Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-19 Thread forum-user
Follow up... :)

I have installed the last trunk version and indeed, I have seen, in the 
definition of the company related to an employee record that you could define 
the unit of measure for task. It seems to work correctly even if they are some 
little bug, not blocking, and that should be probably fixed in next release (I 
assume) when defining day as the default unit of measure for the company:
- I had a pop up (could not remember when exactly but I will precise it later 
in this post) where the unit of measure was not correctly display (only display 
was wrong, control on validity of input was correct),
- the default display shows a time format instead of a classical integer 
format, even if control input works

Therefore, there is no more blocking for my part to definitely implement 
openERP in our company as our contract management tool.

Just one issue (BIG !!!) I have seen concerning the overall way that openERP 
manages unit. Indeed, you can change whenever you want the unit of measure of a 
product, even if there are some stock for it and/or some open orders  
Neither warning no error message !!! I didn't have time to verifiy if, when 
modififying unit of measure, if there some entries in accounting in order to 
reflect the valuation stock difference. but I think that this option is very 
very dangerous for a company ! I will post that issue in a new post...

thanks a lot for having resolved my first issue concerning units of measure.


stef




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Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-18 Thread forum-user
Thank you very much fabien for this confirmation and for your additional 
information.

I will install the trunk version (I am currentling working on the RC1.1) and 
test it this evening. I will post the result here in order to explain to others 
people the exact way to implement this solution.

Regards,


stef




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Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-17 Thread forum-user
Hello Raphaël,

thanks for your answer. I will continue to search (and will dive into the code 
if needed). I will post the result of my search.

If anybody has any other clues, it will be appreciate :)


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Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-17 Thread forum-user
@stef one,

some time ago I discussed the isse with Tiny.be guys and they said you could 
switch, but still is doesn't look straightforward for me (disclaimer, didn't 
invest too much time on that either).
It was just before Fabien posted:
http://fptiny.blogspot.com/2008/09/reviewed-project-management.html

Also in his blog post, he clearly states:
The unit of measure is now fully configurable per company so that you can work 
in hours/days or weeks
So I guess their is native support for it. As always, looking at the code (the 
code is quite clean and readable unlike most others ERPs) is the best way to 
find out how things work.

Still, generally speaking, if you don't like some unit, you could act et the 
presentation layer level: not rewrite all, but instead adding (by inheritance) 
computed fields with function + inverse function so that it will fill native 
fields in the right unit and present custom fields in customized units while 
keeping the native data model and operations on it.

Hope this helps. Still, when you find out how to parameter that hour/day stuff, 
please explain us here in the forum to streamline the process for the next 
interested peoples.

Oh, I forgot, I'm here speaking about the v5 (to be released very soon or 
available on Launchpad trunk),  not the v4.2 where hours unit is hardcoded for 
sure indeed.

Raphaël Valyi.


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Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-17 Thread forum-user
In trunk:

You can change the task's unit of measure on the company defnition. (in trunk 
only)
For the others (timesheets, sales, ...) you can use unit of measure. Change the 
unit of measure of the product related to the employee. (already in employee)

Open ERP is fully multiple unit of measure, so you can also mix measures: 
working in hours, selling in days, planning in weeks/months, ...




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Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-16 Thread Fabien Pinckaers

On the trunk version, you can change this on the company definition.
It changes on tasks. The others things: timesheets, sales, ... it uses 
the UoM defined on the related product.



Hello,

It seems that everything related to:
- planning
- attendance
- project / task
- timesheet
- cost for analytic account based on project/task or timesheet

is only based on hour. Is anybody knows if there is a way to manage it by day 
(1 or 0.5 day is the granularity requested).

Indeed, I'm trying to implement OpenERP for my IT company, and everything is 
based on day in our activity. Therefore, for the moment, this point is totally 
blocking for me... Do we have to totally re write code for our needs ?



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Re: [Tinyerp-users] Days instead of hours

2008-12-16 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Open ERP is fully multi-UoM, so that you can mix hours and days. Just 
say that:

  * Factor: 8 on hours
  * Factor: 1 on days

The factor at 1 should be the default unit of measure.

Fabien Pinckaers wrote:

On the trunk version, you can change this on the company definition.
It changes on tasks. The others things: timesheets, sales, ... it uses 
the UoM defined on the related product.


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