Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-20 Thread Fabio Onorini
No one uses the rules in outlook?


2013/8/19 Fabio Onorini onofa...@gmail.com

 With google search I find:

 Whether or not a rule will be a server-side or client-side rule depends
 on the actions, conditions and exceptions that are selected in the message.

 When the rule contains an action or condition/exception that can only be
 performed by Outlook, then the rule turns into a client-side rule. If this
 action/condition/exception is also dependent on a specific configuration of
 Outlook then the rule will get the “on this machine only” condition as
 well.

 And move to folder action is server side rule condition.

 So I can't choose rules type.

 My pc is not joined to the domain, this can be the problem?


 2013/8/19 Szládovics Péter p...@szladovics.hu

 2013-08-19 16:31 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

 I did not choose the type rule.
 I have outlook configured to communicate with a server exchange (sogo +
 OpenChange) and when I create a rule this is completely lost when saved.

 I understand that creating a script sieve, the filter works on the
 server side, but if a user only uses outlook how he can create rules?
 It seems that outlook not saved locally in Exchange configuration.


 Outlook side rules always stored on outlook side (in user's profile). If
 you have any problem with it, it isn't sogo problem.
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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-20 Thread Szládovics Péter

2013-08-19 17:42 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

With google search I find:

Whether or not a rule will be a server-side or client-side rule 
depends on the actions, conditions and exceptions that are selected in 
the message.


When the rule contains an action or condition/exception that can only 
be performed by Outlook, then the rule turns into a client-side rule. 
If this action/condition/exception is also dependent on a specific 
configuration of Outlook then the rule will get the “on this machine 
only” condition as well.


And move to folder action is server side rule condition.

So I can't choose rules type.



Did the outlook warn you about the rule is client side?
If yes: The rule is client side, and will be saved.
If no: The rule is server side, and won't be saved if sogo not support 
it (I think is not supported at the moment independent of the sieve 
settings).


So. When I asked you about the side of rule, I exactly thinked above. 
Sorry for misanderstanding.



My pc is not joined to the domain, this can be the problem?



No, it's irrelevant.
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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-20 Thread Fabio Onorini
Outlook doesn't warn me that is a client-side rule.
Move to folder action seem a server side action, and cover 99% of my
users rules...

With this in mind, at this moment I can't create that type of rules!

Sogo will support server side rules from outlook?



2013/8/20 Szládovics Péter p...@szladovics.hu

  2013-08-19 17:42 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

 With google search I find:

  Whether or not a rule will be a server-side or client-side rule depends
 on the actions, conditions and exceptions that are selected in the message.

 When the rule contains an action or condition/exception that can only be
 performed by Outlook, then the rule turns into a client-side rule. If this
 action/condition/exception is also dependent on a specific configuration of
 Outlook then the rule will get the “on this machine only” condition as
 well.

 And move to folder action is server side rule condition.

 So I can't choose rules type.


 Did the outlook warn you about the rule is client side?
 If yes: The rule is client side, and will be saved.
 If no: The rule is server side, and won't be saved if sogo not support it
 (I think is not supported at the moment independent of the sieve settings).

 So. When I asked you about the side of rule, I exactly thinked above.
 Sorry for misanderstanding.

  My pc is not joined to the domain, this can be the problem?


 No, it's irrelevant.




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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-20 Thread Szládovics Péter

2013-08-20 13:52 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

Outlook doesn't warn me that is a client-side rule.
Move to folder action seem a server side action, and cover 99% of my 
users rules...


With this in mind, at this moment I can't create that type of rules!


I'm afraid of, it's true.
But the server/client side storing does not depend only the action. This 
depends the conditions too, cause some conditions there are only in 
client side. ;)



Sogo will support server side rules from outlook?


I don't know.

2013/8/20 Szládovics Péter p...@szladovics.hu 
mailto:p...@szladovics.hu


2013-08-19 17:42 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

With google search I find:

Whether or not a rule will be a server-side or client-side rule
depends on the actions, conditions and exceptions that are
selected in the message.

When the rule contains an action or condition/exception that can
only be performed by Outlook, then the rule turns into a
client-side rule. If this action/condition/exception is also
dependent on a specific configuration of Outlook then the rule
will get the “on this machine only” condition as well.

And move to folder action is server side rule condition.

So I can't choose rules type.



Did the outlook warn you about the rule is client side?
If yes: The rule is client side, and will be saved.
If no: The rule is server side, and won't be saved if sogo not
support it (I think is not supported at the moment independent of
the sieve settings).

So. When I asked you about the side of rule, I exactly thinked
above. Sorry for misanderstanding.


My pc is not joined to the domain, this can be the problem?



No, it's irrelevant.




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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-20 Thread Davide Bozzelli

Il 8/20/13 1:52 PM, Fabio Onorini ha scritto:

Outlook doesn't warn me that is a client-side rule.
Move to folder action seem a server side action, and cover 99% of my 
users rules...


With this in mind, at this moment I can't create that type of rules!

Sogo will support server side rules from outlook?



Try to ask Does sogo supports servers side exchange like rules ?.
I'm afraid no: actually sogo supports only sieve server side rules.

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[SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-19 Thread Fabio Onorini
Hi sogo users,
when I create a rule in outlook for mail filter, I lose setting after
window closing.

Where outlook save this rules?

Can sogo+openchange save this settings?


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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-19 Thread Szládovics Péter

2013-08-19 14:02 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

Hi sogo users,
when I create a rule in outlook for mail filter, I lose setting after 
window closing.


Where outlook save this rules?


Which type of rule did you create? Server side or Outlook side?
Outlook with openchange backend won't store your server side rules, you 
can create them only outlook side.


Unfortunately, if you see your mails through other than outlook (and 
your outlook is not running), these rules won't run, and won't be working.
I think you really need the server side rules - they are independent 
from any mail client.



Can sogo+openchange save this settings?


Through outlook no, but through SOGo's webmail backend yes - if you 
previously installed and set up the sieve component for your imap 
server. Use it.

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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-19 Thread Fabio Onorini
I did not choose the type rule.
I have outlook configured to communicate with a server exchange (sogo +
OpenChange) and when I create a rule this is completely lost when saved.

I understand that creating a script sieve, the filter works on the server
side, but if a user only uses outlook how he can create rules?
It seems that outlook not saved locally in Exchange configuration.


2013/8/19 Szládovics Péter p...@szladovics.hu

 2013-08-19 14:02 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

 Hi sogo users,
 when I create a rule in outlook for mail filter, I lose setting after
 window closing.

 Where outlook save this rules?


 Which type of rule did you create? Server side or Outlook side?
 Outlook with openchange backend won't store your server side rules, you
 can create them only outlook side.

 Unfortunately, if you see your mails through other than outlook (and your
 outlook is not running), these rules won't run, and won't be working.
 I think you really need the server side rules - they are independent from
 any mail client.

  Can sogo+openchange save this settings?


 Through outlook no, but through SOGo's webmail backend yes - if you
 previously installed and set up the sieve component for your imap server.
 Use it.
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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-19 Thread Szládovics Péter

2013-08-19 16:31 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

I did not choose the type rule.
I have outlook configured to communicate with a server exchange (sogo 
+ OpenChange) and when I create a rule this is completely lost when saved.


I understand that creating a script sieve, the filter works on the 
server side, but if a user only uses outlook how he can create rules?

It seems that outlook not saved locally in Exchange configuration.


Outlook side rules always stored on outlook side (in user's profile). If 
you have any problem with it, it isn't sogo problem.

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Re: [SOGo] Outlook and rules

2013-08-19 Thread Fabio Onorini
With google search I find:

Whether or not a rule will be a server-side or client-side rule depends on
the actions, conditions and exceptions that are selected in the message.

When the rule contains an action or condition/exception that can only be
performed by Outlook, then the rule turns into a client-side rule. If this
action/condition/exception is also dependent on a specific configuration of
Outlook then the rule will get the “on this machine only” condition as
well.

And move to folder action is server side rule condition.

So I can't choose rules type.

My pc is not joined to the domain, this can be the problem?


2013/8/19 Szládovics Péter p...@szladovics.hu

 2013-08-19 16:31 keltezéssel, Fabio Onorini írta:

 I did not choose the type rule.
 I have outlook configured to communicate with a server exchange (sogo +
 OpenChange) and when I create a rule this is completely lost when saved.

 I understand that creating a script sieve, the filter works on the server
 side, but if a user only uses outlook how he can create rules?
 It seems that outlook not saved locally in Exchange configuration.


 Outlook side rules always stored on outlook side (in user's profile). If
 you have any problem with it, it isn't sogo problem.
 --
 users@sogo.nu
 https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists




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