Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye
DAVEH: Likewise, I have very much appreciated our exchanges, DavidM. I want to thank you for inviting me to join TT, as it has been a big part of my life for the past 5 years or so. I also sincerely appreciate your prayers, and I believe that the Lord is answering them, though I don't think he has answered them quite as you might expect. I have very much enjoyed being a guest on TT, and for the friends I've made here. Hopefully I'll hear from some of you again someday. Hm...if anybody starts up another forum. :-) May God bless you all! Cheerio.Dave Hansen David Miller wrote: Thank you Dave for many years of dialogue and for the several books you have sent me in the past. I will not forget you. I will continue to pray for you. Surely you are ingrained in your religion and your relationships in your religion will likely keep you there, but I will continue to pray that the Lord open your eyes to the true nature of his church. David Miller -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Mentoring
Maybe then you could tell us about the men that Mentored you?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:This, of course, is not the truth. You already know what I do. Now, because your memory is no longer than your brain stem means nothing to me. You ask only to cause trouble. But go tothe archives and look it up. The bean count still belongs to the Lord. jd-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only compare because we all know you do nothing. That is why you can't say anything.No one is trying to draw attention to themselves just trying to draw attention to one who talks a big talk then when called on it backs down because that is what it is JUST TALK. 0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Christ's mentoring is what made the 12 apostles the force they were. Let's see-- that's 12 divided by three (years) and a 100 years later , they tell me there was somewhere around 6 million Christians. But make fun of it if you will. Part of mentoring (read:discipleship) is the giving up of self. It is the carnal mind that makes a game out of sharing the gospel and comparing "success" landmarks. It is Christ's example that really matters, here -- not mine nor yours. the comparisons have been made. You ignored them then -- you would do soagain if agreed to play this very immature game. What shall we call this game? "My Sword is bigger than yours?" If we are to pray in our closets -- surely our ministries are not for the purpose of attracting attention to self. I will pray that you move away from self as you continue doing what every you do "for the Lord." After all -- the head count belongs to the Lord for He is the one who adds to His assemblage. jd-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] You Mentor but have No one that you have mentored. Impressive. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:maybe God is trying to tell you something, Kevin. The "x" in the box is probably not what you had in mind. jd-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
[TruthTalk] Goodbye
My it is awfully quiet this morning;I don't even see anything from Lance (the early bird) Have been busy over the weekend so have not had much time tothink about goodbyes. Our son and DIL are building a house at the back of us - also we are involved daily with our daughter in TX who is presently in the midst of an ongoingcrisis. I would like to thank all of you for sharing yourselves on the TT List. I think I have learned in some way from everyone, though possibly not in the ways you or I would have thought. For me, TT has been a learning experience and I am thankful that DavidM rescued me from the legalistic Homechurch List where we met. David you and your family have been a real encouragement in the Lord. I took me a while to get to know each Listmember. My ideas regarding Street Preaching have changed and I have enjoyed Kevin and Dean so much. I am glad to know they are out there along with DM and Christine Miller. Just this morning I read 1 Kings 14:24 regarding the mess Judah was in after Solomon "and there were also sodomites in the land and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel" so theirs istruly a labor of love. Thank you Iz for sharing yourself, your pilgrimage, and your family with us. I wanted to share some photos but haven't had time to look for one to compete with JD and Gary :) Lance, I have to say that I was often surprised that you hung in there - We never did agree but I do appreciate the kind words you spoke on occasion; they tell me that you did not take what I wrote personally which is good. I am not angry with any person per se and have found everything interesting, even Dave Hanson's contributions in the historical or cultural sense (see your inputLance :) but when I came to TT I was and am stillfrustrated by dead orthodoxy andtheologies or menbecause they are powerless and I so want to see Jesus on the scene. There are more than 500 families in the church we attend and so many hurting ppl that the new counseling pastor is swamped they are calling him all hours of the day and night and he doesn't have time for his family. The teaching pastor is just back from spending a week in London and yesterday he shared how on the flight over there was a rape on the TV's on either side of him and when his wife turned hers on there was an adulterous affair on it. He then told ushow overwhelmed he was by Westminster Abbey where the Westminster Confession was put together and All Souls Church where John Stott whose writings have affected him so much pastored.. that's all well and good and I'm glad for him but on the way homeI told my husband that the effecthis sermon had on me was to make me want to go to London - but not for the same reasons. It did not make me hunger for more of Jesus. I long for God's Word to be exalted with great plainness of speech so that we will see His results with lives changed and health and peace among the people. I pray you will all grow in grace and in the knowledge of Him and that we will have opportunity to meet again. God Bless You All judyt in Suffolk VA
Re: [TruthTalk] Goodbye
My mother awoke yesterday for 5 minutes to find herself surrounded by children, grandchildren and, even a great-grandchild. I wish the same for you, Judy and, for all TT participants. Lance - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 27, 2006 07:41 Subject: [TruthTalk] Goodbye My it is awfully quiet this morning;I don't even see anything from Lance (the early bird) Have been busy over the weekend so have not had much time tothink about goodbyes. Our son and DIL are building a house at the back of us - also we are involved daily with our daughter in TX who is presently in the midst of an ongoingcrisis. I would like to thank all of you for sharing yourselves on the TT List. I think I have learned in some way from everyone, though possibly not in the ways you or I would have thought. For me, TT has been a learning experience and I am thankful that DavidM rescued me from the legalistic Homechurch List where we met. David you and your family have been a real encouragement in the Lord. I took me a while to get to know each Listmember. My ideas regarding Street Preaching have changed and I have enjoyed Kevin and Dean so much. I am glad to know they are out there along with DM and Christine Miller. Just this morning I read 1 Kings 14:24 regarding the mess Judah was in after Solomon "and there were also sodomites in the land and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel" so theirs istruly a labor of love. Thank you Iz for sharing yourself, your pilgrimage, and your family with us. I wanted to share some photos but haven't had time to look for one to compete with JD and Gary :) Lance, I have to say that I was often surprised that you hung in there - We never did agree but I do appreciate the kind words you spoke on occasion; they tell me that you did not take what I wrote personally which is good. I am not angry with any person per se and have found everything interesting, even Dave Hanson's contributions in the historical or cultural sense (see your inputLance :) but when I came to TT I was and am stillfrustrated by dead orthodoxy andtheologies or menbecause they are powerless and I so want to see Jesus on the scene. There are more than 500 families in the church we attend and so many hurting ppl that the new counseling pastor is swamped they are calling him all hours of the day and night and he doesn't have time for his family. The teaching pastor is just back from spending a week in London and yesterday he shared how on the flight over there was a rape on the TV's on either side of him and when his wife turned hers on there was an adulterous affair on it. He then told ushow overwhelmed he was by Westminster Abbey where the Westminster Confession was put together and All Souls Church where John Stott whose writings have affected him so much pastored.. that's all well and good and I'm glad for him but on the way homeI told my husband that the effecthis sermon had on me was to make me want to go to London - but not for the same reasons. It did not make me hunger for more of Jesus. I long for God's Word to be exalted with great plainness of speech so that we will see His results with lives changed and health and peace among the people. I pray you will all grow in grace and in the knowledge of Him and that we will have opportunity to meet again. God Bless You All judyt in Suffolk VA
Re: [TruthTalk] Mentoring and See Ya
Some you know as members of TT. Others have been named. And still others will remain unnamed -- people who would have no meaning to you. Not to be left out of the mix are Christ and Paul..in that order. Christ the author and finisher. Paul - the patient and courageous theologian. The mediation of the revelation of Christ continues to this day, but certainly , Paul is the beginning of this mediation.Christianity would be exactly as it is now, without Paul,and we can say amen to this if we believe that Christianity is what it is today by the design and will of God in Christ . if not Pual, then there would be another. And so, you will know what I do not mean to say when I write these words, "I cannot imagine what The Faith would be likeapart from Paul's contribution." All that I consider "mentoring" centers around the teachings of Christ , personally, and as He revealed them to Paul and the others. Everything. What is noteworthy about that statement is this: my appreciation of these last two is no different in my life than for any on TruthTalk. Salute to you all. No time remaining for new discussions. John David Smithson Out !!! -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe then you could tell us about the men that Mentored you?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This, of course, is not the truth. You already know what I do. Now, because your memory is no longer than your brain stem means nothing to me. You ask only to cause trouble. But go tothe archives and look it up. The bean count still belongs to the Lord. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only compare because we all know you do nothing. That is why you can't say anything.No one is trying to draw attention to themselves just trying to draw attention to one who talks a big talk then when called on it backs down because that is what it is JUST TALK. 0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ's mentoring is what made the 12 apostles the force they were. Let's see-- that's 12 divided by three (years) and a 100 years later , they tell me there was somewhere around 6 million Christians. But make fun of it if you will. Part of mentoring (read:discipleship) is the giving up of self. It is the carnal mind that makes a game out of sharing the gospel and comparing "success" landmarks. It is Christ's example that really matters, here -- not mine nor yours. the comparisons have been made. You ignored them then -- you would do soagain if agreed to play this very immature game. What shall we call this game? "My Sword is bigger than yours?" If we are to pray in our closets -- surely our ministries are not for the purpose of attracting attention to self. I will pray that you move away from self as you continue doing what every you do "for the Lord." After all -- the head count belongs to the Lord for He is the one who adds to His assemblage. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] You Mentor but have No one that you have mentored. Impressive. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe God is trying to tell you something, Kevin. The "x" in the box is probably not what you had in mind. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye
Continuing with my farewell impressions... There have been some past members of TruthTalk that deserve mention. Slade and Kay Henson as well as their friend Jeff Powers were always pointing us toward our Hebraic roots. It was an interesting blend of traditionalism in regards to the written word of Scripture and yet liberal social philosophy. Kay's interest in social reform and her work with the messed up children's legal system in Florida will remain in my prayers. Glenn Tabor will be remembered for his passion toward basic foundations of Christianity. Glenn had a knack for bringing out a lot of discussion from people who differed from him. He always carried a pastor's care for everyone on the list, yet he was zealous toward ideology that conformed to traditional Christian beliefs. Laura Hamm likewise will be remembered in my heart as someone who stimulated thinking and was not afraid to jump into waters unknown. She had an ability to hear and seemed very able to represent the foot washing Baptists from time to time. Michael Douglas will always be close to my heart as a firm believer to communing with the Lord in prayer. His dialogue about praying against storms and calamities will not easily be forgotten. He brought to the forum practical considerations for the spiritually inclined. Michael was not content with ideology and philosophy, but ulitmately concerned with where the rubber meets the road in spiritual matters. His life of faith will always be a constant inspiration to my spirit. Jonathan Hughes will be remembered as a passionate person for truth without any fluff. Ideologically on the other side from me, his challenges to my mindset and working philosophical paradigms encouraged and promoted thinking. Caroline Wong will be remembered for being well informed and able to raise issues that I would typically otherwise consider mundane. Terry Clifton will always have a special place in my heart. In many ways, when he was here, he was the resident TruthTalk elder. He served as a conservative anchor, always the calm voice of reason when things became tumultuous. Terry had a knack for being understanding yet unswayed away from the Biblical no-nonsense perspective of truth. More to come later... David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye
Continuing with my farewell impressions... Although John Smithson is a rather emotional person with whom I have butted heads concerning over-generalizations and stereotypic expressions, I have appreciated John's keen interest in theology and philosophy. He has ventured into areas which others on TruthTalk would not. By doing so, John has opened up avenues of thought and reflection which would otherwise have been stagnant. John was never afraid of a good brawl and often moved topics on TruthTalk into fisticuffs. I appreciated such opportunities as a way to dig deeper into issues, furthering a reductionistic method of breaking down subjects into smaller parts for analysis. I will always have fond thoughts about his passion for issues that were usually on the periphery of my thinking. Kevin Deegan has been a great contributor, always great with links and information about almost any issue. Kevin's breath of reading comes across loud and clear, but more than just being well read, he has expressed a passion for truth. He takes a hard line stance that is helpful to others willing to give a thorough study of a particular issue. While Kevin is quick to quip, he also exhibits a patience to keep ploughing along with difficult subjects. I think I will remember Kevin's patience more than the actual information he has posted. May God grant me the ability to stick with it like Kevin does, to present God's truth, despite what the detractors might offer. I also cannot sign off without mentioning my admiration for Kevin's sacrifice and diligence toward preaching the Word of God to those outside the churches of Jesus Christ. Such will always continue to inspire me. Carroll Dean Moore will be best remembered for his no-nonsense seriousness with which he approaches life and the Word of God. I will remember Dean's passion and loyalty toward what he perceives to be the right path. When I think of Dean, I tend to remember the passage from 1 Peter 5:8, Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour. Thank you Dean. Ruben Israel Chavez will be remembered for his always uplifting preaching reports. I stand in awe of the sacrifice he makes as he travels around the country and the world, preaching the Truth of Christ to those who are unchurched. Ruben also has taken time to joust with us from time to time, and to explain his thinking about issues of importance. Ruben is a constant model of being a preacher of the Word and not just a student. Such will always be in my mind. Charles Perry Locke has been a gentlemen among gentlemen. He is passionate about truth and at the same time well mannered and filled with common sense I appreciate Perry's sacrifice in helping moderate the list for a long time. In posts, he has perhaps been among the most patient. When I have been very dense in hearing him on a point, he would take the time to spell it out clearly until I got it. Many others would have simply made fun of me and gone on to other issues. Not Perry. I will always cherish his longsuffering and clear, logical mind. Gary Ottoson... I will always remember him as Mr. Abbreviation. Gary's presence has raised the intellectual level a notch or two on TruthTalk. While many of his posts were difficult to decipher for some, and nearly impossible for the uneducated, he did at times come up with gems that provoked further discussion. Gary was a constant reminder to TruthTalk that poets have something to say among those who wish to talk about truth. Gary also has a steadfastness to him that has been inspirational. Judy Taylor has been a rock for the unadulterated truth. Her adherence to Scripture without any contamination from the thoughts of men will always be in the back of my mind. In my tendency toward curiosity about many ideas and subjects, Judy has been that firm but gentle reminder of where my feet need to be firmly planted. Her strength of character and great love for God has been an inspiration for me, and will continue to be an inspiration to me for years to come. One cannot come into contact with such a person and not remember her when times of trials and persecution come because of the Word of God. Thank you Judy for being Judy. You are greatly loved. Linda Shields, well, Linda is Izzy... a fiesty cat. I have learned to appreciate her passion and independence of spirit. In a day when many Christians are generally somewhat reticent to declare political affiliations, Linda would boldly proclaim her Republican affiliation as quickly as she would her love for Jesus Christ. She often shared interesting articles and established points that were overlooked by her detractors but heard by others. Linda often tag teamed with Judy as if in a wrestling tournament. Linda's adherence to truth despite what others say has been encouraging and helpful in the dialectic that
RE: [TruthTalk] More Goodbyes from our house to yours
Thank you so much for the photos of your beautiful self and family. I agree with JD; our kids outdo us to the max! I cant help crying right now, realizing that this is really goodbye. I dearly love you all, Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:37 AM To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] More Goodbyes from our house to yours Just had to get into the images if only a little - judyt
RE: [TruthTalk] More Goodbyes from our house to yours
Write with special thoughts and "whats happenin" amy time. God Bless. -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you so much for the photos of your beautiful self and family. I agree with JD; our kids outdo us to the max! I cant help crying right now, realizing that this is really goodbye. I dearly love you all, Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:37 AMTo: truthtalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: [TruthTalk] More Goodbyes from our house to yours Just had to get into the images if only a little - judyt
[TruthTalk] Saying Goodbye
Thank you for these thoughts David; you seem to have apprehended everyone's specialness. I am, like Iz, already missing everyone even before the Lists final demise - after all I did spend many a day with all of you and you will be missed I'll need to get used to coffee without Lance now... Thanks Lance for the update re your Mom. judyt From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Continuing with my farewell impressions... Although John Smithson is a rather emotional person with whom I have butted heads concerning over-generalizations and stereotypic expressions, I have appreciated John's keen interest in theology and philosophy. He has ventured into areas which others on TruthTalk would not. By doing so, John has opened up avenues of thought and reflection which would otherwise have been stagnant. John was never afraid of a good brawl and often moved topics on TruthTalk into fisticuffs. I appreciated such opportunities as a way to dig deeper into issues, furthering a reductionistic method of breaking down subjects into smaller parts for analysis. I will always have fond thoughts about his passion for issues that were usually on the periphery of my thinking. Kevin Deegan has been a great contributor, always great with links and information about almost any issue. Kevin's breath of reading comes across loud and clear, but more than just being well read, he has expressed a passion for truth. He takes a hard line stance that is helpful to others willing to give a thorough study of a particular issue. While Kevin is quick to quip, he also exhibits a patience to keep ploughing along with difficult subjects. I think I will remember Kevin's patience more than the actual information he has posted. May God grant me the ability to stick with it like Kevin does, to present God's truth, despite what the detractors might offer. I also cannot sign off without mentioning my admiration for Kevin's sacrifice and diligence toward preaching the Word of God to those outside the churches of Jesus Christ. Such will always continue to inspire me. Carroll Dean Moore will be best remembered for his no-nonsense seriousness with which he approaches life and the Word of God. I will remember Dean's passion and loyalty toward what he perceives to be the right path. When I think of Dean, I tend to remember the passage from 1 Peter 5:8, "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour." Thank you Dean. Ruben Israel Chavez will be remembered for his always uplifting preaching reports. I stand in awe of the sacrifice he makes as he travels around the country and the world, preaching the Truth of Christ to those who are unchurched. Ruben also has taken time to joust with us from time to time, and to explain his thinking about issues of importance. Ruben is a constant model of being a preacher of the Word and not just a student. Such will always be in my mind. Charles Perry Locke has been a gentlemen among gentlemen. He is passionate about truth and at the same time well mannered and filled with common sense I appreciate Perry's sacrifice in helping moderate the list for a long time. In posts, he has perhaps been among the most patient. When I have been very dense in hearing him on a point, he would take the time to spell it out clearly until I got it. Many others would have simply made fun of me and gone on to other issues. Not Perry. I will always cherish his longsuffering and clear, logical mind. Gary Ottoson... I will always remember him as Mr. Abbreviation. Gary's presence has raised the intellectual level a notch or two on TruthTalk. While many of his posts were difficult to decipher for some, and nearly impossible for the uneducated, he did at times come up with gems that provoked further discussion. Gary was a constant reminder to TruthTalk that poets have something to say among those who wish to talk about truth. Gary also has a steadfastness to him that has been inspirational. Judy Taylor has been a rock for the unadulterated truth. Her adherence to Scripture without any contamination from the thoughts of men will always be in the back of my mind. In my tendency toward curiosity about many ideas and subjects, Judy has been that firm but gentle reminder of where my feet need to be firmly planted. Her strength of character and great love for God has been an inspiration for me, and will continue to be an inspiration to me for years to come. One cannot come into contact with such a person and not remember her when times of trials and persecution come because of the Word of God. Thank you Judy for being Judy. You are greatly loved. Linda Shields, well, Linda is Izzy... a fiesty cat. I have learned to appreciate her passion and independence of spirit. In a day when many Christians are generally somewhat reticent to declare political affiliations, Linda would boldly proclaim her Republican
Re: [TruthTalk] TT w/o a moderator
David,Since TT has been w/o a Moderator, it seems to have done just fine. Why not just keep the list up w/o one?Breaking up is just so hard to do. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates.
Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
interesting --perhapswhile yer curled upfondlingmyow myow,try to juxtapose your inadvertant underlying insightto the real point: "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're financing')]" ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..Wal-Mart? ..they dont pay enough or give enough benefits to those POOR people who work there so SAD!
Re: [TruthTalk] TT w/o a moderator
interesting On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:06:54 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || TT..w/o a Moderator..[has] done just fine.. ||
Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
.. it ain't that prettyat all On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're financing')]"
[TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...
I just wanted to say one last time that it has been such a joy getting to know you all. I praise God for your wisdom and passion. Here's a picture of me grinning ear-to-ear with my mom on Broadway a couple of months ago. My father babysat all of my sisters back home while we two girls painted the town red! I love you all. -Christine Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min.
Re: [TruthTalk] Broken Cisterns
Broken CisternsJeremiah 2:13 saysFor my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns that can hold no water.Jesus promises that "whosoever drinketh of the water that i shall give him shall never thirst." Jesus is that living water, and he provides the way, the truth and the life. His water is life itself. Eternal life in heaven WITH Jesus and victory on Earth IN Jesus. Christian, are you in victory? Or are you still drinking from broken cisterns?Let us lay aside every weight, and the sin that doth so easily beset us and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, LOOKING UNTO JESUS the author and finisher of our faith(Hebrews 12:1-2)Are you looking unto JESUS? Or are you Weighed down still? (Turn your TV off, perhaps.) Turn your eyes upon Jesus.And for now, check out some Charles Spurgeon. (while keeping your eyes on Jesus still!) (if you can walk and chew gum at the same time, I think you can grasp that!)The famous preacher, Charles Spurgeon once wrote: "Men are in a restless pursuit after satisfaction in earthly things. They will exhaust themselves in the deceitful delights of sin, and, finding them all to be vanity and emptiness, they will become very perplexed and disappointed. But they will still continue their fruitless search."Though wearied, they still stagger forward under the influence of spiritual madness, and though there is no result to be reached except that of everlasting disappointment, yet they press forward. They have no forethought for their eternal state; the present hour absorbs them. They turn to another and another of earth's broken cisterns, hoping to find water where not a drop was ever discovered yet.An anonymous student adds, "Madness is an apt description of the continual pursuit of feeding the flesh, is it not? I once heard someone say that the definition of insanity is to continually do the same thing over and over expecting different results each time. Is that not what we did in our days in Egypt? Did we not continue to look back to being in slavery, feeling guilty and unfulfilled every single time, yet thinking that maybe the next attempt would fill up the emptiness inside us? I know that's what I did for years and it truly was madness to think I could find true lasting satisfaction in this way." If you have always been in victory, Praise God! If you used to be in victory, return to GOD. If you never had the victory, get a hold of GODKeep reaching for the victory!FYI, Remember why it's important to have a clean testimony! "But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them"..."The harvest truly is plenteous but the labourers are few.'" ---Matthew 9:36-37Jesus came to seek and save that which was lost. No one can serve two masters. Are you bowing to Jesus Christ, or the god of this world? Do you love the things that God loves (his word, his people, sharing his truths, righteousness, preaching the gospel, teaching all nations) or do you love the patterns of this world? (is GOD your hobby and hobbies your god? Pro sports, things, consumerism, the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh and the pride of life.) What drives you? What controls you? What moves you? What excites you? My prayer is that all of us will be able to honestly say JESUS CHRIST! Serving GOD! Reaching the LOST! It's hard to have compassion when we are in bondage to sin. It's hard to want to see people saved when we are yielded to the devil. It's hard to hear the voice of God when we listen to the cravings of the flesh.We don't need to be perfect, but a Christian should progressively want to move toward the light. If you are in regular sin, and aren't bothered by it, what makes you think you are saved? If you are not in sin, and aren't witnessing and don't have a burden for the lost, what makes you think you are saved?It's time to do more for God. My heart breaks when I see us not broken over lost souls, when I see us not broken over how many see salvation as a license to sin. God will not be mocked. Please search your hearts, please seek his face, and please humble yourself and cry out to him to set you on fire, and to use you while there's still time left.March is almost over, 2006 is 25% down, and life is but a vapor. Time is Marching on and we lose an hour next week. Resurrection Sunday is coming up, when Jesus rose from the dead DEFEATING DEATH. God's love of the word and his hatred of sin met in one supreme divine moment. Spring is now on us, a time of renewal. The days will shine brighter---will our lives shine brighter as well??? Let's make today the day to get right with God. Let's admit we are lukewarm, let's admit that we have forsaken our first love, let's admit we've forgotten what it was like when we first were saved. Amen? Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..perhapswhile yer curled upfondlingmyow myow.. ..re-consideryour role in repentance,even somerock starsaren't adverse to it, e.g., "_sitting_ under my blue sky of deceptionthe colors run every time it rainswrought brought forth fashioned from inceptionmy own hands and i take all the blame refrain: as the light goes outdarkness with her bated breathwaits out on periphery of the camp firedecadence and violence we do best burned out face down in the gutterlowest point i could find to ground zeroroll back alibis and skies are crushingdo we paint with much too black a brush rock and roll what is it any moreyouth profound or profane to endurepassion in the back seat or at the foot of the crossgoing going gone and finally lost" Bill Mallonee (BMI) ©1997
Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. it ain't that prettyat all On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: .. "Tweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee DeeThey're throwing knives into the treeTwo big bags of dead man's bonesGot their noses to the grindstones Living in the Land of NodTrustin' their fate to the Hands of GodThey pass by so silentlyTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee Dee Well, they're going to the country, they're gonna retireThey're taking a streetcar named DesireLooking in the window at the pecan pieLot of things they'd like they would never buy Neither one gonna turn and runThey're making a voyage to the sun"His Master's voice is calling me,"Says Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee Dee Tweedle-dee Dee and Tweedle-dee DumAll that and more and then someThey walk among the stately treesThey know the secrets of the breeze Tweedle-dee Dum said to Tweedle-dee Dee"Your presence is obnoxious to me."They're like babies sittin' on a woman's kneeTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee Dee Well, the rain beating down on my windowpaneI got love for you and it's all in vainBrains in the pot, they're beginning to boilThey're dripping with garlic and olive oil Tweedle-dee Dee - he's on his hands and his kneesSaying, "Throw me somethin', Mister, please.""What's good for you is good for me,"Says Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee Dee Well, they're living in a happy harmonyTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee DeeThey're one day older and a dollar shortThey've got a parade permit and a police escort They're lying low and they're makin' hayThey seem determined to go all the wayThey run a brick and tile companyTweedle-dee Dum and Tweedle-dee Dee Well a childish dream is a deathless needAnd a noble truth is a sacred creedMy pretty baby, she's lookin' aroundShe's wearin' a multi-thousand dollar gown Tweedle-dee Dee is a lowdown, sorry old manTweedle-dee Dum, he'll stab you where you stand"I've had too much of your company,"Says, Tweedle-dee Dum to Tweedle-dee Dee" B Dylan :: Copyright © 2001 Special Rider Music
Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
ftr, particDaveH--* = an influentialphrase (to me)fromthe title of a Warren Zevon song,the best rendition of it iv'e heardby the Pixies with Zevon's son Jordanafter Warren's relatively recent death--on the Zevon post-mortemCD 'Enjoy Every Sandwich' (indeed:) On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:55:51 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * .. it ain't that prettyat all
Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...
the pic isn't visible here, any chance you'd re-send it as an attachment to an email? thx On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just wanted to say one last time that it has been such a joy getting to know you all. I praise God for your wisdom and passion. Here's a picture of me grinning ear-to-ear with my mom on Broadway a couple of months ago. My father babysat all of my sisters back home while we two girls painted the town red! I love you all. -Christine Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...
Christine, I can't see the picture - Must be my Norton spam blocker or something, is there another way you could send it? Have really enjoyed you. Thanks for beinga blessing to us on TT - judyt On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just wanted to say one last time that it has been such a joy getting to know you all. I praise God for your wisdom and passion. Here's a picture of me grinning ear-to-ear with my mom on Broadway a couple of months ago. My father babysat all of my sisters back home while we two girls painted the town red! I love you all. -Christine Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...
Ditto Judy's comments from me jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christine, I can't see the picture - Must be my Norton spam blocker or something, is there another way you could send it? Have really enjoyed you. Thanks for beinga blessing to us on TT - judyt On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just wanted to say one last time that it has been such a joy getting to know you all. I praise God for your wisdom and passion. Here's a picture of me grinning ear-to-ear with my mom on Broadway a couple of months ago. My father babysat all of my sisters back home while we two girls painted the town red! I love you all. -Christine Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...
well, if you all are going to quit because I came on line -- I'll just lurk. jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ditto Judy's comments from me jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christine, I can't see the picture - Must be my Norton spam blocker or something, is there another way you could send it? Have really enjoyed you. Thanks for beinga blessing to us on TT - judyt On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:45:37 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just wanted to say one last time that it has been such a joy getting to know you all. I praise God for your wisdom and passion. Here's a picture of me grinning ear-to-ear with my mom on Broadway a couple of months ago. My father babysat all of my sisters back home while we two girls painted the town red! I love you all. -Christine Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Re: [TruthTalk] I Hope I'm Not too Late...
(lol) On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:32:20 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: well, if you all are going to quit because I came on line -- I'll just lurk. jd ||
