RE: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?
Axil: What do you think 'quantum fluctuations' are? According to present-day understanding of what is called the vacuum state or the quantum vacuum, it is by no means a simple empty space, and again: it is a mistake to think of any physical vacuum as some absolutely empty void. According to quantum mechanics, the vacuum state is not truly empty but instead contains fleeting electromagnetic waves and particles that pop into and out of existence. How does one know that the 'low frequency' fluctuations aren't the much lower beat frequency of two or more quantum fluctuations which are at much higher frequencies? Folks, show me an instrument that can measure frequencies of 10^-23 or faster??? Doesn't exist. yet. Is there any wonder why quantum theory is based on probabilities??? I think it's obvious why that is the case.. -mi From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:26 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.027202 The Casimir force arises because of quantum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field in the space between two conducting plates. The Drude model predicts that low-frequency fluctuations play no role in the Casimir force and are due to an electrostatic force coming from electrical potential differences on the membrane surface. If the either can be framed in terms of and all pervasive electromagnetic field throughout space, is that what these other names are describing? Cheers:Axil On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:47 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this. I think that's what the zero-point field and Casimir effect is all about. just because this generation chooses to call it by a different name doesn't mean it's different. -Mark Iverson From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:23 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: As I have suggested in the past, the only way this could work is if momentum is imparted to the vacuum itself, i.e. to the universe as a whole, thus allowing momentum to be conserved. Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this. Eric
[Vo]:FYI: A New Model for Matter, Space and Energy
A New Model for Matter, Space and Energy M.A.B.Garstin http://ac.els-cdn.com/S1875389211005840/1-s2.0-S1875389211005840-main.pdf?_t id=09140c0f61853b7ddf72a6b29eb042d9 http://ac.els-cdn.com/S1875389211005840/1-s2.0-S1875389211005840-main.pdf?_ tid=09140c0f61853b7ddf72a6b29eb042d9acdnat=1343283300_61e97956a2f724088c92f bbf257c125f acdnat=1343283300_61e97956a2f724088c92fbbf257c125f --- Quoting from his Intro Substituting in the energy of a proton for E in equation (2) the approximate frequency of a proton, therefore, is 2.27012x10^23Hz. The interesting coincidence is the fact that this frequency is only a factor of 4.7 times the upper limit of isotropic gamma radiation. In other words, the electromagnetic spectrum spans 22 orders of magnitude from 0 Hz up to its upper limit, and then within less than half a magnitude above that frequency the equivalent frequency of the *first element appears* (assuming the accuracy and meaning of Planck's constant h). But in order to raise this interesting coincidence up to an intriguing coincidence, one only needs to convert the frequency of a proton into a wavelength. Equation (3) shows that the wavelength of the frequency of a proton is 1.32060fm. But the equation that approximates the nuclear radius of an atom based on its mass number A is equation did not translate. Where R is the nuclear radius and r0= 1.2. For a single proton this yields an approximate radius of 1.2fm, a difference of only 10%. In other words, there appears to be a rather strong correlation between the mass and radius of a proton and the upper limit of the EM spectrum. This suggests that the constitution of a proton is, in fact, simply EM radiation at energy levels above that of gamma. -Mark Iverson
[Vo]:future of academic publishing
Some recent developments in academic publishing are encouraging. As people know, the UK is considering a bill that will require that journal articles reporting on government-funded research be provided to the public free of charge not long after they have been published. I think there are similar efforts underway in the US, and the National Institutes of Health and institutions such as Harvard University have already taken steps in this general direction. The Economist provides a nice report on the UK bill: http://www.economist.com/node/21559317?fsrc=scn/tw/te/mt/broughttobook In this context the arXiv preprint server is an interesting phenomenon. Some people are putting papers up on arXiv for general feedback and then submitting to journals afterwards for the imprimatur. It looks like phys.org is willing to go straight to arXiv for its coverage, as in the case of this paper on primordial black holes: http://phys.org/news/2011-05-theory-black-holes-predate-big.html That paper was eventually published in the International Journal of Modern Physics D (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011arXiv1104.3796C). The sequence of events -- whether phys.org went to arXiv or first or noticed that the paper was to appear in the journal -- isn't clear and probably not all that important. I suspect it's just a matter of time before self-publication on preprint servers becomes the de facto way of sharing experimental results and theoretical explorations. Perhaps in the age of blogs and the twenty-four hour news cycle, there are pressures on scientists to get something out quickly in order to establish priority. In my experience the papers on arXiv run the gamut of quality and conventionality. Some papers are very conventional and professionally done, and others are basically notes covering theories that are sure to be highly controversial. If arXiv has a quality control function, it appears to be quite permissive. As more and more people around the world come online, these preprints and the free courses made available by MIT and Stanford and other universities could become an important part of the tertiary education of a large number of people. This seems like another disruptive development whose consequences are hard to foresee. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China?
Here is an alternate theory that http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-th/0503158v1.pdf *The Casimir Effect and the Quantum Vacuum* * * *In discussions of the cosmological constant, the Casimir effect is often invoked as decisive evidence that the zero point energies of quantum fields are “real”. On the contrary, Casimir effects can be formulated and Casimir forces can be computed without reference to zero point energies.* ** * * *They are relativistic, quantum forces between charges and currents. The Casimir force (per unit area) between parallel plates vanishes as a, the fine structure constant, goes to zero, and the standard result, which appears to be independent of a, corresponds to the a→¥ limit.* In the standard theory, the Casimir force is the zero point energy as calculated by computing the change in the zero point energy of the electromagnetic field when the separation between parallel perfectly conducting plates is changed. The result, of the casimir force equation seems universal, independent of everything except ¯*h*, *c*, and the separation, inviting one to regard it as a property of the vacuum. This, however, is an illusion. When the plates were idealized as perfect conductors, assumptions were made about the properties of the materials and the strength of the QED coupling a, that obscure the fact that the Casimir force originates in the forces between charged particles in the metal plates. This is another way at looking at it. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:07 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Axil: What do you think ‘quantum fluctuations’ are? ** ** “According to present-day understanding of what is called the vacuum state or the quantum vacuum, it is by no means a simple empty space, and again: it is a mistake to think of any physical vacuum as some absolutely empty void. According to quantum mechanics, the vacuum state is not truly empty but instead contains fleeting electromagnetic waves and particles that pop into and out of existence.” ** ** How does one know that the ‘low frequency’ fluctuations aren’t the much lower beat frequency of two or more quantum fluctuations which are at much higher frequencies? ** ** Folks, show me an instrument that can measure frequencies of 10^-23 or faster??? Doesn’t exist… yet. Is there any wonder why quantum theory is based on probabilities??? I think it’s obvious why that is the case…. ** ** -mi ** ** *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:26 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? ** ** http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.027202 The Casimir force arises because of quantum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field in the space between two conducting plates. The Drude model predicts that low-frequency fluctuations play no role in the Casimir force and are due to an electrostatic force coming from electrical potential differences on the membrane surface. If the either can be framed in terms of and all pervasive electromagnetic field throughout space, is that what these other names are describing? Cheers:Axil ** ** On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:47 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: “Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this.” I think that’s what the zero-point field and Casimir effect is all about… just because this generation chooses to call it by a different name doesn’t mean it’s different. -Mark Iverson *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:14 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:23 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: As I have suggested in the past, the only way this could work is if momentum is imparted to the vacuum itself, i.e. to the universe as a whole, thus allowing momentum to be conserved. Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this. Eric ** **
Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing
Eric, To understand why what you say is fundamental for moving the World forward in these days, I suggest anyone to listen at the following speech. A long speech. Really inspiring. Eben Moglen keynote - Innovation under Austerity http://youtu.be/G2VHf5vpBy8 mic 2012/7/26 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com: Some recent developments in academic publishing are encouraging. As people know, the UK is considering a bill that will require that journal articles reporting on government-funded research be provided to the public free of charge not long after they have been published. I think there are similar efforts underway in the US, and the National Institutes of Health and institutions such as Harvard University have already taken steps in this general direction. The Economist provides a nice report on the UK bill: http://www.economist.com/node/21559317?fsrc=scn/tw/te/mt/broughttobook In this context the arXiv preprint server is an interesting phenomenon. Some people are putting papers up on arXiv for general feedback and then submitting to journals afterwards for the imprimatur. It looks like phys.org is willing to go straight to arXiv for its coverage, as in the case of this paper on primordial black holes: http://phys.org/news/2011-05-theory-black-holes-predate-big.html That paper was eventually published in the International Journal of Modern Physics D (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011arXiv1104.3796C). The sequence of events -- whether phys.org went to arXiv or first or noticed that the paper was to appear in the journal -- isn't clear and probably not all that important. I suspect it's just a matter of time before self-publication on preprint servers becomes the de facto way of sharing experimental results and theoretical explorations. Perhaps in the age of blogs and the twenty-four hour news cycle, there are pressures on scientists to get something out quickly in order to establish priority. In my experience the papers on arXiv run the gamut of quality and conventionality. Some papers are very conventional and professionally done, and others are basically notes covering theories that are sure to be highly controversial. If arXiv has a quality control function, it appears to be quite permissive. As more and more people around the world come online, these preprints and the free courses made available by MIT and Stanford and other universities could become an important part of the tertiary education of a large number of people. This seems like another disruptive development whose consequences are hard to foresee. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Sawyer\'s emdrive alive and kicking in China?
Axil Axil Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:26:31 -0700 http://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.027202 The Casimir force arises because of quantum fluctuations of the electromagnetic field in the space between two conducting plates. The Drude model predicts that low-frequency fluctuations play no role in the Casimir force and are due to an electrostatic force coming from electrical potential differences on the membrane surface. If the either can be framed in terms of and all pervasive electromagnetic field throughout space, is that what these other names are describing? Cheers:Axil Yes, But it is a moving field that passes through our 3D plane from a perpendicular dimension which is why we have this Pythagorean relationship between C and velocity for normal SR,,,BUT my posit is that suppression directly effects the speed of the ether through our plane and can also imbalance the angle between different spatial axis such that instead of cancellation you can get a combination of acceleration and time dilation. I still think you need matter like gas atoms to interact with these segregated areas of accelerated and retarded ether velocities in a biased manner or the effects will cancel but that is what we may be seeing with Mills and Rossi. All the SR and time dilations can be thought of in terms of those zip strip toys we played with as kids where you pull the zip cord to bring a flywheel up to speed and then let the toy car go. different flywheels at different speed is how I view inverse rydberg atoms /hydrinos where from their local perspective they are just normal size and time rate even though from our perspective they appear tiny and time dilated [tritium decay rate anomaly].. I know most people put a limit of 1/127 to inverse Rydberg / fractional hydrogen and this may be why the Zero Point field is unfairly dismissed as a contender for the energy levels being discussed /claimed by Rossi/Mills but IMHO the effect is totally relativistic and unlimited! That is to say inverse Rydberg atoms of hydrogen are always just normal hydrogen from their own local perspective, changes in ether velocity due to Casimir geometry may be a limitation since it remains unclear if a method to nest the lattice / Casimir geometry can exist to further reduce the suppressed areas of space time to ever smaller scale but statements by Mills that hydrinos can self catalyze does lend hope that the suppressed gas itself could even further reduce some gas atoms far past the 1/127 limit [at least from our perspective]. There would be no theoretical limit only the physical constraints of trying to use the same matter already defined by it's interaction with the ether in special geometrical configurations [Casimir] to modify and bias that interaction toward a specific spatial axis vs the normal cancellation with an ether that is 90 degrees displaced to all 3 axis. I suspect that the covalent bonds of h2 oppose changes in this ether velocity and may be the energy source Mills, Rossi, Lyne and Moller are tapping because HUP will continue to move the gas between regions and the opposition of the bond to this motion discounts the level of energy needed to disassociate the bond to the point where it takes less to disassociate it than the energy given off when the molecule immediately reforms at the new velocity for ether in the region that caused the discount [change in suppression level] Fran On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:47 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Some kind of ether would be a convenient thing to have for this. ** ** I think that's what the zero-point field and Casimir effect is all about. just because this generation chooses to call it by a different name doesn't mean it's different. -Mark Iverson ** ** *From:* Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:14 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Sawyer's emdrive alive and kicking in China? ** **
Re: [Vo]:Assymetric Maxwell stress tensors
OK, fine. I am primarily looking for theoretical support. Experimental proof is also valuable bu not for me at this moment. David On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Harvey Norris harv...@yahoo.com wrote: Will be posting videos soon. Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ --- On *Mon, 7/23/12, David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com* wrote: From: David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com Subject: [Vo]:Assymetric Maxwell stress tensors To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 8:39 AM Are there any? It seems like a big shortcoming if there aren't any. David David Jonsson, Sweden, phone callto:+46703000370 Simply put when torsion is extreme enough, the vectors of normally perpendicular forces such as electricity and magnetism may become almost parallel;they undergo a kind of distant parallelism brought about by such extreme warping of space. Depending upon the amount of torsion, those vectors may not necessarily be perpendicular any more, but deviate slightly or greatly from such perpendicularity. pg 34/ Top Secret Torsion/Secrets of the Unified Field/ Joseph Farrell http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/4138926072/ 2009 Flux Capacitor Model E X B embodiments on separately phased resonances The Flux Capacitor is a spatially interacted electrical resonance. Resonance is the balancing of magnetic and electrical fields to contain equal field energies, where expression of this energy uses a coil for the magnetic flux, and a capacitor for the electric field energy. Normally these two different field energies exist in separate space, and because they oscillate they also exist in separate timings, whereby when one field is full the other is empty. The first premise of the flux capacitor is to Tconstruct a device whereby the vessels containing each energy expression themselves can exist in the same space at right angles, thereby creating a third reaction force to be obtained in the remaining third angle in space, here to be obtained by non-magnetic stainless steel rods protruding from the water capacitor. The aim here is to split the water molecule into oxygen and hydrogen fuel with the minimal amount of energy. Two 90 degree phased flux caps can share timings of field energy which is the goal of these endeavors, where the magnetic field from one resonance can be spatially interacted with a concurrent electric field from another separately phased resonance. http://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/4138199465/ Axially Insulated Water Capacity in 465 hz Resonance This shows the effect of just the electric field resonating from the right coil at 2700 volts on a hand held grounded neon bulb. Notice that the end connection of the neon need not touch the central electrode of the water capacitor; the electric field energy passes through space itself. The input voltage is obtained from a mere 7 volts obtained from an AC car alternator rotating at a constant rpm to output 465 hz. To achieve the higher voltage output shown here a first stage of resonance is employed which multiplies the initial voltage 15 fold. These comprise two 500 ft wire spools of 14 gauge wire stacked in series; ~ 23 mh@2.6 ohms using 5 uf for 465 hz resonance. This first stage of series resonant rise is necessary to achieve any appreciable amperage through the secondary (interphasal) resonance to be formed into a flux capacitor principle, whereby this then increases the voltage almost another 17 fold. Each of the ending flux capacitor components are 180,000 ohms impedance at this frequency. The coils contain almost 8 miles of 23 gauge wire. An AC alternator is used to obtain the needed higher frequency to enable the resonances to spatially exist inside each other, which then involves special circumstances. Since every changing electric field also appears out of phase as a changing magnetic field according to the derivative of the electric field's rate of change in time, induced currents can be measured when a second coil is employed to surround the axial capacity employed as the first resonance to be engaged, which is shown here without the addition of the second resonance in the three phase triangle. It is found that the induced currents due to induction via spatially enclosed capacity inserted into the coils interior volume: that this value comprises 2/3 the amount of current registered when the interphasing is given its actual separately phased line connections. The second resonance uses an ordinary spatially separate plate plexiglass capacity. Essentially this second large coil in the 60 Henry range @ 840 ohms can be preliminarily tuned to the spatial influence of the initial resonance; however during this tuning where L2C2 has its capacity varied as a shorted loop formation, an amperage meter can be enclosed in this loop to find the point of
Re: [Vo]:Sagnac effect, optical gyroscope lock-in
The MM device does rotate sitting on a rotating Earth globe. It is not a translational movement. It can be seen as part of a Sagnac interferometer going around the globe. David On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The MM device does not rotate, right? T On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM, David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this reference. I thought lock in was also present in a optical fiber gyroscope or any type. Now I realize that the differences are big between different types of interferometers. Are you sure it is not involved in other types? What do you base your conclusion on that it isn't involved in the MM-interferometer? David On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:33 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:08 AM, David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Can someone refer me to the lock-in effect in optical gyroscopes? I have also heard the effect being mentioned as a phase lock loop effect. Could lock-in effect also be present in a straight interferometer like a Michelson-Morley-interferometer? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_laser_gyroscope end I don't think it relates to the MM experiment. T
Re: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields
How could the velocity distribution of those virtual particles be determined? David On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields http://arxiv.org/pdf/0902.1305.pdf ** ** -- ABSTRACT In summary, according to the analysis of the energy and force of the electric and magnetic fields on the basis of vacuum polarization, it is concluded that an electric field is a polarized distribution of the vacuum virtual dipoles, and that a magnetic field in vacuum is a rearrangement of the vacuum polarization. Thus, the electromagnetic wave can be regarded as a successional changing of the vacuum polarization in space. Also, it is found that the virtual dipoles around an elementary charge possess an average half length a = 2.8 × 10^−15 m. This result leads to the knowledge that an electric field has a step distribution of the energy density, which eliminated the divergence in calculating the electron’s electrostatic energy. And it is known that there is a relation between the fine structure constant and the vacuum polarization distribution, which reduced the mystery of the constant α. Finally, it is figured out that an extremely high energy density of the electromagnetic field can be ∼ 10^29 J/m^3, which implies an optical power density ∼ 10^33 W/cm^2; far higher than the Schwinger critical value. With these interesting findings, we anticipate that the vacuum polarization investigation of the fields will be developed further and applied to more fundamental problems of physics. - ** ** Some of you will remember how I’ve expressed my thoughts on a qualitative model I’ve been developing which is based on a physical model of the vacuum and its properties and behavior which results in the things that we perceive to be subatomic particles/atoms. Remember how I regretted not having the mathematical skills necessary to quantify my qualitative model? Well, it would seem that this person has beat me to it! His description of the propagation of an EM wave a “…successional changing of the vacuum polarization in space” is exactly how I envision it. I hope this scientist continues to develop his ideas, and gets some help from other bright minds… I’d like to see where this path might lead! ** ** -Mark ** **
Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Some recent developments in academic publishing are encouraging. As people know, the UK is considering a bill that will require that journal articles reporting on government-funded research be provided to the public free of charge not long after they have been published. This is excellent news. The Economist provides a nice report on the UK bill: http://www.economist.com/node/21559317?fsrc=scn/tw/te/mt/broughttobook Good article. This will eventually put LENR-CANR.org out of business, which is fine with me. I would be even more pleased if the entire mass media begins covering cold fusion and that puts me out of business. The librarians at U. Utah and various universities are campaigning for this. I have been in touch with the librarians at U. Utah. I had lunch with them and spent a day looking at their cold fusion collection. (One day is not enough to go through the whole collection.) I told them they should put the collection on line as a first step to encourage others to do this. They say they cannot, because of copyright restrictions. A large chunk of their papers came from Charles Beaudette. He donated many of the same books and proceedings that I have, such as the ICCF series and Fusion Facts. I subsequently persuaded Ikegami and others to let me put most of the proceedings on line. U. Utah also has many boxes of correspondence from people like Fritz Will. That is interesting for a historian, but it has little scientific value. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields
Good question… How can ANY properties of the vacuum/ether/ZPF be measured? Until we have instrumentation which is capable of detecting and measuring one or more properties of the vacuum, it will remain an enigma; an unknown. It was MEMS and nanotech that allowed us to test for the Casimir force… so perhaps a ZPF multimeter is not far off. -Mark From: David Jonsson [mailto:davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:52 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields How could the velocity distribution of those virtual particles be determined? David On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 10:58 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields http://arxiv.org/pdf/0902.1305.pdf -- ABSTRACT In summary, according to the analysis of the energy and force of the electric and magnetic fields on the basis of vacuum polarization, it is concluded that an electric field is a polarized distribution of the vacuum virtual dipoles, and that a magnetic field in vacuum is a rearrangement of the vacuum polarization. Thus, the electromagnetic wave can be regarded as a successional changing of the vacuum polarization in space. Also, it is found that the virtual dipoles around an elementary charge possess an average half length a = 2.8 × 10^−15 m. This result leads to the knowledge that an electric field has a step distribution of the energy density, which eliminated the divergence in calculating the electron’s electrostatic energy. And it is known that there is a relation between the fine structure constant and the vacuum polarization distribution, which reduced the mystery of the constant α. Finally, it is figured out that an extremely high energy density of the electromagnetic field can be ∼ 10^29 J/m^3, which implies an optical power density ∼ 10^33 W/cm^2; far higher than the Schwinger critical value. With these interesting findings, we anticipate that the vacuum polarization investigation of the fields will be developed further and applied to more fundamental problems of physics. - Some of you will remember how I’ve expressed my thoughts on a qualitative model I’ve been developing which is based on a physical model of the vacuum and its properties and behavior which results in the things that we perceive to be subatomic particles/atoms. Remember how I regretted not having the mathematical skills necessary to quantify my qualitative model? Well, it would seem that this person has beat me to it! His description of the propagation of an EM wave a “…successional changing of the vacuum polarization in space” is exactly how I envision it. I hope this scientist continues to develop his ideas, and gets some help from other bright minds… I’d like to see where this path might lead! -Mark
RE: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields
Mark, I think you are correct about the instrumentation for quantifying zero point – “on the way”… and in fact, it would not surprise me if there is already supporting data out there, having been accumulated using advanced instruments designed for other purposes, and being held back for the proper timing/context. This can include the LHC. In the numen est nomen department - here is a humorous thought if we want to get away from “ZPE” as being too overwrought: not that it is any easier to accept “DCE” or “polarizable vacuum”… but if we want to specify something specific like a dynamical Casimir effect for the road… well no… not Fahrvergnügen, but close. Given the lore of zero point: the long history, the Higgs field, the Einstein-Stern-Planck connection, the Sci-Fi nature of it all – we could always revisit Einstein’s original terminology: Nullpunktsenergie. I had to tune up my spell checker for than honker. It is such a weird and wonderful Teutonic run-on, conjuring up “steam punk” and so forth, that it is almost a surprise that VW has not (yet) used it for one of their SUVs … …maybe they are waiting for the Ni-H powered version to hit the market. From: MarkI-ZeroPoint Until we have instrumentation which is capable of detecting and measuring one or more properties of the vacuum, it will remain an enigma; an unknown. It was MEMS and nanotech that allowed us to test for the Casimir force… so perhaps a ZPF multimeter is not far off. -Mark
RE: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields
Hi Jones, You said… “and in fact, it would not surprise me if there is already supporting data out there, having been accumulated using advanced instruments designed for other purposes, and being held back for the proper timing/context. This can include the LHC.” Agreed, and I’ll go further and say that it wouldn’t surprise me if ‘supporting data’ was written off as error since the anomalous effect wasn’t reproducible! I.e., various instruments and experiments have created conditions which would have resulted in an interaction with the vacuum, but only rarely since it takes very precise and specific conditions, but when it did happen, it was explained away as error since it didn’t happen in the other 10 times they repeated the experiment! -Mark From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: Polarizable vacuum analysis of electric and magnetic fields Mark, I think you are correct about the instrumentation for quantifying zero point – “on the way”… and in fact, it would not surprise me if there is already supporting data out there, having been accumulated using advanced instruments designed for other purposes, and being held back for the proper timing/context. This can include the LHC. In the numen est nomen department - here is a humorous thought if we want to get away from “ZPE” as being too overwrought: not that it is any easier to accept “DCE” or “polarizable vacuum”… but if we want to specify something specific like a dynamical Casimir effect for the road… well no… not Fahrvergnügen, but close. Given the lore of zero point: the long history, the Higgs field, the Einstein-Stern-Planck connection, the Sci-Fi nature of it all – we could always revisit Einstein’s original terminology: Nullpunktsenergie. I had to tune up my spell checker for than honker. It is such a weird and wonderful Teutonic run-on, conjuring up “steam punk” and so forth, that it is almost a surprise that VW has not (yet) used it for one of their SUVs … …maybe they are waiting for the Ni-H powered version to hit the market. From: MarkI-ZeroPoint Until we have instrumentation which is capable of detecting and measuring one or more properties of the vacuum, it will remain an enigma; an unknown. It was MEMS and nanotech that allowed us to test for the Casimir force… so perhaps a ZPF multimeter is not far off. -Mark
Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing
Eric, having an old friend who is/was editor of two respected scientific journals, I have always had my quibbles with her. That the peer-reviewing process is a thing of the past, and the profit journals make out of that, are just obscene. If You are an editor, and are paid some sum for it, it is difficult to question the whole edifice. Now the the leading publishers (Elsevier, Springer,...) seemed to overbid their hand. The counterprocess is very slow, with the matemathicians being in the lead, and eg the Max Planck society encouraging its scientists to publish elsewhere. Now we all know here, that something is rotten in the state of 'peer-reviewing'. But there currently is no established alternative. Science is an eminently hierarchical enterprise, with the reviewers and editors being some sort of grey eminence, which actually are not known by name.(The editors are, ofcourse, the reviewers not) It is basically the editor and the advisory board, which determine who is the competent decider (reviewer) wrt what is valuable in the field. In ordinary life on would call that incest. On the other hand, open access maybe a good thing, but adds confusion, and does not fit well with the established method of selecting the 'best', which is eminently hierarchical. Guenter Von: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 9:04 Donnerstag, 26.Juli 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:future of academic publishing Some recent developments in academic publishing are encouraging. As people know, the UK is considering a bill that will require that journal articles reporting on government-funded research be provided to the public free of charge not long after they have been published. I think there are similar efforts underway in the US, and the National Institutes of Health and institutions such as Harvard University have already taken steps in this general direction. The Economist provides a nice report on the UK bill: http://www.economist.com/node/21559317?fsrc=scn/tw/te/mt/broughttobook In this context the arXiv preprint server is an interesting phenomenon. Some people are putting papers up on arXiv for general feedback and then submitting to journals afterwards for the imprimatur. It looks like phys.org is willing to go straight to arXiv for its coverage, as in the case of this paper on primordial black holes: http://phys.org/news/2011-05-theory-black-holes-predate-big.html That paper was eventually published in the International Journal of Modern Physics D (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011arXiv1104.3796C). The sequence of events -- whether phys.org went to arXiv or first or noticed that the paper was to appear in the journal -- isn't clear and probably not all that important. I suspect it's just a matter of time before self-publication on preprint servers becomes the de facto way of sharing experimental results and theoretical explorations. Perhaps in the age of blogs and the twenty-four hour news cycle, there are pressures on scientists to get something out quickly in order to establish priority. In my experience the papers on arXiv run the gamut of quality and conventionality. Some papers are very conventional and professionally done, and others are basically notes covering theories that are sure to be highly controversial. If arXiv has a quality control function, it appears to be quite permissive. As more and more people around the world come online, these preprints and the free courses made available by MIT and Stanford and other universities could become an important part of the tertiary education of a large number of people. This seems like another disruptive development whose consequences are hard to foresee. Eric
[Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
Scroll down on this page: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies I think the first article is kind of silly, but I like the Twenty-Five Rules . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: (The editors are, ofcourse, the reviewers not) It is basically the editor and the advisory board, which determine who is the competent decider (reviewer) wrt what is valuable in the field. In ordinary life on would call that incest. In ordinary business this would be called a violation of the antitrust laws, or a conflict of interest. Publishing is ordinary business, so that's what I call it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
Scroll down on this page: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies I think the first article is kind of silly, but I like the Twenty-Five Rules . . . Indeed. They are a fine classic, author anonymous, from the Usenet times. The original version is much more juicy, with real life examples for each rule. I've started the translation to Spanish years ago, but never finished. Maybe it's a good time to restart it. Best regards, Mauro
Re: [Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
Scroll down on this page: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies I think the first article is kind of silly, but I like the Twenty-Five Rules . . . Indeed. They are a fine classic, author anonymous, from the Usenet times. The original version is much more juicy, with real life examples for each rule. I've started the translation to Spanish years ago, but never finished. Maybe it's a good time to restart it. To resume it sounds better, and it's more precise. Best regards, Mauro
Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing
well, the basic idea to keep the reviewers secret is to avoid embarrassment between colleagues. The editor at timmes gets some strange comments from the reviewers, which he has to keep confidential like a catholic priest the confessions of sinners, but ist is the other way round: It is the condemnations of the olympic gods of science, which are hidden to the prdinary humans, which is channeled down. I happened to see some of those (emails), which at times are quite embarrassing. Reviewers don't know about each other, only the editor knows. So his sincerity is essential. This is about ten years ago, and even if I could remember exactly, I would not tell, because somehow I belong to the cartel via friendship, if you will. ( I was not aware of the explosivity of this then. I was just amazed because I did not belong to the cartel, and my professional existence did not depend on it.) The reputation of a journal depends on this confidentialty. A very strange constellation indeed. Upon writing this, I get conscious of that. Self-soul-searching. You know what I mean. Guenter Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 20:55 Donnerstag, 26.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:future of academic publishing Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: (The editors are, ofcourse, the reviewers not) It is basically the editor and the advisory board, which determine who is the competent decider (reviewer) wrt what is valuable in the field. In ordinary life on would call that incest. In ordinary business this would be called a violation of the antitrust laws, or a conflict of interest. Publishing is ordinary business, so that's what I call it. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:intellectual property protection
Axil, interesting, but I did not read that. Why? Interesting question. Because I do not believe that he 'rule of law' does apply on any important issue nowadays. Just argue away the clause 'peacetime', and here You are. Habeas corpus? Should I laugh? Wrt to legal issues we fell behind the 1600's or 1300's to Your liking. Read wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus#Origins_in_England We are in an endless 'war' against 'terror'. Right? So anything goes. The rule of law is just a convenience nowadays, if it fits the issue. Emergency can be invoked any minute. So don't be naive. Guenter Von: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com An: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 22:00 Donnerstag, 26.Juli 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:intellectual property protection Some interesting questions about Rossi’s standings regarding intellectual property rights are: Does Rossi have intellectual property protection under the peacetime provisions of the invention secrecy act? ...Assuming that the US is in a state of pease. http://www.law.berkeley.edu/journals/btlj/articles/vol12/Lee/html/text.html What can the DOD do to get duel use LENR technology that they have innovated into the public sector? Cheers: Axil
Re: [Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
Excellent article, Jed These are the tried and proven tactics the enforcers of conformity use to discourage dissent. I would love to see someone write a piece citing specific political dialogues which illustrate these 25 ploys - there are lots of examples. -- Lou Pagnucco Scroll down on this page: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies I think the first article is kind of silly, but I like the Twenty-Five Rules . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...
According to this news item, THz radiation also induces ballistic current flow in some semiconductors. I am curious if this can occur in semiconductors containing, or in contact with, hydrides. The author has a number of papers in arxiv.org. -- Lou Pagnucco Mark Iverson wrote: Terahertz radiation can induce insulator-to-metal change of state in some materials http://phys.org/news/2012-07-terahertz-insulator-to-metal-state-materials.ht ml the researchers used an antenna-like structure called a split ring resonator to concentrate the electric field of a THz pulse in a small area, increasing the electric field from hundreds of kilovolts per centimeter to about 4 megavolts per centimeter. Is there anything about H-loaded metals with shallow fractures, or Ni tubercles, which might act like a split-ring resonator? .because THz frequencies match the resonant frequencies at which neighboring atoms and molecules in crystal lattices vibrate against each other, *THz pulses can drive the lattice vibrations directly*-possibly to large amplitudes. THz light can drive electrons and whole atoms and molecules far from their equilibrium locations in a crystal lattice, which can lead to phase transitions in electronic state and/or crystal structure. -Mark Iverson
Re: [Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
So whom do YOU accuse? Please exactly posit point, which is nicely numbered, and its corresponding syndrome here, as to the dkos-article. I feel sort of 'accused', because I try to keep a critical mind. As a starter: I do not feel to be associated to any hive-mind of consenters or dissenters. So what exactly is wrong with that? Guenter please explain. Von: pagnu...@htdconnect.com pagnu...@htdconnect.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 23:12 Donnerstag, 26.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation Excellent article, Jed These are the tried and proven tactics the enforcers of conformity use to discourage dissent. I would love to see someone write a piece citing specific political dialogues which illustrate these 25 ploys - there are lots of examples. -- Lou Pagnucco Scroll down on this page: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/22/1112509/-The-Gentleperson-s-Guide-to-Forum-Spies I think the first article is kind of silly, but I like the Twenty-Five Rules . . . - Jed
Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...
guys, whatever that is, do You really think that Rossi put something like that into real world commercial operation? THz pulses with significant energy? on a partial cost basis of say $100 of his ecat-3. Sorry to say: You must be completely deluded and have not idea what technology is all about. Did you ever build something slightly sophisticated? If not, shut up and retreat to your cave or listen to people who did. Citing something exotic does not make it operational, Daily techno-gossip is full of crap like this. GET REAL! Very annoyed. Plus: Dear Lou. If You cite crappy points from dkos, please elaborate. I have no problem if You attack me directly. I will respond accordingly. Please be warned! Guenter Von: pagnu...@htdconnect.com pagnu...@htdconnect.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 0:00 Freitag, 27.Juli 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly... According to this news item, THz radiation also induces ballistic current flow in some semiconductors. I am curious if this can occur in semiconductors containing, or in contact with, hydrides. The author has a number of papers in arxiv.org. -- Lou Pagnucco Mark Iverson wrote: Terahertz radiation can induce insulator-to-metal change of state in some materials http://phys.org/news/2012-07-terahertz-insulator-to-metal-state-materials.ht ml the researchers used an antenna-like structure called a split ring resonator to concentrate the electric field of a THz pulse in a small area, increasing the electric field from hundreds of kilovolts per centimeter to about 4 megavolts per centimeter. Is there anything about H-loaded metals with shallow fractures, or Ni tubercles, which might act like a split-ring resonator? .because THz frequencies match the resonant frequencies at which neighboring atoms and molecules in crystal lattices vibrate against each other, *THz pulses can drive the lattice vibrations directly*-possibly to large amplitudes. THz light can drive electrons and whole atoms and molecules far from their equilibrium locations in a crystal lattice, which can lead to phase transitions in electronic state and/or crystal structure. -Mark Iverson
Re: [Vo]:Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation
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Re: [Vo]:FYI: THz pulses can drive lattice vibrations directly...
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.comwrote: guys, whatever that is, do You really think that Rossi put something like that into real world commercial operation? THz pulses with significant energy? From my reading I've concluded that THz is basically infrared. Sometimes I've seen a distinction made between it and infrared, and at other times I have not: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Light_spectrum.svg An application on a Web page is telling me that the blackbody radiation for an object at 300 C (573 K) is 30 THz, with a lower limit of 24 THz and an upper limit of 37 THz. So 300 C would seem to be the goldilocks zone as far as terahertz radiation is concerned. You don't need a fancy terahertz RF pulse device; you just heat something up. Eric
