Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Steve Bennett schrieb: I posted this question a few weeks ago and got some answers. two programs friends of mine or myself use: - routeconverter (GPL) can display GPS tracks on OSM maps and do some basic editing= www.routeconverter.de - TTQV (commercial, Windows) Best regards, Michael. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Steve Bennett wrote: [...] In short, I need to be able to: - merge multiple traces For this I optimized a small script found on this list (or from talk-de) which appends all tracks invoked with $ scriptname [expression] (e.g. scriptname 2010-01-[12]*gpx - appends all gpx-files from January 10th to 29th 2010) #!/bin/bash gpsbabel -i gpx $(echo $* | sed 's/ /\n/g' | for GPX; do echo -n -f $GPX ; done) -o gpx -F appended.gpx just my 2p, HTH malenki ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Craig Wallace wrote: On 29/01/2010 03:51, Steve Bennett wrote: GPSBabel does have a radius filter, so you include or exclude points within a distance of a location. It seems it only works on waypoints, but you can transform tracks to waypoints, and back again. There's an example on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_filters_with_GPSBabel See also http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-April/036064.html But still there is no (at least I found no) way to reduce/delete point clouds randomly streewn over the track (here I made a picnic, there I enjoyed a tourism=viewpoint) using gpsbabel without reducing the quality of the log painfully. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Steve Bennett wrote: Yeah, that's with the EditGPX plugin. I don't get how it's supposed to work. The traces aren't clickable, and I don't understand what the GPXedit layer is supposed to do (distinct from the layers for the individual traces). Couldn't find any doco either. If you look on the plugins tab under Preferences quite a few plugins including EditGPX have a 'More Details' link. For EditGPX it links to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/EditGpx describing features and usage. It is quite limited, just allowing you to delete sections of your track and anonymize timestamps but I do find it quick and easy to use. Having said that I have only ever used it with one trace at a time. I just tried it with multiple traces and it does seem to get a bit confused. Once you edit one trace you don't seem to be able select another one to edit until you restart JOSM. I'll submit a trac ticket. rcr ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
On 29/01/2010 03:51, Steve Bennett wrote: Ah, so it does. It makes it very easy to merge multiple tracks, split them by day, and simplify. So maybe I'll have to get used to pre-processing like this. Maybe I should request a privacy filter feature that automatically deletes any points within a hundred metres of various locations you specify. GPSBabel does have a radius filter, so you include or exclude points within a distance of a location. It seems it only works on waypoints, but you can transform tracks to waypoints, and back again. There's an example on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_filters_with_GPSBabel Craig ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
I posted this question a few weeks ago and got some answers. I've been using Prune until now, but it's really not satisfactory. I've also tried out a couple of the other tools suggested, and they're pretty bad too. Here's my basic use case: I've just come back from a 4 day bike trip where I collected about 11Mb worth of gpx files, numbered 32.gpx-45.gpx and current.gpx, spanning about 250km (tracing 1 point per second while it was on). I want to merge them into one trace, then upload pieces of these to OSM, and also to some other sites. I want to totally disregard the original boundaries between traces (which I think represent either the GPS being turned off/on, or a trace getting too long). In short, I need to be able to: - merge multiple traces - be able to visually select pieces of a trace to either delete (for privacy/tidiness) or export - simplify a trace down to a much smaller number using some smart algorithm Preferably with an OSM slippy map type background. This sounds like a very small ask to me. I don't need it to directly interface with the GPS, convert formats or anything. Features like converting speeds to colour are nice, as are showing georeferenced photos. Solutions proposed: - Prune: very flakey on large numbers of traces, pretty tedious having to work in terms of ranges, pretty dumb how it sequences traces in the order you load them, not the order of their timestamps. The OSM background usually dies after a few minutes. Can't export ranges (instead you have to delete the rest of the trace). - EasyGPS: lacks the features I need. Fast though! - GPSu(tility): the shareware version is too crippled to evaluate, plus the interface looks pretty bad. - GPSbabel: only does conversion afaik, not editing. - GPSman: after 15+ minutes of going around in circles on the site, I can't even find the file to download. Or a clear statement whether it runs on windows. Plus it looks complicated to get all the right tcl/tk packages. - Viking: didn't work. Maybe my tcl/tk installation is broken. - JOSM: promising, but JOSM is always very slow on my machine, and I can't figure out how to edit gpx traces directly, other than converting them to data layers first. not sure if this will solve all my needs. I do like the colour highlighting though. - Garmin BaseCamp: may actually be able to do some of this, but unusably slow on large amounts of data, and has some really funky ideas about how to manage a collection of tracks. - Garmin MapSource: no editing of traces that I can see. - ExpertGPS: fast, seems to most of what I want (no useful overlays though), but $70 is a lot to spend on a tool that provides lots of features I can't use/don't want, like live GPS tracking So, maybe I'll use ExpertGPS till the evaluation period runs out, still looking for other good solutions though. Have I missed any? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
On 28/01/2010 14:14, Steve Bennett wrote: Some comments on the ones of these I've used: Solutions proposed: - GPSbabel: only does conversion afaik, not editing. GPSBabel does have various options for editing tracks, though they are not all available in the GUI (some of them are, click the Filters button). eg to merge multiple files, just specify them all as inputs. And there is a simplify filter. You can also extract parts of tracks based on time etc. Some more details here: http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.6/Advanced_Usage.html http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.6/filter_track.html - JOSM: promising, but JOSM is always very slow on my machine, and I can't figure out how to edit gpx traces directly, other than converting them to data layers first. not sure if this will solve all my needs. I do like the colour highlighting though. Have you tried the EditGPX plugin? It automatically converts the tracks to a separate EditGPX layer to allow editing, and converts back to GPX. - Garmin BaseCamp: may actually be able to do some of this, but unusably slow on large amounts of data, and has some really funky ideas about how to manage a collection of tracks. - Garmin MapSource: no editing of traces that I can see. MapSource has some options for track editing. First, make sure you have a fairly recent version. There are options on the toolbar for track draw, erase, select, join, divide. And you can simplify tracks (right click on the track, then Track Properties - Filter). You can also have several MapSource windows open and copy and paste between them. I have found MapSource can be a bit slow at opening large GPX files, but its usually OK once they are open. I have noticed that if you save the track as a GDB file it loads much quicker in MapSource. Craig ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Had you considered QGIS? QGIS has the ability to import/export GPX so you could conceivably import into QGIS, do your editing, and export the newly tailored traces. SEJ Wretches, utter wretches, keep your hands from beans. -Empedocles On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:14, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I posted this question a few weeks ago and got some answers. I've been using Prune until now, but it's really not satisfactory. I've also tried out a couple of the other tools suggested, and they're pretty bad too. Here's my basic use case: I've just come back from a 4 day bike trip where I collected about 11Mb worth of gpx files, numbered 32.gpx-45.gpx and current.gpx, spanning about 250km (tracing 1 point per second while it was on). I want to merge them into one trace, then upload pieces of these to OSM, and also to some other sites. I want to totally disregard the original boundaries between traces (which I think represent either the GPS being turned off/on, or a trace getting too long). In short, I need to be able to: - merge multiple traces - be able to visually select pieces of a trace to either delete (for privacy/tidiness) or export - simplify a trace down to a much smaller number using some smart algorithm Preferably with an OSM slippy map type background. This sounds like a very small ask to me. I don't need it to directly interface with the GPS, convert formats or anything. Features like converting speeds to colour are nice, as are showing georeferenced photos. Solutions proposed: - Prune: very flakey on large numbers of traces, pretty tedious having to work in terms of ranges, pretty dumb how it sequences traces in the order you load them, not the order of their timestamps. The OSM background usually dies after a few minutes. Can't export ranges (instead you have to delete the rest of the trace). - EasyGPS: lacks the features I need. Fast though! - GPSu(tility): the shareware version is too crippled to evaluate, plus the interface looks pretty bad. - GPSbabel: only does conversion afaik, not editing. - GPSman: after 15+ minutes of going around in circles on the site, I can't even find the file to download. Or a clear statement whether it runs on windows. Plus it looks complicated to get all the right tcl/tk packages. - Viking: didn't work. Maybe my tcl/tk installation is broken. - JOSM: promising, but JOSM is always very slow on my machine, and I can't figure out how to edit gpx traces directly, other than converting them to data layers first. not sure if this will solve all my needs. I do like the colour highlighting though. - Garmin BaseCamp: may actually be able to do some of this, but unusably slow on large amounts of data, and has some really funky ideas about how to manage a collection of tracks. - Garmin MapSource: no editing of traces that I can see. - ExpertGPS: fast, seems to most of what I want (no useful overlays though), but $70 is a lot to spend on a tool that provides lots of features I can't use/don't want, like live GPS tracking So, maybe I'll use ExpertGPS till the evaluation period runs out, still looking for other good solutions though. Have I missed any? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
GPS Utility This is multifunctional - conversions, editing and more - the freeware version is a bit limited but the shareware version is imho well worth the small fee. http://www.gpsu.co.uk/index.html Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Craig Wallace [mailto:craig...@fastmail.fm] Sent: 28 January 2010 17:24 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks? On 28/01/2010 14:14, Steve Bennett wrote: Some comments on the ones of these I've used: Solutions proposed: - GPSbabel: only does conversion afaik, not editing. GPSBabel does have various options for editing tracks, though they are not all available in the GUI (some of them are, click the Filters button). eg to merge multiple files, just specify them all as inputs. And there is a simplify filter. You can also extract parts of tracks based on time etc. Some more details here: http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.6/Advanced_Usage.html http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.6/filter_track.html - JOSM: promising, but JOSM is always very slow on my machine, and I can't figure out how to edit gpx traces directly, other than converting them to data layers first. not sure if this will solve all my needs. I do like the colour highlighting though. Have you tried the EditGPX plugin? It automatically converts the tracks to a separate EditGPX layer to allow editing, and converts back to GPX. - Garmin BaseCamp: may actually be able to do some of this, but unusably slow on large amounts of data, and has some really funky ideas about how to manage a collection of tracks. - Garmin MapSource: no editing of traces that I can see. MapSource has some options for track editing. First, make sure you have a fairly recent version. There are options on the toolbar for track draw, erase, select, join, divide. And you can simplify tracks (right click on the track, then Track Properties - Filter). You can also have several MapSource windows open and copy and paste between them. I have found MapSource can be a bit slow at opening large GPX files, but its usually OK once they are open. I have noticed that if you save the track as a GDB file it loads much quicker in MapSource. Craig ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: - Prune: I'm in the same boat, and this is what I continue to use (on Ubuntu - so Windows-only options are excluded for me). very flakey on large numbers of traces, pretty tedious having to work in terms of ranges, pretty dumb how it sequences traces in the order you load them, not the order of their timestamps. The OSM background usually dies after a few minutes. Can't export ranges (instead you have to delete the rest of the trace). Agreed on all counts. Let me know if you or anyone finds something better (that works on Ubuntu)... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
The previously mentioned Quantum GIS runs on Ubuntu. http://qgis.org/en/download/current-software.html It is an OpenSource desktop GIS that is improving both in features and quality very rapidly. David. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: - Prune: I'm in the same boat, and this is what I continue to use (on Ubuntu - so Windows-only options are excluded for me). very flakey on large numbers of traces, pretty tedious having to work in terms of ranges, pretty dumb how it sequences traces in the order you load them, not the order of their timestamps. The OSM background usually dies after a few minutes. Can't export ranges (instead you have to delete the rest of the trace). Agreed on all counts. Let me know if you or anyone finds something better (that works on Ubuntu)... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Steve Bennett wrote: I posted this question a few weeks ago and got some answers. I've been using Prune until now, but it's really not satisfactory. I've also tried out a couple of the other tools suggested, and they're pretty bad too. Here's my basic use case: I've just come back from a 4 day bike trip where I collected about 11Mb worth of gpx files, numbered 32.gpx-45.gpx and current.gpx, spanning about 250km (tracing 1 point per second while it was on). I want to merge them into one trace, then upload pieces of these to OSM, and also to some other sites. I want to totally disregard the original boundaries between traces (which I think represent either the GPS being turned off/on, or a trace getting too long). In short, I need to be able to: - merge multiple traces - be able to visually select pieces of a trace to either delete (for privacy/tidiness) or export - simplify a trace down to a much smaller number using some smart algorithm Preferably with an OSM slippy map type background. This sounds like a very small ask to me. I don't need it to directly interface with the GPS, convert formats or anything. Features like converting speeds to colour are nice, as are showing georeferenced photos. Solutions proposed: - Prune: very flakey on large numbers of traces, pretty tedious having to work in terms of ranges, pretty dumb how it sequences traces in the order you load them, not the order of their timestamps. The OSM background usually dies after a few minutes. Can't export ranges (instead you have to delete the rest of the trace). - EasyGPS: lacks the features I need. Fast though! - GPSu(tility): the shareware version is too crippled to evaluate, plus the interface looks pretty bad. - GPSbabel: only does conversion afaik, not editing. - GPSman: after 15+ minutes of going around in circles on the site, I can't even find the file to download. Or a clear statement whether it runs on windows. Plus it looks complicated to get all the right tcl/tk packages. - Viking: didn't work. Maybe my tcl/tk installation is broken. - JOSM: promising, but JOSM is always very slow on my machine, and I can't figure out how to edit gpx traces directly, other than converting them to data layers first. not sure if this will solve all my needs. I do like the colour highlighting though. - Garmin BaseCamp: may actually be able to do some of this, but unusably slow on large amounts of data, and has some really funky ideas about how to manage a collection of tracks. - Garmin MapSource: no editing of traces that I can see. - ExpertGPS: fast, seems to most of what I want (no useful overlays though), but $70 is a lot to spend on a tool that provides lots of features I can't use/don't want, like live GPS tracking So, maybe I'll use ExpertGPS till the evaluation period runs out, still looking for other good solutions though. Have I missed any? Steve Have you looked at GPX Edit? It's free. I haven't tried to do all the things you are wanting to do, but it does allow you to open multiple tracks, bind tracks, cut tracks, delete track segments and waypoints, delete all inside or outside a box, add points, overlay on Google maps. It might be worth a look. No automated simplification, though, and I don't know how well the binding works, I've only used it with single tracks. -- Randy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
Steve Bennett wrote: In short, I need to be able to: - merge multiple traces - be able to visually select pieces of a trace to either delete (for privacy/tidiness) or export - simplify a trace down to a much smaller number using some smart algorithm [..] - Viking: didn't work. Maybe my tcl/tk installation is broken. [..] One happy Viking user here. Selecting and merging work fine. Pruning is possible - but that involves quite a lot of pressing the delete key... Works for me ! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote: GPSBabel does have various options for editing tracks, though they are not all available in the GUI (some of them are, click the Filters button). eg to merge multiple files, just specify them all as inputs. And there is a simplify filter. You can also extract parts of tracks based on time etc. Some more details here: http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.6/Advanced_Usage.html http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.6/filter_track.html Ah, so it does. It makes it very easy to merge multiple tracks, split them by day, and simplify. So maybe I'll have to get used to pre-processing like this. Maybe I should request a privacy filter feature that automatically deletes any points within a hundred metres of various locations you specify. - JOSM: promising, but JOSM is always very slow on my machine, and I can't figure out how to edit gpx traces directly, other than converting them to data layers first. not sure if this will solve all my needs. I do like the colour highlighting though. Have you tried the EditGPX plugin? It automatically converts the tracks to a separate EditGPX layer to allow editing, and converts back to GPX. Yeah, that's with the EditGPX plugin. I don't get how it's supposed to work. The traces aren't clickable, and I don't understand what the GPXedit layer is supposed to do (distinct from the layers for the individual traces). Couldn't find any doco either. MapSource has some options for track editing. First, make sure you have a fairly recent version. There are options on the toolbar for track draw, erase, select, join, divide. And you can simplify tracks (right click on the track, then Track Properties - Filter). You can also have several MapSource windows open and copy and paste between them. I have found MapSource can be a bit slow at opening large GPX files, but its usually OK once they are open. I have noticed that if you save the track as a GDB file it loads much quicker in MapSource. Ok, will have another look, thanks. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Revisited: how to edit GPX tracks?
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com wrote: GPS Utility This is multifunctional - conversions, editing and more - the freeware version is a bit limited but the shareware version is imho well worth the small fee. http://www.gpsu.co.uk/index.html I mentioned this one. The shareware version is so crippled I couldn't even evaluate it. It has some incredibly small maximum number of points. They sort of shot themselves in the foot with that one. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
