999 Tokyo Ladies Marathon. She won 2001 Hokkaido Marathon in 2:30:39 and was second in 2002 Rotterdam Marathon in 2:25:11. Olaru is the second fastest woman marathoner in Romanian history. She broke through to world class level with a 2:25:18 personal best at the 2001 London Marathon. As part of her preparation for The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, Olaru ran a strong third place (1:10:49) at the Rock 'N' Roll Half-Marathon, then knocked 53 seconds from her personal best with a 1:08:59 second place finish at the Romanian Half-Marathon Championships in mid-September. Zakharova placed second at the 2002 London Marathon, running the 17th fastest marathon of all-time and set a Russian National record in 2:22:31. In 2001 she ran four major marathons and finished in the top three in each; second in London, third at the World Championships, second in New York City and second in Honolulu. The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon has a reputation as one of the world's fastest courses. Last year Catherine Ndereba set a new World Record of 2:18:47, while Olympian Joan Benoit Samuelson set the still-standing women's American record of 2:21:21
Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)
I wanted to reply to this post a long time ago, but was rather busy last week. Everyone is trying to get their track striped this time of year! The runner really can't nor does he want to extend length of his drive phase. The drive phase continues only as long as the runner continues to accelerate, and the angle that his center of mass makes with the ground depends on his rate of acceleration. If the runner is to remain in balance - the only way he can continue to apply force - the angle that the runner's cm makes with the track for a particular step is given by A = arctan(g/a), where a is the average acceleration during that step and g is the acceleration due to gravity. This neglects air resistance which will require a slight forward lean at maximum speed. Note that the angle with respect to the ground is a minimum at the start, where acceleration is a maximum, and zero at maximum speed (neglecting air resistance) where by definition acceleration in zero. Since the runner will have the best time the earlier he reaches maximum speed, he will have the best time the sooner he becomes erect. An example: I watched the Seoul men's 100 with a sprinter that I coached, taping the race. My athlete commented Look, Ben stood straight up at the start. Why do you always want me to stay lower? We played the tape back and my athlete was right, the drug-aided Ben Johnson did indeed become nearly erect in two steps. However, I pointed out that on his first step he was nearly horizontal with the ground! He was following the relationship given above but his acceleration was so great on his first step, as indicated by his flat angle with the ground, that he was virtually at top speed after two steps and hence was running erect from that point. Dan Kaplan wrote: --- Jonas Mureika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said my figures are absolute. If you read any of my papers, you'd see that I am willing to admit limitations. Fair enough. Since we're discussing pulling figures out of the air, I would be interested in hearing how the effects you propose will account for 40% of the race. Easy. Athletes typically train for a drive phase of around 30m, and with different resistance training techniques could push that anywhere from 20-40m, which means a lower cross sectional wind resistance can be obtained for up to 40% of the race (100m). If you do harness resistance work, you quickly see that you can hold perfect driving form for as long as your energy holds up and there is enough resisting you. That's what I keep hearing when people say Wind affects different people differently, as if they can train to overcome drag forces. I don't think you can train to overcome wind effects, other than mental training to not be thrown off by it and to maintain maximum effort. Maybe a little bit in terms of increasing leg strength for better balance to handle cross winds and what not... But I know of no one has put on a speed suit or body suit for a race and not felt it made them faster. Dan -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarxô 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: Bob Hayes's 8.6 (LONG)
I have seen that film and Don did a great job in his coverage of Abele Bikila's marathon run. The movie gives background on youth and the courage he showed in running that marathon, barefoot and the courage he exhibited in finishing. Woody
Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)
Another post that I wanted to comment on but didn't have the time. A common misconception is that a tail wind pushes a runner along. This of course is true only where the aiding wind is so great it is greater than the runners velocity with respect to the ground. Even with a tail wind a runner experiences a retarding force. This force is proportional to the square of the runner's velocity with respect to the air and his cross sectional area. Thus, Gerald, being larger than most runners, actually experienced a greater retarding force than smaller athletes whether the wind was positive or negative. The figure of merit in being able to overcome head winds is the ratio of force generated at a high rate of muscular contraction to cross sectional area. It is likely, however, that Gerald's weight training improved his ability to generate force at a high rate of contraction and gave him an advantage in a head wind over smaller (and weaker) athletes. Gerald Woodward wrote: Dan, This is what I was trying to say in my previous email. I was a tall (6' 3, 206 lb.) sprinter (9.6 sec. 100 yards, 21.3 sec. 220 yards). Because of my height and breadth, I could take more advantage of tailwinds than could some of my shorter and smaller competitors (normally 5' 6 to 5' 10 and 135 to 160 lbs). I also was able to better handle headwinds because of the additional strength that I developed as a football player lifting weights. It was not a matter of training for winds as it was being able to recognize that I needed to make a slight modification in my running style if I had a tailwind versus a headwind and use it to my best advantage. If the athlete has had good coaching and is intelligent, and most are, they can and do use differing conditions to their advantage in any sport. Woody -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give your best effort... Treat others the way you'd like to be treated... - Coach Bill Sudeck (1926-2000)
Re: t-and-f: Anticipating the Gun (was Assertions)
Wayne, Ignoring all the physics (which don't exactly appeal to me and don't really address the question of differing wind conditions), two related pieces stand out as begging comment: Since the runner will have the best time the earlier he reaches maximum speed, he will have the best time the sooner he becomes erect. If all your formulas reach such a conclusion, then I suppose an upright standing start would be ideal? I watched the Seoul men's 100 with a sprinter that I coached, taping the race. My athlete commented Look, Ben stood straight up at the start. Why do you always want me to stay lower? We played the tape back and my athlete was right, the drug-aided Ben Johnson did indeed become nearly erect in two steps. Did you point out to your athlete that no one else in history has ever been able to duplicate Ben's start (that I'm aware of)? Most people would fall flat on their face if they tried setting their blocks like him, too. What worked for Ben would work for very few others, so I'm afraid that isn't a very relevant example. Dan --- Wayne T. Armbrust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wanted to reply to this post a long time ago, but was rather busy last week. Everyone is trying to get their track striped this time of year! The runner really can't nor does he want to extend length of his drive phase. The drive phase continues only as long as the runner continues to accelerate, and the angle that his center of mass makes with the ground depends on his rate of acceleration. If the runner is to remain in balance - the only way he can continue to apply force - the angle that the runner's cm makes with the track for a particular step is given by A = arctan(g/a), where a is the average acceleration during that step and g is the acceleration due to gravity. This neglects air resistance which will require a slight forward lean at maximum speed. Note that the angle with respect to the ground is a minimum at the start, where acceleration is a maximum, and zero at maximum speed (neglecting air resistance) where by definition acceleration in zero. Since the runner will have the best time the earlier he reaches maximum speed, he will have the best time the sooner he becomes erect. An example: I watched the Seoul men's 100 with a sprinter that I coached, taping the race. My athlete commented Look, Ben stood straight up at the start. Why do you always want me to stay lower? We played the tape back and my athlete was right, the drug-aided Ben Johnson did indeed become nearly erect in two steps. However, I pointed out that on his first step he was nearly horizontal with the ground! He was following the relationship given above but his acceleration was so great on his first step, as indicated by his flat angle with the ground, that he was virtually at top speed after two steps and hence was running erect from that point. Dan Kaplan wrote: --- Jonas Mureika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never said my figures are absolute. If you read any of my papers, you'd see that I am willing to admit limitations. Fair enough. Since we're discussing pulling figures out of the air, I would be interested in hearing how the effects you propose will account for 40% of the race. Easy. Athletes typically train for a drive phase of around 30m, and with different resistance training techniques could push that anywhere from 20-40m, which means a lower cross sectional wind resistance can be obtained for up to 40% of the race (100m). If you do harness resistance work, you quickly see that you can hold perfect driving form for as long as your energy holds up and there is enough resisting you. That's what I keep hearing when people say Wind affects different people differently, as if they can train to overcome drag forces. I don't think you can train to overcome wind effects, other than mental training to not be thrown off by it and to maintain maximum effort. Maybe a little bit in terms of increasing leg strength for better balance to handle cross winds and what not... But I know of no one has put on a speed suit or body suit for a race and not felt it made them faster. Dan = http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy TF @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
t-and-f: USATF News Notes: September 30, 2002
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 3, Number 95 September 30, 2002 Browne wins marathon debut at Twin Cities Longtime U.S. distance running standout Dan Browne picked Sundays USA Mens Marathon Championship, the Twin Cities Marathon, for his debut at that distance. It was an inspired choice. Browne won the 26.2-mile race from Minneapolis to St. Paul, Minn., in 2 hours, 11 minutes, 35 seconds. In winning the 10th national title of his career, Browne also won the 2002 USA Running Circuit mens title ($6,000) and a winners check of $34,000. Brownes time also makes him an A standard qualifier for the 2004 Olympic Games. The overall winner at Twin Cities, Brownes strongest competition came from Kenyan masters athletes Joshua Kipkemboi (2nd-2:11:45) and Jackson Kipngok (3rd-2:11:51). Top finishing Americans included Brad Hauser in his first career marathon (4th-2:14:15), David Morris (5th-2:15:27), Jim Jurcevich (6th-2:16:18), Greg Jimmerson (7th-2:16:27) and Todd Reeser (8th-2:17:12). Eddy Hellebuyck won the U.S. mens masters title with his overall ninth-place finish in 2:19:59. A former sub-4:00 miler and the 2002 U.S. 20K champion, Browne used his speed to break away from the field for the win. The marathon is always something I wanted to do, said Browne. People told me I couldnt do it, I was too much of a miler. They said Dan, youre too much on your toes. My next big goal is to make the U.S. Olympic marathon team. In the womens race, Jill Gaitenby won her first national title and set a personal record by winning the USA Womens Marathon Championship Sunday at Twin Cities in 2:36:10. Gaitenby teamed with Susannah Beck for most of the race, before breaking away from Beck in the final miles for the title and a check of $29,000. Beck was the U.S. runner-up and third overall in 2:36:34. Linda Somers Smith, a 1996 Olympic marathoner, won the USA womens masters title with her fifth-place overall finish of 2:39:26. Irina Bogacheva of Kirghizstan led from start to finish in winning the womens overall title in 2:29:39. Top U.S. womens finishers included Rosa Gutierrez (6th-2:39:40), Kelly Flathers (7th-2:40:55), Katie Blackett (8th-2:45:01), Michelle Simonaitis (9th-2:45:05) and Kelly Keeler (10th-2:45:13). I figured the U.S. Championship was anyones race, said Gaitenby. I wanted to run 2:33 today, but when I saw the humidity I knew I had no chance. I have a vocal chord dysfunction and humidity is the worst thing for me. But Im very happy. Gaitenbys victory puts her in second place in the 2002 USARC womens standings with 30 points. Colleen De Reuck owns the top spot with 49 points. Dunn, Armenta win race walk titles Philip Dunn and Susan Armenta won the mens and womens national titles at the 2002 USA 2-Hour/1-Hour Race Walk Championships Sunday on Long Island, N.Y. Dunn got off to a fast start in the mens 2-hour race, but at the five-kilometer mark a group led by Curt Clausen joined Dunn to form a lead pack. The pack gradually fell away, until it was just Dunn and Clausen. Dunn dropped Clausen for good at 19K and went on to cover 26,815 meters for the win. Clausen was the runner-up with 26,655m, followed by Kevin Eastler (3rd-26,415m), Tim Seaman (4th-24,612m) and Theron Kissinger (5th-24,299m). Susan Armenta won her fourth national title of the year in winning the USA womens 1-hour crown by walking 12,195 meters. Armenta led from start to finish, enjoying more than a half-mile winning margin over runner-up Cheryl Rellinger with 11,236m. Other top finishers were Erin Taylor (3rd-10,611m), Loretta Schuellein (4th-10,584m), Laura Feller (5th-10,572m) and Jennifer Marlborough (6th-9,455m). # # # PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE: If you would like to respond, please direct your e-mail to the Contact person listed at the top of the text of this message. To be removed from this mailing list or to notify us of a change in your e-mail address, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Sept 30 Women's NCAA D-1 Poll Analysis
Analysis of the 2002 NCAA Division I Women's Cross Country Coaches' Poll by Mike Scott, University of Rhode Island Updated: September 30 For the sixth consecutive year, I am analyzing the Women's Division I Coaches' Poll. Teams are listed according to their ranking in the current edition of the FinishLynx/NCAA DIVISION I WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY NATIONAL POLL, as conducted by the Women's Intercollegiate Cross Country Coaches' Association. The complete version of this analysis may be found at: http://miscott.home.att.net/wxcanal Places listed in parentheses refer to finish at the 2001 NCAA D-1 XC Championships at Furman University, unless otherwise noted. Performances are from the 2001-02 year, unless otherwise noted. Performances at the Foot Locker High School Cross Country Championships are denoted by FL. As always, I appreciate additions, corrections, and updates. Please send them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weekend Roundup: What a weekend! This was one of the most competitive opening weekend (of the portion of the season that counts for at large qualifying) in recent memory. What was even more interesting was the number of teams that sat out runners this weekend at a number of meets The weekend kicked off with BYU dominating an outstanding field at the Great American Cross Country Festival in Charlotte, NC. BYU, which sat out at almost as many potential top seven runners as they raced, scored 50 points -- 105 points ahead of runner up Columbia -- yes, you heard me right, Columbia claimed runner-up honors. BYU's margin would have been even greater had B race winner Katie Martin raced in the seeded race -- Martin would have been their 5th runner in 8th place, giving the Cougars a miserly 26 points (yeah, they would have beaten the entire rest of the field COMBINED). Columbia -- which didn't even have a perfect day as All-American Caitlan Hickin could only muster a 28th-place finish -- edged NC State (running without NCAA 10k champ Kristen Price). North Carolina edged Arkansas for 4th, while Georgetown (missing three potential scorers) finished 6th ahead of Virginia and Northern Arizona. Also of note also was Duke's 12th-place finish; the Blue Devils split their team, with 1/2 racing Great American and 1/2 racing Stanford. Both of Duke's squads could be considered A teams under the NCAA's criteria (3 or more runners that race for the team at regionals), thus giving teams at both races -- like Northern Arizona, Colorado State, Virginia, William Mary, James Madison, and maybe even Columbia -- some important wins over a potential auto qualifier. Stanford swept both the long and short course titles at its own Stanford Invite, downing Duke, UCLA, and Wisconsin at 6k and Wisconsin and Purdue at 4k. Michigan State cruised to a comfortable win at the Roy Griak Invitational over surprising Arizona State and Providence. Marquette claimed 4th ahead of Indiana and Toledo, while Weber State finished 7th. At the Iona Meet of Champions, Missouri upset Wake Forest for the win. D-II power Adams State claimed the bronze ahead of Dartmouth and Yale, with Cornell finishing 7th. Weekly Preview: Despite all of last week's action, there are several good meets coming up this weekend. Stanford and Notre Dame face off at the 10/4 Notre Dame Invitational, as well as Indiana, Ball State, Purdue, and Washington. Colorado debuts at it's own 10/5 Rocky Mountain Shootout. Boston College, Arkansas, Michigan, Villanova, and Colorado State travel to Terre Haute for the 10/5 Indiana State Invitational (aka, NCAA Preview #1). Arizona State hosts Northern Arizona. Georgetown and SW Missouri gather at the 10/5 Cowboy Jamboree, while Marquette and Texas AM race at the 10/5 Murray Keating, and Missouri races at the 10/5 Loyola Lakefront Invite. TOP THIRTY TEAMS: 1. Brigham Young Patrick Shane's BYU Cougars have won three NCAA crowns in the last five years (97-99-01). BYU would appear to be in the driver's seat to win it all, returning five of their seven -- a quintet that would have won last year's meet by a large margin. Last year's individual fifth-placer finisher Michaela Manova stepped it up in during track to win the steeple in an NCAA record and should be considered an individual contender, while teammate Jessie Kindschi claimed 7th. Lindsey Thomsen and Nan (nee Evans) Kennard finished 23rd and 36th in 2001. Their fifth returnee, Amy Bair, finished 45th last year -- and the Cougars add a sub-34:00 10k runner in Devra Vierkant, a 34:32 10k performer in Kristen Ogden, a 10:28 steepler in Breanne Sandberg, and the junior national 1500 champ Kassi Anderson. Redshirt frosh Breanne Sandberg, a 10:28 steepler last spring), led the Cougars at the 9/14 BYU Autumn Classic as Coach Shane held out his top five. Great American showed the BYU can run only half their potential top seven and still dominate one of the deepest fields in recent memory.
t-and-f: Is This Really Possible??
From the IAAF webpage on the Berlin marathon: ...(Raymond) Kipkoech, who only got into today's race a week ago, comes from the village of Kapsait, situated at 3000 metres altitude near the Ugandan border, and only began running two years ago, "when I saw my friends Simon Biwott, Eric Kimaiyo, Sammy Korir and Fred Kiprop being successful". Kipkoech runs the 9th fastest time ever, 2:06:47. Is this kind of a time possible after only 2 yrs of running? But even if thats a stretch to believe, how does he get so good almost from nowhere. Whats the scoop on him, anyone know? Bob Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
t-and-f: North Carolina Elite Track Club
Does anyone know how to contact North Carolina Elite Track Club? I am trying to contact one of their athletes. Email me off list please... Thanks, Lo Hill __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com
