Re: [Techno-Chat]: Polk Audio S6 Impressions So Far!

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
While we're on the subject of Wireless speaker systems, I've ordered my 
Definitive Technology W9 speaker which is supposed to be up there with 
the a7 so I'm hoping that this time next week I'll be nodding my head in 
agreement.


The W9 has some extra functionality that hthe A7 does not which suits me 
hence the reason I ordered one, that functionality being the Play-Fi 
protocol which is also available on the Polk Audio Omni series, Rotel's 
fine T14 FM/DAB Wi-Fi Streamer etc.




On 1/07/2017 8:14 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:

Hello everybody

I've had my own Polk Audio S6 streaming speaker system for a few days now. I 
have not said anything until now, because I wanted to be able to gain a good 
insight into the device's performance and functionality first.

Dane and I have agreed to pool our resourses to compile a jioint review of this 
product, and that should be available soon. However, these are some of my 
initial findings.

In terms of audio quality which, after all, is the crux issue when it comes to 
devices of this type, I had to take a few moments quiet repose so that I could 
collect my thoughts. All I can say at this juncture is that I'm very glad 
nobody could see me when I attained my first streaming audio. Reason: I was 
simply stunned! The device has four amplifiers to drive it's individual drivers 
and, my oh my, Can you tell! The audio when streaming high quality content is 
just unsurpassed by any other wireless audio system of it's kind which I have 
ever encountered.

It doesn't quite come up to the standards of my Samsung HW-6500J sound bar. But 
then again, I wouldn't have expected it too. We're talking about two entirely 
different devices here, fundimentally different in functionality.

But it deffitely compares favourably with the Boes and Bows wireless systems I 
have here. And neither of those is exactky what I'd call bad!

But there's one very marked difference, and I noticed it immediately. If you 
position the speaker correctly in relation to your listening environment at the 
time, the stereo separation and reproduction quality are just amazing for such 
a device.

I put some very high quality audio content into the device, and was rewarded by 
sound production which would put many high-end high fidelity systems to shame. 
Again, one must be realistic in terms of making comparisons, and I'm very lothe 
to do so when systems operate so very differently. I will be more detailed 
later when we do our primary review. But I certainly wouldn't have any 
difficulty with sitting listening to this device for hours at a time. For me 
personally, it has re-enabled my appreciation of stereo sound, something which 
I've not had for some years. And I'm thrilled for that reason alone!

More later.

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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Mac OS Sierra And Firewire

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
I’ve got no idea, when I took source to task he backed down and thought it was 
perhaps problems with Audio Firewire devices he was reading about?

> On 1 Jul 2017, at 6:56 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
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> I skipped to the short cut. I have 2 Mac Minis running the latest operating 
> system from Apple. I can confirm that my firewire drives still work fine. 
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>> On 30 Jun 2017, at 11:01, Iaen Cordell > > wrote:
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>> Why not install the early OS then do the upgrade?
>> Ifit is like windows the firewire drivers should stay.
>> Cheers
>> IC
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net 
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>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:58 PM
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>> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Mac OS Sierra And Firewire
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I'm hoping for accurate information on this.
>> 
>> I'm looking at setting my Late 2012 Mac Mini as a server machine and thus am 
>> thinking of using some old Firewire drives I have here as part of it.
>> 
>> I'm told that I'll have to install an earlier OS than Sierra given that
>> - acording to what I've heard - Sierra no longer comes with Firewire drivers 
>> nor Firewire support.
>> 
>> I have to be honest in saying that I find this rather odd so some 
>> confirmation of the status quo would be much appreciated.
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Polk Audio S6 Impressions So Far!

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
Interesting and I do agree that the speaker - for what it is - sounds excellent 
given the money one costs the Polk Audio S6 is a bargain.
I also like the Omni s2 though that speaker is a different kettle of fish.
One can buy better of course and we’ll talk about that later.
With these wireless speaker offerings there’s a little more to consider than 
just sound quality, how your speaker is going to connect to your network and 
the protocols it supports over your network for example however let’s not get 
into the nitty gritty right now, the Omni s6 is a speaker worthy of the Polk 
Audio name without a doubt.
Perhaps a little resonate in its sound but yes, something that can be enjoyed.

> On 1 Jul 2017, at 8:14 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello everybody
> 
> I've had my own Polk Audio S6 streaming speaker system for a few days now. I 
> have not said anything until now, because I wanted to be able to gain a good 
> insight into the device's performance and functionality first.
> 
> Dane and I have agreed to pool our resourses to compile a jioint review of 
> this product, and that should be available soon. However, these are some of 
> my initial findings.
> 
> In terms of audio quality which, after all, is the crux issue when it comes 
> to devices of this type, I had to take a few moments quiet repose so that I 
> could collect my thoughts. All I can say at this juncture is that I'm very 
> glad nobody could see me when I attained my first streaming audio. Reason: I 
> was simply stunned! The device has four amplifiers to drive it's individual 
> drivers and, my oh my, Can you tell! The audio when streaming high quality 
> content is just unsurpassed by any other wireless audio system of it's kind 
> which I have ever encountered.
> 
> It doesn't quite come up to the standards of my Samsung HW-6500J sound bar. 
> But then again, I wouldn't have expected it too. We're talking about two 
> entirely different devices here, fundimentally different in functionality.
> 
> But it deffitely compares favourably with the Boes and Bows wireless systems 
> I have here. And neither of those is exactky what I'd call bad!
> 
> But there's one very marked difference, and I noticed it immediately. If you 
> position the speaker correctly in relation to your listening environment at 
> the time, the stereo separation and reproduction quality are just amazing for 
> such a device.
> 
> I put some very high quality audio content into the device, and was rewarded 
> by sound production which would put many high-end high fidelity systems to 
> shame. Again, one must be realistic in terms of making comparisons, and I'm 
> very lothe to do so when systems operate so very differently. I will be more 
> detailed later when we do our primary review. But I certainly wouldn't have 
> any difficulty with sitting listening to this device for hours at a time. For 
> me personally, it has re-enabled my appreciation of stereo sound, something 
> which I've not had for some years. And I'm thrilled for that reason alone!
> 
> More later.
> 
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[Techno-Chat]: Polk Audio S6 Impressions So Far!

2017-06-30 Thread Gordon Smith 
Hello everybody

I've had my own Polk Audio S6 streaming speaker system for a few days now. I 
have not said anything until now, because I wanted to be able to gain a good 
insight into the device's performance and functionality first.

Dane and I have agreed to pool our resourses to compile a jioint review of this 
product, and that should be available soon. However, these are some of my 
initial findings.

In terms of audio quality which, after all, is the crux issue when it comes to 
devices of this type, I had to take a few moments quiet repose so that I could 
collect my thoughts. All I can say at this juncture is that I'm very glad 
nobody could see me when I attained my first streaming audio. Reason: I was 
simply stunned! The device has four amplifiers to drive it's individual drivers 
and, my oh my, Can you tell! The audio when streaming high quality content is 
just unsurpassed by any other wireless audio system of it's kind which I have 
ever encountered.

It doesn't quite come up to the standards of my Samsung HW-6500J sound bar. But 
then again, I wouldn't have expected it too. We're talking about two entirely 
different devices here, fundimentally different in functionality.

But it deffitely compares favourably with the Boes and Bows wireless systems I 
have here. And neither of those is exactky what I'd call bad!

But there's one very marked difference, and I noticed it immediately. If you 
position the speaker correctly in relation to your listening environment at the 
time, the stereo separation and reproduction quality are just amazing for such 
a device.

I put some very high quality audio content into the device, and was rewarded by 
sound production which would put many high-end high fidelity systems to shame. 
Again, one must be realistic in terms of making comparisons, and I'm very lothe 
to do so when systems operate so very differently. I will be more detailed 
later when we do our primary review. But I certainly wouldn't have any 
difficulty with sitting listening to this device for hours at a time. For me 
personally, it has re-enabled my appreciation of stereo sound, something which 
I've not had for some years. And I'm thrilled for that reason alone!

More later.

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Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

2017-06-30 Thread Gordon Smith 
Correct that, it should have been two countries. We get the same prices for 10 
days on thee UK dealer’s web shop. From 18 to 28 July, I believe it is. So if 
you’re looking for something from Freedom and its associates and you’re in the 
UK, go grab yourself a bargain at http://www.sightandsound.co.uk 
 when the time is right.

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> On 30 Jun 2017, at 09:32, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that suggestion and yes, I will double-check.
> 
> The only other thing I can say at this point is that there ought to be an 
> International World Wide bann or law on citizen's in one part of the world 
> making others in another country jealous .
> 
> 
> 
> On 30/06/2017 6:05 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> In the UK Sight and Sound are also offering these reduced FS prices online 
>> from July 10th to July 24th if I recall correctly.
>> 
>> I think this was introduced after complaints from those unable to visit the 
>> Sight Village  Exhibition in  Birmingham in the UK>
>> 
>> It might be worth checking with your local FS distributor to see if similar 
>> arrangements have been made.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net]
>> Sent: 30 June 2017 08:14
>> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast
>> 
>> Yep, shows how interested blindness organisations such as Blind Clowns Of 
>> Australia are in their members, I did say interested though perhaps I should 
>> have said not interested.
>> 
>> Conventions such as the ACB and NFB conventions in the States are great 
>> occasions where the latest technology available to consumers can be shown, 
>> when did Blind Clowns ever organise something such as a useful convention 
>> showing off technology and helping people actually get hold of it? And Blind 
>> Clowns wonder why people aren't donating or supporting these days.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30/06/2017 4:57 PM, Debbie Yuille wrote:
>>> Yeah I know. It sucks that we never get those prices off.
>>> 
>>> Debbie
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, 30 June 2017 3:50 AM
>>> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast
>>> 
>>> Let's put this into further context.
>>> 
>>> Its convention time in the US so yep, the perfect time to take advantage of 
>>> all these offers - and wistfully think of the United states as paradise 
>>>  -.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 29/06/2017 11:23 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
 Good Friday
 
 I’ve just spent a happy hour listening to the FS podcast for 29 June. That 
 was the best podcast I’ve ever heard from them. Jonathan did detailed 
 demos on the ElBraille, and announced some quite startling price 
 reductions on all of their software titles, plus reductions on the Pearl 
 camera and so on.
 
 JAWS licenses are, at last, within the reach of most people. For specifics 
 visit their website.
 
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Mac OS Sierra And Firewire

2017-06-30 Thread Gordon Smith 
I skipped to the short cut. I have 2 Mac Minis running the latest operating 
system from Apple. I can confirm that my firewire drives still work fine. What, 
and where, is the problem?

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> On 30 Jun 2017, at 11:01, Iaen Cordell  wrote:
> 
> Why not install the early OS then do the upgrade?
> Ifit is like windows the firewire drivers should stay.
> Cheers
> IC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net] 
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 6:58 PM
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Mac OS Sierra And Firewire
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm hoping for accurate information on this.
> 
> I'm looking at setting my Late 2012 Mac Mini as a server machine and thus am 
> thinking of using some old Firewire drives I have here as part of it.
> 
> I'm told that I'll have to install an earlier OS than Sierra given that
> - acording to what I've heard - Sierra no longer comes with Firewire drivers 
> nor Firewire support.
> 
> I have to be honest in saying that I find this rather odd so some 
> confirmation of the status quo would be much appreciated.
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Happy Birhday

2017-06-30 Thread Gordon Smith 
Actually, when I wrote this, it was yesterday. But for some reason it never got 
sent until today. So I have to go hide my head with embarrassment. Apple 
released the very first iPhone on 29 June 2007. It was indeed a business 
disaster, at least the business model was. Until the 3GS there was no 
accessibility. But since that time, things have gone from good, to great, to 
wonderful, to terrific, to amazing, to excellent, to incredible, to WOW! 
I’m out of descriptive terms. And I don’t think anybody could possibly dispute 
the role that Apple has played in not only mobile accessibility, but assistive 
accessibility in general. Just look at the changes in the Windows world since 
Tiger, the very first accessible Apple operating system. It has impacted on 
everybody, whether or not they use Apple’s equipment. Yes, Windows users, you 
may not like the sound of that, nevertheless it is true.

The late Steve Jobs deserves a great deal of credit for inspiring his team to 
achieve such dizzy heights. Even after he was gone, his legacy lives on and 
continues to flourish.


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> On 30 Jun 2017, at 16:49, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Yes indeed, Happy Birthday IOS!
> The first iPhone was available in 3 flavours, 4, 8 and 16GB storage capacity.
> Apple introduced the “Apps Store” a year later but - up until that point - 
> the iPhone was a business disaster.
> The iPhone without a doubt revolutionised hand-held devices and from that 
> Android and Windows Phone were born.
> I joined the party with an Apple 3GS in late 2009 and positively marvelled at 
> how a blind person could use and read a Touch Screen, if anyone had told me 
> up until that point that a blind person could use a Touch Screen efficiently 
> then I would have laughed quite literally in their face.
> The iPhone reminds me of a Braille Note Taker in some ways, some people think 
> an iPhone - like a Note Taker - is God’s gift to the blind. And thus exclude 
> other technology’s or other equipment that may be more practical, there is a 
> big wide world out there.
> 
>> On 1 Jul 2017, at 1:20 am, Gordon Smith > > wrote:
>> 
>> Good day to you all.
>> 
>> I’m not starting another Apple thread here, it’s more of a generic 
>> observation.
>> 
>> It was exactly 10 years ago today that Apple released the first iPhone. What 
>> a lot has changed in those ensuing years, and quite a bit has not changed. 
>> iOS in its nappy-wetting days was very very basic. I joined the party with 
>> the release of the 3GS and it’s continued from there.
>> 
>> The word is that Apple plans to release the first public beta of iOS11 later 
>> today, so that should be interesting.
>> 
>> Anyway, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you!  Happy birthday, dear 
>> iPhone, happy birthday to you!
>> 
>> Ten candles on the cake already.
>> 
>> =
>> 
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> >
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RE: [Techno-Chat]: Reading ePub books

2017-06-30 Thread David Griffith 
Personally I do not like reading in Browsers on my devices although clearly it 
can be done.

For me especially with books I want more navigation options for chapters  and 
bookmarking etc.

On iOS - Voicedream Reader is what I use nearly all the time though iBooks is a 
free option. Voicedream I like because you can easily navigate by time or book 
percentage. Just swiping up or down on the play/pause button navigates by the 
chosen navigation unit. Swiping up or down on the percentage  box navigate in 
increments of 5%
On Android I also use Voicedream Reader though it is not as good as on the iOS 
side as it tends to be erratic at controlling speed of playback for some 
voices. For this reason I also use 3MP Reader (I think that is what it is 
called( - I might have to check. This is also a good reader but I have found no 
way of deleting books from the library. For both readers on Android I  find it 
best to open the books directly from a File Explorer type program like Total 
Commander or even the Dropbox app. The big selling point of Android readers for 
me is the ability to use Eloquence speech.
On Windows I use QRead which is a paid app but has good screenreader support. 
Pressing control H will normally bring up the book heading, normally including 
chapters etc. You can navigate as if you werer for example in a word document.
Text Aloud Mp3 or  its free alternative - I cannot remember its name Bannabolka 
I think are options for conversion of ePub into mp3.

On the Mac side I used to use Stanza but support for modern ePub  formats has 
also become erratic with spurious characters being included. I personally find 
iBooks flaky with frequent busy messages as well so I am not sure there is now 
a problem free good Mac option though iBooks is the best of a bad bunch I 
guess. Note that not everybody has the problems with iBooks that I encounter so 
it might be fine for you.

Finally of course the Victor Reader Stream is an excellent ePub reader with 
good  button navigation options. The books will play  with TTS when placed in 
the $DTB folder.

David Griffith


David Griffith.

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Your option makes a great deal of sense as it can be applied universally and 
I’ll be able to read the ePub titles I now have on my Sony Android phone 
without any trouble at all.

> On 1 Jul 2017, at 4:10 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> 
> I know a lot of folks don't like this option, but for me, it works well.
> 
> An epub file is just a zip file with all the contents of the book compressed 
> into a single file.
> 
> All you need to do to read an epub book is extract the file, then navigate to 
> the html files, and read them with your browser of choice.  I like this 
> method, and it works for me, your mileage may vary.
> 
> Of course, this won't work if you have drm protected epubs, as the browser 
> won't know how to decrypt the drm content, but under all other circumstances, 
> it works just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/2017 1:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I'm new to this format.
>> 
>> Can anyone recommend good Apps I could use to read ePub books?
>> 
>> I assume Voicedream reader on IOS will work so what about Windows PC, Mac 
>> and Android?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Reading ePub books

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
Your option makes a great deal of sense as it can be applied universally and 
I’ll be able to read the ePub titles I now have on my Sony Android phone 
without any trouble at all.

> On 1 Jul 2017, at 4:10 am, Travis Siegel  wrote:
> 
> I know a lot of folks don't like this option, but for me, it works well.
> 
> An epub file is just a zip file with all the contents of the book compressed 
> into a single file.
> 
> All you need to do to read an epub book is extract the file, then navigate to 
> the html files, and read them with your browser of choice.  I like this 
> method, and it works for me, your mileage may vary.
> 
> Of course, this won't work if you have drm protected epubs, as the browser 
> won't know how to decrypt the drm content, but under all other circumstances, 
> it works just fine.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/2017 1:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I'm new to this format.
>> 
>> Can anyone recommend good Apps I could use to read ePub books?
>> 
>> I assume Voicedream reader on IOS will work so what about Windows PC, Mac 
>> and Android?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Reading ePub books

2017-06-30 Thread Travis Siegel 

I know a lot of folks don't like this option, but for me, it works well.

An epub file is just a zip file with all the contents of the book 
compressed into a single file.


All you need to do to read an epub book is extract the file, then 
navigate to the html files, and read them with your browser of choice.  
I like this method, and it works for me, your mileage may vary.


Of course, this won't work if you have drm protected epubs, as the 
browser won't know how to decrypt the drm content, but under all other 
circumstances, it works just fine.




On 6/30/2017 1:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Hi!

I'm new to this format.

Can anyone recommend good Apps I could use to read ePub books?

I assume Voicedream reader on IOS will work so what about Windows PC, 
Mac and Android?


Thanks





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[Techno-Chat]: Paring the Newer Magic Bluetooth keyboards with a Mac

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
So how is this done? I know with the older models one held in the Power button 
for a couple of seconds to put the board into Bluetooth paring, these latest 
boards have an on/off switch rather than a button.

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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Happy Birhday

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
Yes indeed, Happy Birthday IOS!
The first iPhone was available in 3 flavours, 4, 8 and 16GB storage capacity.
Apple introduced the “Apps Store” a year later but - up until that point - the 
iPhone was a business disaster.
The iPhone without a doubt revolutionised hand-held devices and from that 
Android and Windows Phone were born.
I joined the party with an Apple 3GS in late 2009 and positively marvelled at 
how a blind person could use and read a Touch Screen, if anyone had told me up 
until that point that a blind person could use a Touch Screen efficiently then 
I would have laughed quite literally in their face.
The iPhone reminds me of a Braille Note Taker in some ways, some people think 
an iPhone - like a Note Taker - is God’s gift to the blind. And thus exclude 
other technology’s or other equipment that may be more practical, there is a 
big wide world out there.

> On 1 Jul 2017, at 1:20 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> Good day to you all.
> 
> I’m not starting another Apple thread here, it’s more of a generic 
> observation.
> 
> It was exactly 10 years ago today that Apple released the first iPhone. What 
> a lot has changed in those ensuing years, and quite a bit has not changed. 
> iOS in its nappy-wetting days was very very basic. I joined the party with 
> the release of the 3GS and it’s continued from there.
> 
> The word is that Apple plans to release the first public beta of iOS11 later 
> today, so that should be interesting.
> 
> Anyway, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you!  Happy birthday, dear 
> iPhone, happy birthday to you!
> 
> Ten candles on the cake already.
> 
> =
> 
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[Techno-Chat]: Happy Birhday

2017-06-30 Thread Gordon Smith 
Good day to you all.

I’m not starting another Apple thread here, it’s more of a generic observation.

It was exactly 10 years ago today that Apple released the first iPhone. What a 
lot has changed in those ensuing years, and quite a bit has not changed. iOS in 
its nappy-wetting days was very very basic. I joined the party with the release 
of the 3GS and it’s continued from there.

The word is that Apple plans to release the first public beta of iOS11 later 
today, so that should be interesting.

Anyway, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you!  Happy birthday, dear 
iPhone, happy birthday to you!

Ten candles on the cake already.

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RE: [Techno-Chat]: Mac OS Sierra And Firewire

2017-06-30 Thread Iaen Cordell 
Why not install the early OS then do the upgrade?
Ifit is like windows the firewire drivers should stay.
Cheers
IC

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Hi!

I'm hoping for accurate information on this.

I'm looking at setting my Late 2012 Mac Mini as a server machine and thus am 
thinking of using some old Firewire drives I have here as part of it.

I'm told that I'll have to install an earlier OS than Sierra given that
- acording to what I've heard - Sierra no longer comes with Firewire drivers 
nor Firewire support.

I have to be honest in saying that I find this rather odd so some confirmation 
of the status quo would be much appreciated.


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Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 

Thanks for that suggestion and yes, I will double-check.

The only other thing I can say at this point is that there ought to be 
an International World Wide bann or law on citizen's in one part of the 
world making others in another country jealous .




On 30/06/2017 6:05 PM, David Griffith wrote:

In the UK Sight and Sound are also offering these reduced FS prices online from 
July 10th to July 24th if I recall correctly.

I think this was introduced after complaints from those unable to visit the Sight 
Village  Exhibition in  Birmingham in the UK>

It might be worth checking with your local FS distributor to see if similar 
arrangements have been made.

David Griffith




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To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

Yep, shows how interested blindness organisations such as Blind Clowns Of 
Australia are in their members, I did say interested though perhaps I should 
have said not interested.

Conventions such as the ACB and NFB conventions in the States are great 
occasions where the latest technology available to consumers can be shown, when 
did Blind Clowns ever organise something such as a useful convention showing 
off technology and helping people actually get hold of it? And Blind Clowns 
wonder why people aren't donating or supporting these days.



On 30/06/2017 4:57 PM, Debbie Yuille wrote:

Yeah I know. It sucks that we never get those prices off.

Debbie

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Let's put this into further context.

Its convention time in the US so yep, the perfect time to take advantage of all these 
offers - and wistfully think of the United states as paradise  -.



On 29/06/2017 11:23 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

Good Friday

I’ve just spent a happy hour listening to the FS podcast for 29 June. That was 
the best podcast I’ve ever heard from them. Jonathan did detailed demos on the 
ElBraille, and announced some quite startling price reductions on all of their 
software titles, plus reductions on the Pearl camera and so on.

JAWS licenses are, at last, within the reach of most people. For specifics 
visit their website.

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RE: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

2017-06-30 Thread David Griffith 

In the UK Sight and Sound are also offering these reduced FS prices online from 
July 10th to July 24th if I recall correctly.

I think this was introduced after complaints from those unable to visit the 
Sight Village  Exhibition in  Birmingham in the UK>

It might be worth checking with your local FS distributor to see if similar 
arrangements have been made.

David Griffith




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From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: 30 June 2017 08:14
To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

Yep, shows how interested blindness organisations such as Blind Clowns Of 
Australia are in their members, I did say interested though perhaps I should 
have said not interested.

Conventions such as the ACB and NFB conventions in the States are great 
occasions where the latest technology available to consumers can be shown, when 
did Blind Clowns ever organise something such as a useful convention showing 
off technology and helping people actually get hold of it? And Blind Clowns 
wonder why people aren't donating or supporting these days.



On 30/06/2017 4:57 PM, Debbie Yuille wrote:
> Yeah I know. It sucks that we never get those prices off.
>
> Debbie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net]
> Sent: Friday, 30 June 2017 3:50 AM
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast
>
> Let's put this into further context.
>
> Its convention time in the US so yep, the perfect time to take advantage of 
> all these offers - and wistfully think of the United states as paradise 
>  -.
>
>
>
> On 29/06/2017 11:23 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> Good Friday
>>
>> I’ve just spent a happy hour listening to the FS podcast for 29 June. That 
>> was the best podcast I’ve ever heard from them. Jonathan did detailed demos 
>> on the ElBraille, and announced some quite startling price reductions on all 
>> of their software titles, plus reductions on the Pearl camera and so on.
>>
>> JAWS licenses are, at last, within the reach of most people. For specifics 
>> visit their website.
>>
>> =
>>
>> My compliments and kindest regards
>> Gordon Smith:
>> 
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> • UKFree Phone – 0800 8620538
>> • UK Mobile – +44 (0) 7907 823971
>>
>> • Australia Geographic – +61 38 82059300 • US Geographic – +1 646 
>> 9151493Mobile/S
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 

Debbie!

I wonder what you think of this and I'm sure you have a view given 
you're as into technology as I am.


If what I'm hearing is anything to go by a lot of people - being sick 
and tired of forever paying upgrade costs for JAWS, this, that and the 
other - are giving JAWS the shove and just using NVDA.


NVDA is - without a doubt - an incredible product and very functional - 
even more incredible given its available free of charge -.


A lot of folks seem to be of the opinion that NVDA does what I want so 
why should I bother even using JAWS etc.


It also seems that a lot of those who were users of Window-Eyes won't be 
making the migration to JAWS choosing to use NVDA instead, have you 
noticed any particular trends here?




On 30/06/2017 4:57 PM, Debbie Yuille wrote:

Yeah I know. It sucks that we never get those prices off.

Debbie

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Let's put this into further context.

Its convention time in the US so yep, the perfect time to take advantage of all these 
offers - and wistfully think of the United states as paradise  -.



On 29/06/2017 11:23 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

Good Friday

I’ve just spent a happy hour listening to the FS podcast for 29 June. That was 
the best podcast I’ve ever heard from them. Jonathan did detailed demos on the 
ElBraille, and announced some quite startling price reductions on all of their 
software titles, plus reductions on the Pearl camera and so on.

JAWS licenses are, at last, within the reach of most people. For specifics 
visit their website.

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Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

2017-06-30 Thread Dane Trethowan 
Yep, shows how interested blindness organisations such as Blind Clowns 
Of Australia are in their members, I did say interested though perhaps I 
should have said not interested.


Conventions such as the ACB and NFB conventions in the States are great 
occasions where the latest technology available to consumers can be 
shown, when did Blind Clowns ever organise something such as a useful 
convention showing off technology and helping people actually get hold 
of it? And Blind Clowns wonder why people aren't donating or supporting 
these days.




On 30/06/2017 4:57 PM, Debbie Yuille wrote:

Yeah I know. It sucks that we never get those prices off.

Debbie

-Original Message-
From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net]
Sent: Friday, 30 June 2017 3:50 AM
To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: FS Podcast

Let's put this into further context.

Its convention time in the US so yep, the perfect time to take advantage of all these 
offers - and wistfully think of the United states as paradise  -.



On 29/06/2017 11:23 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:

Good Friday

I’ve just spent a happy hour listening to the FS podcast for 29 June. That was 
the best podcast I’ve ever heard from them. Jonathan did detailed demos on the 
ElBraille, and announced some quite startling price reductions on all of their 
software titles, plus reductions on the Pearl camera and so on.

JAWS licenses are, at last, within the reach of most people. For specifics 
visit their website.

=

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Gordon Smith:


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