Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
Updates that I've made in the past week are now showing on zooms = 12. It's not quite there for zooms 12, but I suspect that that's simply because the tiles haven't managed to upload to Andy's web host yet from the machine where he carries out the main rendering. I do remember seeing Andy tweeting recently that there'd been an issue with updates for a while (during an upgrade IIRC???), so perhaps that may explain it. I usually notice that changes I've made prior to the Wednesday are reflected at all zoom levels by the following Friday. From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Hillsman, Edward Sent: 24 June 2010 16:19 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating? Has the update frequency changed for OpenCycleMap? Some bike lanes added in late May and early June still haven't appeared yet. Ed Hillsman Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu blocked::http://www.cutr.usf.edu/ http://www.cutr.usf.edu ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
Hi Gregory, Your a little out of date of the way that the cycle map is run. It uses the live mapnk rendering, with no upload required. However it is still a weekly update, and can take a week to fully update assuming that the disk doesn't fill up first. Shaun On 24 Jun 2010, at 16:40, Gregory Williams wrote: Updates that I’ve made in the past week are now showing on zooms = 12. It’s not quite there for zooms 12, but I suspect that that’s simply because the tiles haven’t managed to upload to Andy’s web host yet from the machine where he carries out the main rendering. I do remember seeing Andy tweeting recently that there’d been an issue with updates for a while (during an upgrade IIRC???), so perhaps that may explain it. I usually notice that changes I’ve made prior to the Wednesday are reflected at all zoom levels by the following Friday. From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Hillsman, Edward Sent: 24 June 2010 16:19 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating? Has the update frequency changed for OpenCycleMap? Some bike lanes added in late May and early June still haven’t appeared yet. Ed Hillsman Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu http://www.cutr.usf.edu ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
Yeah I emailed Andy when I first started contributing to OSM because changes weren't showing up and some zoom levels in my area returned nothing but error tiles. He said the server was totally overloaded but that he was working on an upgrade. Since then updates have been hit and miss and the zoom levels that return error tiles have changed from time to time so I suspect he has been trying to do imports but some of them fail along the way. Two days ago he tweeted that the new server was nearly ready so hopefully things will improve soon! Toby ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
Ooops. Thanks for correcting my Shaun. Unfortunately I've not had quite so much time to keep up-to-date on OSM happenings of late. From: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] Sent: 24 June 2010 16:55 To: Gregory Williams Cc: 'Hillsman, Edward'; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating? Hi Gregory, Your a little out of date of the way that the cycle map is run. It uses the live mapnk rendering, with no upload required. However it is still a weekly update, and can take a week to fully update assuming that the disk doesn't fill up first. Shaun On 24 Jun 2010, at 16:40, Gregory Williams wrote: Updates that I've made in the past week are now showing on zooms = 12. It's not quite there for zooms 12, but I suspect that that's simply because the tiles haven't managed to upload to Andy's web host yet from the machine where he carries out the main rendering. I do remember seeing Andy tweeting recently that there'd been an issue with updates for a while (during an upgrade IIRC???), so perhaps that may explain it. I usually notice that changes I've made prior to the Wednesday are reflected at all zoom levels by the following Friday. From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Hillsman, Edward Sent: 24 June 2010 16:19 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating? Has the update frequency changed for OpenCycleMap? Some bike lanes added in late May and early June still haven't appeared yet. Ed Hillsman Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu blocked::http://www.cutr.usf.edu/ http://www.cutr.usf.edu ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
On 24/06/2010 16:57, Toby Murray wrote: Two days ago he tweeted that the new server was nearly ready so hopefully things will improve soon! And don't forget, if you think OpenCycleMap.org is great, you could always call in at the shop on the way out: http://shop.opencyclemap.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
Yeah. Also, as Toby says, it's pretty much totally overloaded, and has been for the last few months. What's happened recently was that the updates broke for a few weeks, and were restarted last Wednesday. The disk cache then filled up completely on Friday, so there was only a small window for the tiles to be re-rendered. Space was freed up on Monday, and then rendering was stopped again on Wednesday for the next scheduled update. I estimate it would take about 10-12 days to update all the tiles, and there simply hasn't been very many days in the last week where the system has been updating - and because it wasn't updating for three weeks before that, some tiles are seriously out of date. They should sort themselves out, over the next week or so. As for the new server that's being mentioned, that's being set up at the moment. New host, new hardware, new software (mainly newer versions of mapnik and osm2pgsql). Unfortunately it's not as fast as I'd hoped, and I'm seriously concerned about whether it'll be able to take the load! Running osm2pgsql in slim mode is soaking up much of the hardware improvements. We'll see how it goes, but I'm confident the whole thing is moving in the right direction. It starts coming down to questions of time and money, and I only have a limited supply of both :-) Cheers, Andy On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: Hi Gregory, Your a little out of date of the way that the cycle map is run. It uses the live mapnk rendering, with no upload required. However it is still a weekly update, and can take a week to fully update assuming that the disk doesn't fill up first. Shaun On 24 Jun 2010, at 16:40, Gregory Williams wrote: Updates that I’ve made in the past week are now showing on zooms = 12. It’s not quite there for zooms 12, but I suspect that that’s simply because the tiles haven’t managed to upload to Andy’s web host yet from the machine where he carries out the main rendering. I do remember seeing Andy tweeting recently that there’d been an issue with updates for a while (during an upgrade IIRC???), so perhaps that may explain it. I usually notice that changes I’ve made prior to the Wednesday are reflected at all zoom levels by the following Friday. From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] on Behalf Of Hillsman, Edward Sent: 24 June 2010 16:19 To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating? Has the update frequency changed for OpenCycleMap? Some bike lanes added in late May and early June still haven’t appeared yet. Ed Hillsman Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu http://www.cutr.usf.edu ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
An alternative is to use Maperitive and render on the local PC. Its just a matter of using the right rules for rendering but you do need an .OSM file from the web unless you have a local copy. Cheerio John On 24 June 2010 12:53, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. Also, as Toby says, it's pretty much totally overloaded, and has been for the last few months. What's happened recently was that the updates broke for a few weeks, and were restarted last Wednesday. The disk cache then filled up completely on Friday, so there was only a small window for the tiles to be re-rendered. Space was freed up on Monday, and then rendering was stopped again on Wednesday for the next scheduled update. I estimate it would take about 10-12 days to update all the tiles, and there simply hasn't been very many days in the last week where the system has been updating - and because it wasn't updating for three weeks before that, some tiles are seriously out of date. They should sort themselves out, over the next week or so. As for the new server that's being mentioned, that's being set up at the moment. New host, new hardware, new software (mainly newer versions of mapnik and osm2pgsql). Unfortunately it's not as fast as I'd hoped, and I'm seriously concerned about whether it'll be able to take the load! Running osm2pgsql in slim mode is soaking up much of the hardware improvements. We'll see how it goes, but I'm confident the whole thing is moving in the right direction. It starts coming down to questions of time and money, and I only have a limited supply of both :-) Cheers, Andy On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: Hi Gregory, Your a little out of date of the way that the cycle map is run. It uses the live mapnk rendering, with no upload required. However it is still a weekly update, and can take a week to fully update assuming that the disk doesn't fill up first. Shaun On 24 Jun 2010, at 16:40, Gregory Williams wrote: Updates that I’ve made in the past week are now showing on zooms = 12. It’s not quite there for zooms 12, but I suspect that that’s simply because the tiles haven’t managed to upload to Andy’s web host yet from the machine where he carries out the main rendering. I do remember seeing Andy tweeting recently that there’d been an issue with updates for a while (during an upgrade IIRC???), so perhaps that may explain it. I usually notice that changes I’ve made prior to the Wednesday are reflected at all zoom levels by the following Friday. From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Hillsman, Edward Sent: 24 June 2010 16:19 To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating? Has the update frequency changed for OpenCycleMap? Some bike lanes added in late May and early June still haven’t appeared yet. Ed Hillsman Senior Research Associate Center for Urban Transportation Research University of South Florida 4202 Fowler Ave., CUT100 Tampa, FL 33620-5375 813-974-2977 (tel) 813-974-5168 (fax) hills...@cutr.usf.edu http://www.cutr.usf.edu ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] cycle map not updating?
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010, Andy Allan wrote: It starts coming down to questions of time and money, and I only have a limited supply of both :-) Usually one has either time OR money, and never both at once ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
