[Vo]:Cold Fusion from Mumbai(?): ECCO Plasma Treatment

[Che]

I like how the reactor vessel is tied down with nylon rope.

Impressive amounts of energy coming out of apparently a few ceramic rods.
On-demand.


ECCO: Plasma Treatment 

[Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

So... what do people think about the ECCO cold fusion project from an
Indian team? The MFMP seem impressed by a claimed COP of 8.







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Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Lennart Thornros]

Frank
Is it 1.094 MHz?

On Jul 19, 2017 10:12, "Frank Znidarsic"  wrote:

>
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
> wrote:
> >
> > There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
> > impossible.
> >/snip
>
>
> This is exactly what I expected.  Terra hertz radiation forms a
> vibrationally reinforced Bose condensate (a superconductor) in nano sized
> particles..  Again,  "The constants of the motion tend toward the
> electromagnetic in a Bose condensate that is stimulated at a dimensional
> frequency of 1,094,000 meters/ second".
>
> http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2014Natur.516...71M
>

[Vo]:Most important paper for cold fusion

[Frank Znidarsic]

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v516/n7529/full/nature13875.html#ref8

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Frank Znidarsic]

>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern  wrote:
>
> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
> impossible.
>/snip



This is exactly what I expected.  Terra hertz radiation forms a vibrationally 
reinforced Bose condensate (a superconductor) in nano sized particles..  Again, 
 "The constants of the motion tend toward the electromagnetic in a Bose 
condensate that is stimulated at a dimensional frequency of 1,094,000 meters/ 
second".


http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2014Natur.516...71M

RE: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Russ George]

Once in a while a tidbit of real value makes it through the vortex. The Ralph 
Waldo Emerson quote on the Hobgoblins of little minds is one such tidbit, 
Thanks!

 

From: Che [mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:15 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

 



On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley  > wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern   > wrote:
>
> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
> impossible.
>
> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor


I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption is to 
assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of matter -- 
whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase space' of 
possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.

Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...



“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little 
statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has 
simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the 
wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what 
to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said 
to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, 
to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and 
Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit 
that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”


― Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance

 

 

 

 

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Axil Axil]

https://arxiv.org/pdf/1411.6822


Exciton-polariton condensates

Tim Byrnes,1 Na Young Kim,2 and Yoshihisa Yamamoto1, 2
1National Institute of Informatics, 2-1-2 Hitotsubashi, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo
101-8430, Japan
2E. L. Ginzton Laboratory, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305
(Dated: November 26, 2014)

Recently a new type of system exhibiting spontaneous coherence has emerged
{ the excitonpolariton
condensate. Exciton-polaritons (or polaritons for short) are bosonic
quasiparticles that
exist inside semiconductor microcavities, consisting of a superposition of
an exciton and a cavity
photon. Above a threshold density the polaritons macroscopically occupy the
same quantum state,
forming a condensate. The lifetime of the polaritons are typically
comparable to or shorter than
thermalization times, making them possess an inherently non-equilibrium
nature. Nevertheless,
they display many of the features that would be expected of equilibrium
Bose-Einstein condensates
(BECs). The non-equilibrium nature of the system raises fundamental
questions of what it means
for a system to be a BEC, and introduces new physics beyond that seen in
other macroscopically
coherent systems. In this review we focus upon several physical phenomena
exhibited by excitonpolariton
condensates. In particular we examine topics such as the di erence between
a polariton
BEC, a polariton laser, and a photon laser, as well as physical phenomena
such as super
uidity,
vortex formation, BKT (Berezinskii-Kosterlitz-Thouless) and BCS
(Bardeen-Cooper-Schrie er)
physics. We also discuss the physics and applications of engineered
polariton structures.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
>> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
>>
>> This is not an absolute. When polaritons are confined in an optical
>> cavity over time, FANO interference forces the waveform into a soliton. In
>> other words, long term confinement of EMF leads to the formation of a BEC
>> through interference.
>>
>
> I did not know that. But this is only a _virtual_ BEC, no..?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Che  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
 generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
 but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
 matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
 signs of a BEC?

>>>
>>> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
>>> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
>>> (in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd
>>> _necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors:
>>> which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows
>>> electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into
>>> the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides*
>>> them w/o any friction.
>>>
>>> Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who
>>> can know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors
>>> would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!)
>>> :D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

 On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
 > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
 > wrote:
 >>
 >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
 wrote:
 >>
 >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
 >> impossible.
 >>
 >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
 >
 >
 > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the
 assumption is
 > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of
 matter
 > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
 space'
 > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
 >
 > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
 >


>>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Che]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
>> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
>>
>> This is not an absolute. When polaritons are confined in an optical
>> cavity over time, FANO interference forces the waveform into a soliton. In
>> other words, long term confinement of EMF leads to the formation of a BEC
>> through interference.
>>
>
> I did not know that. But this is only a _virtual_ BEC, no..?
>


Perhaps the key to effective 'room-temperature' superconductivity is to be
'virtual superconductors' as well...
:)

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Che]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:02 AM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
>
> This is not an absolute. When polaritons are confined in an optical cavity
> over time, FANO interference forces the waveform into a soliton. In other
> words, long term confinement of EMF leads to the formation of a BEC through
> interference.
>

I did not know that. But this is only a _virtual_ BEC, no..?








>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Che  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
>>> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
>>> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
>>> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
>>> signs of a BEC?
>>>
>>
>> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
>> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
>> (in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd
>> _necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors:
>> which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows
>> electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into
>> the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides*
>> them w/o any friction.
>>
>> Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who can
>> know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors
>> would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!)
>> :D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
>>> >> impossible.
>>> >>
>>> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption
>>> is
>>> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of
>>> matter
>>> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
>>> space'
>>> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
>>> >
>>> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Axil Axil]

try

linear Bose Einstin condensate

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Che  wrote:

>
> Looking up 'linear BEC' I'm getting battery circuits... wtf.
> :P
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Che  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
>>> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
>>> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
>>> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
>>> signs of a BEC?
>>>
>>
>> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
>> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
>> (in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd
>> _necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors:
>> which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows
>> electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into
>> the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides*
>> them w/o any friction.
>>
>> Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who can
>> know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors
>> would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!)
>> :D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
>>> >> impossible.
>>> >>
>>> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption
>>> is
>>> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of
>>> matter
>>> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
>>> space'
>>> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
>>> >
>>> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Axil Axil]

I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible

This is not an absolute. When polaritons are confined in an optical cavity
over time, FANO interference forces the waveform into a soliton. In other
words, long term confinement of EMF leads to the formation of a BEC through
interference.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
>> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
>> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
>> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
>> signs of a BEC?
>>
>
> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
> (in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd
> _necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors:
> which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows
> electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into
> the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides*
> them w/o any friction.
>
> Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who can
> know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors
> would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!)
> :D
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
>> >> impossible.
>> >>
>> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
>> >
>> >
>> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption
>> is
>> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of
>> matter
>> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
>> space'
>> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
>> >
>> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Che]

Looking up 'linear BEC' I'm getting battery circuits... wtf.
:P

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
>> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
>> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
>> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
>> signs of a BEC?
>>
>
> I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
> requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
> (in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd
> _necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors:
> which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows
> electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into
> the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides*
> them w/o any friction.
>
> Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who can
> know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors
> would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!)
> :D
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
>> >> impossible.
>> >>
>> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
>> >
>> >
>> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption
>> is
>> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of
>> matter
>> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
>> space'
>> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
>> >
>> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Che]

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
> signs of a BEC?
>

I'm no fyzicist, but BECs are the quantum state of matter absolutely
requiring the least possible amount of energy in the system as is possible
(in order to overcome Pauli exclusion, AFAIK). So AFAIK too: they'd
_necessarily_ *need* to be around zero kelvin. Not so superconductors:
which would apparently *only* require a configuration which allows
electrons (_only_ cooper pairs?) to travel freely without careening into
the atomic lattice containing them. Perhaps a lattice which indeed *guides*
them w/o any friction.

Maybe a future fyzix would handle that at room temperature too... Who can
know the far future, eh..? And perhaps room temperature superconductors
would be the necessary pre-condition for that to come about, too... (??!!)
:D




>
> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
> >> impossible.
> >>
> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
> >
> >
> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption is
> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of matter
> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
> space'
> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
> >
> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
> >
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Axil Axil]

The Ideal shape of the LENR active nanoparticles is the nanowire.


[image: tumblr_inline_nklod0IHqf1rpydpj.gif]



(Simulation of the continuous polarization dependence of the photoinduced
surface plasmon polaritons field distribution in a silver nanoresonator of
5.7 μm length and 67 nm radius under 800 nm excitation. Details of the the
induced |*Ez*| distribution with polarization angle *φ*.


The picture shows how Surface Plasmon Polaritons (SPP) form on the surface
of a nanowire. Heat produces a periodic barrier called a quantum or thermal
phase slip that confines packets of electrons is a regular pattern whose
number is proportional to the temperature. The heat photons combine with
the trapped electrons to form polaritons. The hotter it gets, the more
vigorous is the productions and the power of the SPP.


The pattern of polarization shows that all the SPPs behave in the same way
and thus are regimented by Bose Condensation. Under Bose Condensation, all
the energy of the polariton condinsate is available to any member of the
condinsate, a process called superradiance (AKA...all for one and one for
all).

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
> signs of a BEC?
>
> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
> >> impossible.
> >>
> >> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
> >
> >
> > I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption is
> > to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of matter
> > -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
> space'
> > of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
> >
> > Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
> >
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs. Darden Settlement Agreement Published

[Kevin O'Malley]

Rossi – IH Settlement Published: Rossi Gets Back All Rights to E-Cat,
IH no Longer Involved
Posted on July 18, 2017 • 96 Comments

http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/18/rossi-ih-settlement-published-rossi-gets-back-all-rights/


Rossi Interview with Mats Lewan

Settlement Agreement:
https://animpossibleinvention.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/settlement-agreement.pdf


On 7/18/17, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:
> Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
> generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
> but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
> matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
> signs of a BEC?
>
> On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
>>> impossible.
>>>
>>> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
>>
>>
>> I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption is
>> to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of matter
>> -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase
>> space'
>> of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
>>
>> Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Kevin O'Malley]

Wouldn't that be fascinating if High Temp Superconductors were
generating linear BECs?   I can see they might be Luttinger Liquids,
but let's say it went one step further, not into a solid state of
matter but into the Condensate state of matter.Are there telltale
signs of a BEC?

On 7/18/17, Che  wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:13 AM, Brian Ahern  wrote:
>>
>> There are no room temperature superconductors. They are theoretically
>> impossible.
>>
>> ***Someone should tell the guys who are working towards that goal.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room-temperature_superconductor
>
>
> I think the problem with this sort of thinking, is that the assumption is
> to assume we need only be looking at essentially 'known' states of matter
> -- whilst totally overlooking the HUGE (essentially INFINITE) 'phase space'
> of possibilities which 'emergent' physical relations hand us.
>
> Someone is not 'thinking outside the box'...
>