RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
From Jed: Mizuno informed me that the Japanese government agency NEDO has issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) for projects in cold fusion. The date is 2015, title Energy / Environment New Technology Program http://www.nedo.go.jp/content/100754489.pdf Item D4 on p. 13 here apparently refers to cold fusion: Phenomenon analysis and methods of control of the new thermal energy source from metal hydrides. Mizuno thinks it is a day late and a dollar short. I remember seeing lots of RFPs whiz through my mailbox when I was still working at Wisconsin Dept. of Transportation. As a government agency, I would imagine there are reasonably strict rules in place in Japan just as there are here in the U.S. pertaining to the management of taxpayer's money, i.e. who gets it, and how much of it do they get to play with. In my experience there often seemed to have been a never-ending struggle between awarding a RFP to an outside company who seemed like they actually knew what they were talking about versus going with the lowest bidder. Mix that volatile mixture up with an influx of new inexperienced managers who themselves are ignorant of the systems they inherited from experienced employees and managers who either retired or got fed up and left to save their own sanity, and in my experience that means you end up with a lot of RFPs that generate lots of CRAP. Case in point: The EDMS (Electronic Document Management System) I got hired on to help maintain back in 1997 on a mainframe system at Wis. DOT is still in place today. In software terms, a system that was installed around 1995 has now become a horribly antiquated time-bomb that should have self-destructed years ago. It is constantly in danger of dying a permanent death with every minor IBM mainframe O/S s/w upgrade, which typically occurres every 6 to 12 months. Employees and managers came and went, and I somehow managed to survive the carnage of three still-born RFPs assigned the task of migrating the system over to a new server. As they began to process the fourth RFP attempt I plotted my final departure. I recall meeting with some of the new outside contractors. I did my best to assemble a multi-page chart containing Database Tables and their relationships with each other. I linked these tables with numerous SPUFI commands that showed how to extract (export) the front end table structures that in-turn pointed to the actual document objects. I recall being profusely complemented with the amount of exquisite detail I had supplied them with. (I guess having a BS in ART and an AD in Data Processing assisted me in creating pretty looking graphics that occasionally revealed useful information.) What their complements suggested to me was the disquieting suspicion that they, themselves, were not as knowledgeable of the ancient system as they claimed they were in the RFP that was awarded to them. All my charts and graphs showed them was how to migrate the FRONT END table structures. It didn't show them how to migrate the actual OBJECTS, the actual documents (scanned or electronically produced) that our users would need to display on their monitors such as citations, insurance letters, and traffic accident reports. The only person who has a clue as to how to do that is working in another government building on the other side of Madison, and he has been told not to give any assistance to our contractors. Presently, I believe there still exists three individuals left within the state within our immediate vicinity who possess actual knowledge of how the system works under the hood. Only two of the three work at DOT. Only one of the two employees at DOT is still tasked with the responsibility of maintaining the viability of the 1995 system. Incidentally, the state employee who works on the other side of Madison was previously assigned to assist us in prior RFP attempts. At one point I recall he spent about six months digging into the nuts bolts of the inner workings of out EDMS system in an attempt to construct a consistent and reliable migration procedure. He reported back that even with his vast knowledge he discovered there were orphaned documents, documents that could not be accessed via a batch migration procedure. These were orphaned documents that our users could ironically access on their monitor screens manually one-at-a-time, but that an automated batch oriented migration system for some strange reason was incapable of accessing. We are talking about a system containing millions of document OBJECTS that need to be migrated. That implies there must exist a lot of orphaned documents we can't access via a batch system. He told us he needed to spend a lot more time trying to work out a better procedure to access these documents. So, what do our newly hired managers decide to do when faced with this fact? Apparently, they dismiss the ramifications supplied to them from the
[Vo]:Re: [Vo]HOTTEST CAT
The mechanism for LENR or whatever is a reasonable description of energy producing system at 1380 C may well be different than what happens at lower temperatures. The main question IMHO is how mass is being converted to thermal phonic energy—what are the conditions that allow this transition? The arrangement of atoms even in a liquid may have unique orientations, especially in a magnetic field where the magnetic moments of atoms get involved in establishing a structure in the “melt”. Where there is structure I would assume there is a coherent quantum system that may allow the mass to phonic energy change. If resonant RF or IR radiation is involved, the transition to phonic energy may occur by normal delays of emission and absorption of EM radiation from the coherent system to other parts of the reactor or the melt itself. The control may be in the establishment of the necessary resonances and/or coherent system structure. ZPE is of course a different source of energy than what I suggest above, and Axil’s recent ideas about black hole radiant energy are not included in the mass conversion I have suggested. Bob Cook From: Peter Gluck onic Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:57 AM To: Arik El Boher ; Bo Hoistadt ; Brian Ahern ; CMNS ; Dagmar Kuhn ; David Daggett ; doug marker ; Dr. Braun Tibor ; eCatNews ; Gabriel Moagar-Poladian ; Gary ; Haiko Lietz ; jeff aries ; Mark Tsirlin ; Nicolaie N. Vlad ; Peter Bjorkbom ; Peter Mobberley ; Pierre Clauzon ; Roberto Germano ; Roy Virgilio ; Steve Katinski ; Sunwon Park ; Valerio Ciampoli ; vlad ; VORTEX Subject: [Vo]:still a rhetoric LENR theories question See please: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/the-hottest-e-cat-catches-bad-lenr.html we have to wait for the answer, but the question is interesting. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.
The Bertozzi’s experiment just shows that a 20 MeV electron is relativistic no matter how that electron was produced. On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Was Bertozzi’s experiment in a plasma—2 particle interaction-- or within a many bodied solid or liquid coherent system? The options for reactions may be significantly different. Bob Cook *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:19 PM *To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong. The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of minimum energy. Such an energetic electron is relativistic and free. Ergo, the H- (Piantelli) theory is wrong. [image: Thumbnail] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/BertozziExp.svg/600px-BertozziExp.svg.png Data of the Bertozzi experiment show close agreement with special relativity. Kinetic energy of five electron runs: 0.5, 1, 1.5, 4.5, 15 MeV (or 1, 2, 3, 9, 30 in mc²). Speed: 0.752, 0.828, 0.922, 0.974, 1.0 in c (or 0.867, 0.910, 0.960, 0.987, 1 in c²).
Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.
What causes the warp? On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, the math is fine but IMHO we need to consider equivalent acceleration where the region of space the hydrogen is passing thru is a warp and the entire atom undergoes Lorentzian contraction becoming relativistic NOT JUST THE ELECTRON. You and I are not expending energy to move at 9.8m/sec^2 – we exist in a Well and a relativistic perspective of Casimir effect makes the cavity a warp . IMHO geometrical suppression of virtual particles at the nano scale allows for a robust linkage to change in vacuum pressure, unlike the tedious Pythagorean relationship between V^2/C^2 to achieve relativistic effects I am convinced suppression can “slow the rain” of vp thru a cavity just like an umbrella changing the inertial frame equivalently of hydrogen gas atoms passing thru said cavity. How these equivalent relativistic hydrogens of different fractional values interact with each other may be the real mystery. Fran *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:20 PM *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong. The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of minimum energy. Such an energetic electron is relativistic and free. Ergo, the H- (Piantelli) theory is wrong. [image: Thumbnail] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/BertozziExp.svg/600px-BertozziExp.svg.png Data of the Bertozzi experiment show close agreement with special relativity. Kinetic energy of five electron runs: 0.5, 1, 1.5, 4.5, 15 MeV (or 1, 2, 3, 9, 30 in mc²). Speed: 0.752, 0.828, 0.922, 0.974, 1.0 in c (or 0.867, 0.910, 0.960, 0.987, 1 in c²).
RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.
Axil, the math is fine but IMHO we need to consider equivalent acceleration where the region of space the hydrogen is passing thru is a warp and the entire atom undergoes Lorentzian contraction becoming relativistic NOT JUST THE ELECTRON. You and I are not expending energy to move at 9.8m/sec^2 – we exist in a Well and a relativistic perspective of Casimir effect makes the cavity a warp . IMHO geometrical suppression of virtual particles at the nano scale allows for a robust linkage to change in vacuum pressure, unlike the tedious Pythagorean relationship between V^2/C^2 to achieve relativistic effects I am convinced suppression can “slow the rain” of vp thru a cavity just like an umbrella changing the inertial frame equivalently of hydrogen gas atoms passing thru said cavity. How these equivalent relativistic hydrogens of different fractional values interact with each other may be the real mystery. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:20 PM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong. The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. [http://image.slidesharecdn.com/quantummechanics-130416113624-phpapp01/95/quantum-mechanics-52-638.jpg?cb=1366112279] An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of minimum energy. Such an energetic electron is relativistic and free. Ergo, the H- (Piantelli) theory is wrong. [Thumbnail]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/BertozziExp.svg/600px-BertozziExp.svg.png Data of the Bertozzi experiment show close agreement with special relativity. Kinetic energy of five electron runs: 0.5, 1, 1.5, 4.5, 15 MeV (or 1, 2, 3, 9, 30 in mc²). Speed: 0.752, 0.828, 0.922, 0.974, 1.0 in c (or 0.867, 0.910, 0.960, 0.987, 1 in c²).
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
I think Mizuno meant that is no one left in Japan who is capable of applying for this grant, or interested in applying for it. The document (http://www.nedo.go.jp/content/100754489.pdf) is entirely in Japanese, but if you look at the pages below 15, you will see the application form. You will recognize the bureaucratic format and get a sense of what the government demands. Name of institution, name of researcher, RD area, theme, schedule, etc., etc. Here is item 2.3 run through Google translate and adjusted by me: Implementation Structure * For implementation system when we contract for this research and development project, please provide the implementation system diagrams so that the role of each institution is shown. Please include any subcontractors, when there is a joint implementation plan. Blah, blah . . . A retired professor trying to submit something like this would be rejected out of hand. I can't blame NEDO. This is tax money. The government must have accountability. But it just isn't going to happen with these kinds of rules. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.
Was Bertozzi’s experiment in a plasma—2 particle interaction-- or within a many bodied solid or liquid coherent system? The options for reactions may be significantly different. Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:19 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong. The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of minimum energy. Such an energetic electron is relativistic and free. Ergo, the H- (Piantelli) theory is wrong. Data of the Bertozzi experiment show close agreement with special relativity. Kinetic energy of five electron runs: 0.5, 1, 1.5, 4.5, 15 MeV (or 1, 2, 3, 9, 30 in mc²). Speed: 0.752, 0.828, 0.922, 0.974, 1.0 in c (or 0.867, 0.910, 0.960, 0.987, 1 in c²).
Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]HOTTEST CAT
Quantum mechanical entanglement can combine different types of atoms and photons can entangle atoms and atoms can entangle photons. This is how multiple atoms can become one atom and the energy released from that fusion can be converted to heat. See for example http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/mar/25/how-to-entangle-nearly-3000-atoms-using-a-single-photon How to entangle nearly 3000 atoms using a single photon On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: The mechanism for LENR or whatever is a reasonable description of energy producing system at 1380 C may well be different than what happens at lower temperatures. The main question IMHO is how mass is being converted to thermal phonic energy—what are the conditions that allow this transition? The arrangement of atoms even in a liquid may have unique orientations, especially in a magnetic field where the magnetic moments of atoms get involved in establishing a structure in the “melt”. Where there is structure I would assume there is a coherent quantum system that may allow the mass to phonic energy change. If resonant RF or IR radiation is involved, the transition to phonic energy may occur by normal delays of emission and absorption of EM radiation from the coherent system to other parts of the reactor or the melt itself. The control may be in the establishment of the necessary resonances and/or coherent system structure. ZPE is of course a different source of energy than what I suggest above, and Axil’s recent ideas about black hole radiant energy are not included in the mass conversion I have suggested. Bob Cook *From:* Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com *onic * *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 9:57 AM *To:* Arik El Boher elboh...@missouri.edu ; Bo Hoistadt bo.hois...@physics.uu.se ; Brian Ahern ahern_br...@msn.com ; CMNS c...@googlegroups.com ; Dagmar Kuhn dagmar.k...@gmx.de ; David Daggett david.l.dagg...@gmail.com ; doug marker dsmar...@gmail.com ; Dr. Braun Tibor br...@mail.iif.hu ; eCatNews p...@ecatnews.com ; Gabriel Moagar-Poladian gamo...@yahoo.com ; Gary g...@garywright.com ; Haiko Lietz h...@haikolietz.de ; jeff aries arias...@aol.com ; Mark Tsirlin tsirlin.m...@hotmail.com ; Nicolaie N. Vlad nicolaienv...@gmail.com ; Peter Bjorkbom peter.bjork...@neofire.com ; Peter Mobberley petermobber...@hotmail.com ; Pierre Clauzon pierre.clau...@orange.fr ; Roberto Germano germ...@promete.it ; Roy Virgilio r.virgi...@gmail.com ; Steve Katinski steve...@aol.com ; Sunwon Park swp...@kaist.ac.kr ; Valerio Ciampoli v.ciamp...@anaf.eu ; vlad v...@zpenergy.com ; VORTEX vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* [Vo]:still a rhetoric LENR theories question See please: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/the-hottest-e-cat-catches-bad-lenr.html we have to wait for the answer, but the question is interesting. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
Jed I like your reaction The conclusion to me is that government is not good at entrepreneurship, innovation or other things not fully understood as the result is part of the task to be delegated. Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. That is why risk taking has been part of the capitalistic ideology. Now we try to take that out and then we end up with an empty ideology. I think the say is that nature hates vacuum - that goes for ideology also so now the bureaucrats are filling the void. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I think Mizuno meant that is no one left in Japan who is capable of applying for this grant, or interested in applying for it. The document (http://www.nedo.go.jp/content/100754489.pdf) is entirely in Japanese, but if you look at the pages below 15, you will see the application form. You will recognize the bureaucratic format and get a sense of what the government demands. Name of institution, name of researcher, RD area, theme, schedule, etc., etc. Here is item 2.3 run through Google translate and adjusted by me: Implementation Structure * For implementation system when we contract for this research and development project, please provide the implementation system diagrams so that the role of each institution is shown. Please include any subcontractors, when there is a joint implementation plan. Blah, blah . . . A retired professor trying to submit something like this would be rejected out of hand. I can't blame NEDO. This is tax money. The government must have accountability. But it just isn't going to happen with these kinds of rules. - Jed
RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.
The warp is caused by suppression geometry of the cavity walls or defects in the lattice, it is a quantum effect of the surrounding geometry that the atoms happen to be randomly migrating through, they may react to the decrease in vacuum density but they did nothing themselves to supply the energy and would likely release any potential energy gained between different density regions because they simply transform to the new value. IMHO it requires an asymmetrical reaction to occur that opposes this free translation of gas atoms such that the normally unexploitable random motion of gas becomes exploitable. My pet theory is that h2 molecular bond may oppose the translation but random motion forces the molecule to translate anyhow and weakens the covalent bond.. if already near the threshold the molecule could disassociate in what may be a real world HUP trap / Maxwellian demon because “random” becomes meaningless when any direction represents a change in density. Regardless of theory applied I think it is the quantum effect of the surrounding geometry that is “powering” the anomaly and therefore not just effecting the electron but rather the entire atom and nearby atoms and molecules all to different extents proportional to their local suppression force/wall proximity. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:58 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong. What causes the warp? On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.commailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil, the math is fine but IMHO we need to consider equivalent acceleration where the region of space the hydrogen is passing thru is a warp and the entire atom undergoes Lorentzian contraction becoming relativistic NOT JUST THE ELECTRON. You and I are not expending energy to move at 9.8m/sec^2 – we exist in a Well and a relativistic perspective of Casimir effect makes the cavity a warp . IMHO geometrical suppression of virtual particles at the nano scale allows for a robust linkage to change in vacuum pressure, unlike the tedious Pythagorean relationship between V^2/C^2 to achieve relativistic effects I am convinced suppression can “slow the rain” of vp thru a cavity just like an umbrella changing the inertial frame equivalently of hydrogen gas atoms passing thru said cavity. How these equivalent relativistic hydrogens of different fractional values interact with each other may be the real mystery. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.commailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:20 PM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong. The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. [http://image.slidesharecdn.com/quantummechanics-130416113624-phpapp01/95/quantum-mechanics-52-638.jpg?cb=1366112279] An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of minimum energy. Such an energetic electron is relativistic and free. Ergo, the H- (Piantelli) theory is wrong. [Thumbnail]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/BertozziExp.svg/600px-BertozziExp.svg.png Data of the Bertozzi experiment show close agreement with special relativity. Kinetic energy of five electron runs: 0.5, 1, 1.5, 4.5, 15 MeV (or 1, 2, 3, 9, 30 in mc²). Speed: 0.752, 0.828, 0.922, 0.974, 1.0 in c (or 0.867, 0.910, 0.960, 0.987, 1 in c²).
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
OK Jed it was not very well stated. Yes, there are good people all over the place. My point was that in new organizations it is easier to get the culture to stay. If you have clear messages from the top and enthusiasm then it can work. I think - without having any connection worth mentioning - that people who where there in an early stage will agree that most of the enthusiasm is gone. It is nothing wrong with the people. It is just as it works. Example of good result in the government is not enough to convince me that government can handle change and improvements. They are rather the exceptions that confirms the rule. I am not well aware of the names you bring forward. I would say that I am sure there are other organizations claiming the honors as well. Once again no problems with that good people are employed in the government. Justy think that large organizations eventually will make people regroup in the common attitude of CYA , which is the opposite of forward thinking. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: Yes I agree with that NASA did something I would say in spite of being a government organization. Driving forces JFK and W von Braun. Not the organization . That is not a bit true. Most of the NASA people were top notch. The movie Apollo 13 is an good portrayal of the organization and people. I knew some of them and I assure you it wasn't only JFK and von Braun. The government also pioneered semiconductors and computers in that era, and later the Internet. I also knew some of the government people in the forefront of computer hardware and software. I did not know Grace Hopper but no one contributed more to software than she did. She was an admiral in the Navy. The Navy also encouraged and paid for the discovery and development of the laser, and much else. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
Hi Steven, I'm sympathetic to your feelings about new, inexperienced managers barging in and arrogating to themselves important decisions without the benefit of consulting the people who are in the best position to know what the implications will be. But going beyond that, let me propose that each government is dysfunctional in its unique way, and the primary challenge faced by the US government seems to be that it is overly bureaucratic. Americans love management as a topic, and they love to manage, to sit back and tell other people what to do, to put in place all kinds of processes and to hide behind such processes in order to avoid personal liability. There is a similar overgrowth that can be seen in US legal practice. The following article is about the small team that fixed the healthcare.gov website, and it shows a little of what a group of Silicon Valley expatriates encountered along the way, trying to work with US government agencies: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/07/the-secret-startup-saved-healthcare-gov-the-worst-website-in-america/397784/ Eric
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
Hi Steven, Yes I agree with that NASA did something I would say in spite of being a government organization. Driving forces JFK and W von Braun. Not the organization . I will not comment on the political stuff as I do not want to come across as I like any politician (looking on them as a function rather than a person). Scott Walker I am sure you have all the ins and out about. The only thing I like is that he stood up and even as he was attacked he did not back down. Unfortunately I think the outcome is as you say. Government cannot do anything right if not by accident. Maybe that was a little harsh:) If government does something right it is because they hired someone with a personal agenda with enough personal strengths to withstand all the forces that works on bringing things back to 'normal'. 'Normal' being as close as it was before. We do not like changes (if they are not done to someone else). In reality large corporations does not come far beyond in ability to innovate - in a wide meaning - just you hope they should have a better mechanism to fire people that are able to lead. Another thing. The right to do mistake is to 'innovation' / changes like coal is to a fire. The problem is not that new employees is going to make mistake. The problem is that they will soon be taught that mistakes will make a carer blocker, then they take more risk and then everything stays the same in the name of CYA. I want you to observe, I have no problem with people working in the public sector. They are of the same quality as people working elsewhere. It is that organizations create an atmosphere or culture if you so prefer. That culture needs to penetrate and it becomes harder and harder depending on two factors - size and age of the organization. When we do not know what to do (=the culture does not penetrate), then we honker down and make minimal noise. That is the basic of CYA. That in its turn is the culture of large organizations. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Hi Lennart: Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. Actually, I would disagree with that opinion even though my previous post would seem to suggest otherwise. I really don't blame government, nor do I think government is incompetent or incapable of delegating. I think the problem is indicative of an ageing government workforce (both state federal) that is retiring in droves resulting in a vacuum that simply can't be filled fast enough to replace all the expertise that has left. Often the only recourse left is to hire a lot of young, inexperienced scared managers and employees that really are trying their best to tackle monsters they inherited. Inevitably, some are going to end up making a lot of mistakes. Some mistakes are going to be more spectacular than others. I just hope enough of these young whippersnappers survive the education process and become experienced managers that choose to remain within the government system. Unfortunately, once they get edu-ficated, many just leave for the private sector when head hunters start circling about and wave big bucks in front of them. And, of course, the vicious cycle re-edu-fication process starts all over again. Complicating matters in the case of Wisconsin, Scott Walker's Wisconsin Act 10 Budget repair Bill ended up cutting hundreds of dollars ($450 of net pay in my case) out of state employee's monthly salary - which went towards paying higher health insurance and retirement premiums. Doing so has only made it that much harder trying to hire a fresh new crop of state employees from the private sector. But think positive! Government projects plus all the delegation involved can be capable of producing miracles. NASA took us to the moon and back using 1960s technology. There's that Internet thing, too. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks *From:* Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:40 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects Jed I like your reaction The conclusion to me is that government is not good at entrepreneurship, innovation or other things not fully understood as the result is part of the task to be delegated. Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. That is why risk taking has been part of the capitalistic ideology. Now we try to take that out and then we end up with an empty ideology. I think the say is that nature hates vacuum - that goes for ideology also so now the bureaucrats are
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
I wrote: But going beyond that, let me propose that each government is dysfunctional in its unique way, and the primary challenge faced by the US government seems to be that it is overly bureaucratic. I do not want to overstate this. I do not mean that other governments are not also too bureaucratic. The thought is that different governments face challenges that go back to their history and how they have evolved over time. Eric
RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
Hello again Lennart, I wanted to comment on: Example of good result in the government is not enough to convince me that government can handle change and improvements I would say the same criticism applies towards a number of private corporations as well. Jed has been very good at citing numerous historical examples that have shown the Achilles heels of well-established private enterprises. I think we must resign ourselves to the realization that we are stuck with both extremes running our society: Governments and private enterprises, and all the interesting hybrids that find their little niches in-between. I think it best if both extremes try to do their best to remain civil and work with each other for the common good of everyone. As they say on the Red Green Show: We're all in this together. http://www.redgreen.com/ I'm hoping this is a matter we can both agree on. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:New York MTA technology
On the subject of governments, technology and infrastructure, here is an interesting video from the MTA showing equipment from the 1930s and 1950s still in use in the New York subway system. This shows why large organizations cannot change quickly. They have to keep the trains moving. http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2015/07/30/converting_the_new_york_city_subway_system_to_communications_based_train.html - Jed
[Vo]:Piantelli theory of LENR is wrong.
The electron(s) associated with the H- cannot enter the nucleus unless their energy is greater that 20 MeV due to the uncertainty principle. An electron in a H- orbital cannot be that energetic since it would shed that energy through the production of an x-ray photon as the H- seeks a state of minimum energy. Such an energetic electron is relativistic and free. Ergo, the H- (Piantelli) theory is wrong. [image: Thumbnail] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/BertozziExp.svg/600px-BertozziExp.svg.png Data of the Bertozzi experiment show close agreement with special relativity. Kinetic energy of five electron runs: 0.5, 1, 1.5, 4.5, 15 MeV (or 1, 2, 3, 9, 30 in mc²). Speed: 0.752, 0.828, 0.922, 0.974, 1.0 in c (or 0.867, 0.910, 0.960, 0.987, 1 in c²).
[Vo]:still a rhetoric LENR theories question
See please: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/07/the-hottest-e-cat-catches-bad-lenr.html we have to wait for the answer, but the question is interesting. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
Hi Lennart: Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. Actually, I would disagree with that opinion even though my previous post would seem to suggest otherwise. I really don't blame government, nor do I think government is incompetent or incapable of delegating. I think the problem is indicative of an ageing government workforce (both state federal) that is retiring in droves resulting in a vacuum that simply can't be filled fast enough to replace all the expertise that has left. Often the only recourse left is to hire a lot of young, inexperienced scared managers and employees that really are trying their best to tackle monsters they inherited. Inevitably, some are going to end up making a lot of mistakes. Some mistakes are going to be more spectacular than others. I just hope enough of these young whippersnappers survive the education process and become experienced managers that choose to remain within the government system. Unfortunately, once they get edu-ficated, many just leave for the private sector when head hunters start circling about and wave big bucks in front of them. And, of course, the vicious cycle re-edu-fication process starts all over again. Complicating matters in the case of Wisconsin, Scott Walker's Wisconsin Act 10 Budget repair Bill ended up cutting hundreds of dollars ($450 of net pay in my case) out of state employee's monthly salary - which went towards paying higher health insurance and retirement premiums. Doing so has only made it that much harder trying to hire a fresh new crop of state employees from the private sector. But think positive! Government projects plus all the delegation involved can be capable of producing miracles. NASA took us to the moon and back using 1960s technology. There's that Internet thing, too. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:40 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects Jed I like your reaction The conclusion to me is that government is not good at entrepreneurship, innovation or other things not fully understood as the result is part of the task to be delegated. Government by definition cannot delegate. I think Steven's example proves it. That is why risk taking has been part of the capitalistic ideology. Now we try to take that out and then we end up with an empty ideology. I think the say is that nature hates vacuum - that goes for ideology also so now the bureaucrats are filling the void. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com http://www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com mailto:lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I think Mizuno meant that is no one left in Japan who is capable of applying for this grant, or interested in applying for it. The document (http://www.nedo.go.jp/content/100754489.pdf) is entirely in Japanese, but if you look at the pages below 15, you will see the application form. You will recognize the bureaucratic format and get a sense of what the government demands. Name of institution, name of researcher, RD area, theme, schedule, etc., etc. Here is item 2.3 run through Google translate and adjusted by me: Implementation Structure * For implementation system when we contract for this research and development project, please provide the implementation system diagrams so that the role of each institution is shown. Please include any subcontractors, when there is a joint implementation plan. Blah, blah . . . A retired professor trying to submit something like this would be rejected out of hand. I can't blame NEDO. This is tax money. The government must have accountability. But it just isn't going to happen with these kinds of rules. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: Yes I agree with that NASA did something I would say in spite of being a government organization. Driving forces JFK and W von Braun. Not the organization . That is not a bit true. Most of the NASA people were top notch. The movie Apollo 13 is an good portrayal of the organization and people. I knew some of them and I assure you it wasn't only JFK and von Braun. The government also pioneered semiconductors and computers in that era, and later the Internet. I also knew some of the government people in the forefront of computer hardware and software. I did not know Grace Hopper but no one contributed more to software than she did. She was an admiral in the Navy. The Navy also encouraged and paid for the discovery and development of the laser, and much else. - Jed
RE: [Vo]:NEDO RFP for cold fusion projects
From Jed: I did not know Grace Hopper but no one contributed more to software than she did. She was an admiral in the Navy. Back around 1980 when I still had a few visible fledgling feathers I got to see Grace Hopper at a talk she gave in Madison on one of her numerous speaking engagement rounds. One of the first things she did after she stepped up to the podium was to apologize about what happened to COBOL. The audience was packed with COBOL mainframe programmers, myself included. Her apology got a chuckle, particularly from the smaller group of us that had been exposed to other programming languages. I think the rest probably just scratched their heads and wondered what she was apologizing for. I certainly do not blame Grace and the monumental task that had been handed to her to develop the first business oriented programming language known as COBOL. Love it or hate it, COBOL is still one of the most widely used 3rd generation programming languages in the mainframe environment. Being the first business oriented programming language of its kind, Grace and her team had no prior experience in comprehending how such a programming language should be structured. Since they were trying to design a simple-to-understand programming language syntax that performed a lot of business oriented accounting activities it seemed to make sense to develop commands around the English language, using simple grammatically correct English-like sentences, like ADD SALES-TAX-VALUE TO GRAND-TOTAL. (Don't forget that period!) Of course you could write the same computation in COBOL as COMPUTE GRAND-TOTAL = GRAND-TOTAL + SALES-TAX-VALUE. which was just as bad because of its wordiness. Developing the excessively worded commands that many computer science academics turned their noses up at wasn't her fault or the team's fault. Eventually, I would imagine the whole team learned what worked and what didn't through trial and error and getting feed-back from users. But by then COBOL standards had already been set in stone, and there was no going back. You had to respect the Admiral. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson OrionWorks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
