Re: [Talk-us] Google maps source

2013-06-04 Thread the Old Topo Depot
Brian,

If good quality TIGER data exists for this area and can validate the
changes then I suggest it's OK to change the source to TIGER, otherwise it
seems prudent to backout all the changesets tagged as sourced from Google
Maps.

The one-way flows can sometimes be inferred from pavement markings and Bing
aerials.

Best,


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote:

 I just ran into an area where someone tagged streets with source=google
 maps. Looks like an un-aware new user who only had 8 changesets over two
 days and that was it. What to do about this?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/**user/Hercumike/editshttp://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hercumike/edits

 Brian


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Re: [Talk-us] Google maps source

2013-06-04 Thread Rick Marshall
Brian,

 I have done that before.  If the road geometry is incorrect in
OpenStreetMap due to inaccuracies with the source TIGER Files and it is
either incorrect or non-existent on Bing, but correct on Google Maps, and
we use bing imagery for tracing the road geometry, but Google Maps to
discover the name of the road is it incorrect to use source=google?  You
are not tracing a road geometry from Google Maps, but you might be using it
for other attribute data.  Seems like the tagging should be either
source=bing or source=google or both.

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:21 AM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.comwrote:

 Brian,

 If good quality TIGER data exists for this area and can validate the
 changes then I suggest it's OK to change the source to TIGER, otherwise it
 seems prudent to backout all the changesets tagged as sourced from Google
 Maps.

 The one-way flows can sometimes be inferred from pavement markings and
 Bing aerials.

 Best,


 On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Brian May b...@mapwise.com wrote:

 I just ran into an area where someone tagged streets with source=google
 maps. Looks like an un-aware new user who only had 8 changesets over two
 days and that was it. What to do about this?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/**user/Hercumike/editshttp://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hercumike/edits

 Brian


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Re: [Talk-us] Google maps source

2013-06-04 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Rick Marshall wrote:
 If we use bing imagery for tracing the road geometry, but Google 
 Maps to discover the name of the road is it incorrect to use 
 source=google?  You are not tracing a road geometry from 
 Google Maps, but you might be using it for other attribute data.

_Do_not_copy_ANYTHING_from_Google_Maps_.

From the terms you agreed to on sign-up:
Your contribution of data should not infringe the intellectual property
rights of anyone else. If you contribute Contents, You are indicating that,
as far as You know, You have the right to authorize OSMF to use and
distribute those Contents under our current licence terms.

From openstreetmap.org/copyright:
OSM contributors are reminded never to add data from any copyrighted
sources (e.g. Google Maps or printed maps) without explicit permission from
the copyright holders.

From the Legal FAQ on the wiki:
Other sources must not be used as the base of any data uploaded to OSM -
whether maps, aerial imagery, or photographs such as Google Street View.
This is because their licences and/or terms of use (contracts) forbid you to
do so. Only sources with compatible licenses - such as US Government
information released into the public domain - may be used as bases for
adding OSM data.

That means _any_ data from Google Maps. Not just street geometries, any
data.

If you have copied streetnames from Google Maps, please let the Data Working
Group know (d...@osmfoundation.org) so that they can remove it from the
database. Thanks.

Richard





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