Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

I wrote:


> By the way, the name of that detergent is cute. It is Kyukyuto which is
> the sound clean wet dishes make when you wife them. Kyu! Kyu!
>

WIPE them. Not wife. That has to be some kind of Freudian slip.

Ahem, let's keep this here, shall we? What happens in Vortex stays in
Vortex. I wouldn't want that particular remark to . . . uh, to get back to
my wipe. Wife!

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

Jack Cole  wrote:

He probably needs to include more data.
>

There is lots more data in the first paper.

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

H LV  wrote:

In your paper you describe a certain brand of orange scented detergent. Do
> you think a successful replication requires it? Harry
>

See p. 18:

It is not clear whether the choice of detergent or the type of plastic in
the scrubbing brush has an effect on the outcome of this experiment.
However, cold fusion is usually sensitive to materials, and the cause of
the reaction is not known, so we recommend that people trying to replicate
use similar materials, including a detergent with a similar formula. Also,
as noted above, we recommend an air-flow calorimeter.


In other words, who knows? But if it don't work, try that stuff. At least
check to see if your detergent has similar ingredients.

I say you should start by doing the closest replication you can. If it
works, you can then try all kinds of variations to see if you can improve
it. But you start by following the instructions to the letter.

By the way, the name of that detergent is cute. It is Kyukyuto which is the
sound clean wet dishes make when you wife them. Kyu! Kyu! Literally and
figuratively cute.

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jack Cole]

>
> It is a normal heating curve! It is a calibration. It looks pretty bumpy
> to me. That's ambient temp fluctuations, I think.


Not so.  I used the data from his active run to create that chart.

He re-calibrates everything, every time he puts reactors into the box and
> seals it up. He does the procedures graphed in the Calorimetry section of
> the new paper. The traverse test and so on. He leaves the reactors in for a
> long time in some cases. Months. He can recalibrate anytime.
>
> He also cleans out the fan and does other maintenance before starting a
> run.
>

He probably needs to include more data.  We're kind of left taking his word
for it.  It is such an amazing result that he should at least end with
another calibration.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 7:10 PM Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Jack Cole  wrote:
>
> It's not really clear to me whether he re-calibrated everything with the
>> new reactor.
>>
>
> He re-calibrates everything, every time he puts reactors into the box and
> seals it up. He does the procedures graphed in the Calorimetry section of
> the new paper. The traverse test and so on. He leaves the reactors in for a
> long time in some cases. Months. He can recalibrate anytime.
>
> He also cleans out the fan and does other maintenance before starting a
> run.
>
>
>
>>   In the first set of experiments (first paper), he had two reactors and
>> would switch between them.
>>
>
> Still does.
>
>
>
>> The second set, he only shows a 50W calibration and 0W.  I graphed input
>> power by reactor temp, and it looks awfully uniform (and quite similar to a
>> normal heating curve).
>>
>
> It is a normal heating curve! It is a calibration. It looks pretty bumpy
> to me. That's ambient temp fluctuations, I think.
>
> - Jed
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[H LV]

In your paper you describe a certain brand of orange scented detergent. Do
you think a successful replication requires it? Harry

On Wed., Jun. 19, 2019, 8:23 p.m. Jed Rothwell, 
wrote:

> Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>
>> This replication method goes without saying. But what is the plan for
>> continuing improvement of this type of reactor?
>>
>
> Here is my plan. First we get a few people to replicate. Then a few more,
> say 10. They tell others and 20 more replicate. Then 50 more, then a chain
> reaction ensues and thousands of people replicate. At that point, large
> corporation begin spending an aggregate of ~$100 million a day on R We
> see more progress every month than we have seen in the last 30 years.
>
> Seriously, that is my plan. That will produce more continuing improvement
> than any one person can imagine. Even if someone, somewhere knows how to
> improve it, we have no way of knowing who that person is or whether she is
> right. So we must have hundreds of thousands of people working on it.
> Someone will find an effective way.
>

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Franck Lefebure]

Hi
(I've been lurking VortexL since a long time and this is my first
contribution - sorry for my poor frenglish)
IMO Mizuno is one of the most interesting case in the field of
lenr/CF. Much more solid than people like Rossi for example.
I wonder why Google CF team doesn't integrate him or try to replicate
his work (past and current).
Any idea ?


Le mer. 19 juin 2019 à 21:23, Jed Rothwell  a écrit :
>
> Axil Axil  wrote:
>
>>
>> This replication method goes without saying. But what is the plan for 
>> continuing improvement of this type of reactor?
>
>
> Here is my plan. First we get a few people to replicate. Then a few more, say 
> 10. They tell others and 20 more replicate. Then 50 more, then a chain 
> reaction ensues and thousands of people replicate. At that point, large 
> corporation begin spending an aggregate of ~$100 million a day on R We see 
> more progress every month than we have seen in the last 30 years.
>
> Seriously, that is my plan. That will produce more continuing improvement 
> than any one person can imagine. Even if someone, somewhere knows how to 
> improve it, we have no way of knowing who that person is or whether she is 
> right. So we must have hundreds of thousands of people working on it. Someone 
> will find an effective way.

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

Axil Axil  wrote:


> This replication method goes without saying. But what is the plan for
> continuing improvement of this type of reactor?
>

Here is my plan. First we get a few people to replicate. Then a few more,
say 10. They tell others and 20 more replicate. Then 50 more, then a chain
reaction ensues and thousands of people replicate. At that point, large
corporation begin spending an aggregate of ~$100 million a day on R We
see more progress every month than we have seen in the last 30 years.

Seriously, that is my plan. That will produce more continuing improvement
than any one person can imagine. Even if someone, somewhere knows how to
improve it, we have no way of knowing who that person is or whether she is
right. So we must have hundreds of thousands of people working on it.
Someone will find an effective way.

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

Jack Cole  wrote:

It's not really clear to me whether he re-calibrated everything with the
> new reactor.
>

He re-calibrates everything, every time he puts reactors into the box and
seals it up. He does the procedures graphed in the Calorimetry section of
the new paper. The traverse test and so on. He leaves the reactors in for a
long time in some cases. Months. He can recalibrate anytime.

He also cleans out the fan and does other maintenance before starting a run.



>   In the first set of experiments (first paper), he had two reactors and
> would switch between them.
>

Still does.



> The second set, he only shows a 50W calibration and 0W.  I graphed input
> power by reactor temp, and it looks awfully uniform (and quite similar to a
> normal heating curve).
>

It is a normal heating curve! It is a calibration. It looks pretty bumpy to
me. That's ambient temp fluctuations, I think.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

JonesBeene  wrote:

This experiment is so similar to what has been done before over 30 years  –
> what is the one detail which makes it so much more robust?
>

Mizuno has some ideas about that which I hope to translate and put in a new
paper soon.

Ed Storms thinks it is the Pd mechanically bound to the Ni. Is "mechanical"
the word I am looking for? Not what he said . . . I mean forced together
rather than, say, melted together. He thinks the Pd expands more with
loading than the Ni, and that creates cracks in the Ni. As you know, he
thinks microscopic cracks are where the reaction occurs.


Most curiously – Mizuno indicates that LOADING of deuterium is no longer an
> important parameter.
>

I find that astounding. I looked at the data and could hardly believe it. I
spent a day or two recreating Mizuno's graphs and making other graphs to be
sure that's what it showed. Mizuno, on the other hand, seems nonchalant. He
has some material science explanations that I hope to translate soon. As I
mentioned here, the gist of it is that high loading in the Ni inhibits
adsorption in the Ni surface and the Ni-Pd interface. That's where he
thinks the reaction occurs. Ed also thinks that's where it occurs.

I still think high loading is essential with bulk Pd, but I guess it is a
special case, not applicable to all materials.

Ed pointed out something long ago that may be relevant. When bulk Pd is in
heat after death, the D emerge. Loading falls. It seems likely the excess
heat continues even when loading falls below the minimum level in McKubre's
graph. In other words, the heat does not actually need high loading. Maybe
what it needs is high loading to start up, but then high loading on the
surface and near surface as D emerges and "crowds" the near surface.

That's about my limit when it comes to theory!

- Jed

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Many thanks to Jed.  His long connection to Mizuno is valuable for sharing 
research with others.

Bob Cook


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:38:26 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

My guess is that the 2-D layers create 2-D systems of Pd with high magnetic 
fields and resulting in a  BEC of  paired D which are coupled to the electrons 
of the Ni mesh.  The spin energy of the Ni isotopes and maybe the Pd isotopes 
is given up to the lattice electrons of the Ni isotopes with nuclear 
transmutations and respective energy loss.

I am not sure I understand the reaction Jones suggests regarding D emissions at 
630 ev.

I think the nuclear transmissions are all EM involving nuclear spin states and 
associated energy differentials of the various isotopic spin energy.

A modification of the magnetic field and resonant conditions which are probably 
a function of temperature would provide data related to the nuclear reactions 
taking place.  A controlled frequency laser or other fine-tuned EM radiation 
should be applied with monitoring of energy production.  Isotopic shifts should 
also be monitored as a function of time.

Some nuclear magnetic resonance monitors may be gainfully employed to look for 
isotopic changes.  (I doubt Mizuno has such equipment, but no doubt it is 
readily available from vendors in Japan.}

The capabilities of the NMR machines should be available from vendors such as 
Nananalysis.

http://www.nanalysis.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9G37uf14gIVlcJkCh0e1gyvEAAYASAAEgJEwvD_BwE

Bob Cook

From: JonesBeene
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:01 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat


Robin,

Another looming possibility is that only sparse nuclear fusion reactions are 
happening but  most of  the thermal gain comes from BEC dominated processes 
where mass is converted into energy in such a way that  the thermal gain is 
more than chemical but less than fusion. Most likely the excess mass being 
converted  is related  to strong force dynamics via Quantum Chromodynamics.

It seems likely that nickel does not promote fusion and the tiny amount of 
palladium is insufficient for the large amount of heat Mizuno is seeing.

The possibility of non-fusion QCD reactions  is hinted at  in the previously 
cited Hora paper but it is not their interpretation. “Surface Effect for Gas 
Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR” By Heinrich 
Hora, George H Miley, Mark A Prelas, Kyu Jung Kim and Xiaoling Yang

This paper keeps turning up because of the “micrograin palladium” parameter – 
in contrast to bulk Pd. It is all about clustering of bosons which can lead to 
fusion on rare occasion, but otherwise  most of the heat of  the process can 
derive from the  clustering dynamics of the high temperature BEC.

Curiously, the microcracking structure popularized by Ed Storms could relate to 
the same NON-fusion pathway for gain despite his insistence otherwise. Quantum 
Chromodynamics can be seen a natural outcome of a disturbance in the large 
deuterium cluster – the very tight packing in the BEC which can be hundreds of 
atoms.

According to the paper -  deuterons collect in the cracks as a condensate,  in 
extremely dense accumulations at room temperature  but  fuse  rarely due to 
their low colliding energy of several 10 meV.  However, this is sufficiently 
high that van-der-Waals forces or the increased Casimir forces at the pm 
distance may lead to the fluid state where  deuterons clinch together tp  form 
clusters and then oscillate in and out of the BEC state.

It should be noted, that clusters with 100 deuterons of the size of one crystal 
void (Schottky defect) were measured in palladium ... These states could 
directly be identified from the deuteron emission energy of 630 eV  from clear 
measured mass
spectrometry.

Wow – they clearly measured this level of gain which cannot be related to 
fusion. 630 eV is a huge amount of energy compared to chemical but tiny for a 
nuclear processl -  and yet it can derive from a bulk clustering process where 
the only radiation would be extreme UV radiation and eventually lots of heat.


-

Should separation distance between metals prove to be important, then a very
small separation between two metal sheets can be obtained by etching a honeycomb
pattern into fine gold leaf, and using it to separate the two target metal
sheets.

This could allow gas pressures as high as 17 atm. to be used if so desired.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Norront is well funded and should be able to use NMR analysis to fully identify 
isotopic changes.  They already have the laser facility to alter magnetic 
fields and associated resonances.

Bob Cook



From: JonesBeene 
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 9:00:42 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

Here is a bit of a shocker if you haven’t been following this breaking news 
closely.

The connection of Mizuno to the Holmlid UDD (ultra dense deuterium) phenomenon 
may be closer than most observers are aware.

Late last year – after the earthquake – Mizuno supplied a test reactor to 
Sindre Zeiner-Gundersen and the Norront Fusion group – the main licensee of 
Holmlid.

https://coldfusionnow.org/tadahiko-mizuno-rewards-community/

Ruby confirms this in the Olafsson podcast. It may not have been the latest 
reactor version with the “Aladdin effect” (the magic effect of rubbing the 
genie’s lamp) but given all that has transpired recently – how long would it 
take a researcher to add this detail?

Few hours at most if you have the nickel mesh and a bit of Pd.

In fact, it is now becoming evident what Sindre Zeiner-Gundersen may have meant 
when he said that they are no longer using the Shell catalyst (iron oxide) of 
Holmlid but have made an improvement.

That was last winter. Could that improvements have been made already using 
either the Mizuno mesh or else a mechanical alloying of Pd and iron oxide?

Prediction – we should be hearing something soon from Norront to confirm the 
Mizuno collaboration and hopefully with even better results…




Another looming possibility is that only sparse nuclear fusion reactions are 
happening but  most of  the thermal gain comes from BEC dominated processes 
where mass is converted into energy in such a way that  the thermal gain is 
more than chemical but less than fusion. Most likely the excess mass being 
converted  is related  to strong force dynamics via Quantum Chromodynamics.

It seems likely that nickel does not promote fusion and the tiny amount of 
palladium is insufficient for the large amount of heat Mizuno is seeing.

The possibility of non-fusion QCD reactions  is hinted at  in the previously 
cited Hora paper but it is not their interpretation. “Surface Effect for Gas 
Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR” By Heinrich 
Hora, George H Miley, Mark A Prelas, Kyu Jung Kim and Xiaoling Yang

This paper keeps turning up because of the “micrograin palladium” parameter – 
in contrast to bulk Pd. It is all about clustering of bosons which can lead to 
fusion on rare occasion, but otherwise  most of the heat of  the process can 
derive from the  clustering dynamics of the high temperature BEC.

Curiously, the microcracking structure popularized by Ed Storms could relate to 
the same NON-fusion pathway for gain despite his insistence otherwise. Quantum 
Chromodynamics can be seen a natural outcome of a disturbance in the large 
deuterium cluster – the very tight packing in the BEC which can be hundreds of 
atoms.

According to the paper -  deuterons collect in the cracks as a condensate,  in 
extremely dense accumulations at room temperature  but  fuse  rarely due to 
their low colliding energy of several 10 meV.  However, this is sufficiently 
high that van-der-Waals forces or the increased Casimir forces at the pm 
distance may lead to the fluid state where  deuterons clinch together tp  form 
clusters and then oscillate in and out of the BEC state.

It should be noted, that clusters with 100 deuterons of the size of one crystal 
void (Schottky defect) were measured in palladium ... These states could 
directly be identified from the deuteron emission energy of 630 eV  from clear 
measured mass
spectrometry.

Wow – they clearly measured this level of gain which cannot be related to 
fusion. 630 eV is a huge amount of energy compared to chemical but tiny for a 
nuclear processl -  and yet it can derive from a bulk clustering process where 
the only radiation would be extreme UV radiation and eventually lots of heat.


-

Should separation distance between metals prove to be important, then a very
small separation between two metal sheets can be obtained by etching a honeycomb
pattern into fine gold leaf, and using it to separate the two target metal
sheets.

This could allow gas pressures as high as 17 atm. to be used if so desired.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

[Vo]:What is special about ~630 eV ?

[JonesBeene]

Of interest – could the heat of the Mizuno device be partly or mostly nuclear… 
but also … NON-fusion and NON-weak force ?

A mass-energy value which keeps turning up in dense hydrogen cluster papers is 
630 eV. It apparently relates to energy released by a cluster of dense hydrogen 
which has become disordered. This is a measured value – not a theory. This 
value  is mentioned many times by Miley and also by Mizuno.

This is an unusually strong  value energetically for chemistry but weak for 
nuclear.  For comparison the chemical bond energy of two deuterons to each 
other is 4.5 eV and the weakest beta emission is in the few keV range. 630 eV 
would be middle ground – a very soft x-ray which few meters can detect.

There is a Rydberg multiple at ~625 eV but it seems crazy to suggest that this 
would be a favored value for Mills’ theory as it doesn’t turn up in any of his 
papers.

The BEC cluster of deuterons which are bound to each other by a poorly 
understood mechanism are said to contain around 100 atoms by Miley’s group and 
less than that  by Holmlid who sees the structure as linear as opposed to 
globular. Apparently both seem to believe the numberof atoms  in a BEC is not 
random.

I am wondering if the common denominator between energies which are  hi-chem 
but  low-nuke has anything to do with Don Hotson’s EPO. 

Why?

The ionization potential of positronium is 6.8 eV. Hotson envisioned a 
universal background “aether” to be composed of EPOs – basically positronium in 
4 space. Presumably it would still have the same characteristic binding energy. 
Thus, In a cluster of around 100 deuterons at 2 pm separation, bound in some 
kind of stable arrangement, if about 93 of them acted as a single unit in 
decay, then possibly the result would be a single photon of this value 630 eV. 
That is a huge stretch as there is absolutely no reason to suspect that there 
could be such a favored number of atoms nor that they would act in unison.

But QM is strange and QCD is stranger. There are no satisfactory explanations 
for now - but the beauty of the recent news from Mizuno is that now - at long 
last there appears to be a justifiable expectation for finding on demand power 
at the kilowatt level without gamma radiation. 

The real clincher of the announcement is the image that has been imprinted on 
physicists everywhere - that fabulous image of the Mizuno reactor taken in from 
of a fireplace, reportedly providing winter time heat in one of the colder 
parts of Japan. An instant classic !!

Jones

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jack Cole]

It's not really clear to me whether he re-calibrated everything with the
new reactor.  In the first set of experiments (first paper), he had two
reactors and would switch between them.  The second set, he only shows a
50W calibration and 0W.  I graphed input power by reactor temp, and it
looks awfully uniform (and quite similar to a normal heating curve).  It
would be nice to have calibration data to add to the chart.

[image: image.png]

On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 3:28 PM Jed Rothwell  wrote:

> Here is some more info. from the invoice for the nickel meshes, from Inada
> Kanaami, Inc. It says:
>
> ニッケル200 綾織金網 0.055Ｘ180mesh 200X300 5枚
>
> Let me insert commas. That means:
>
> Nickel 200, twill wire mesh, 0.055 x 180 mesh, 200 x 300, 5 sheets
>
> Nickel-200 is 99.6% nickel. It is described here:
>
> https://www.magellanmetals.com/nickel-200
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

Here is some more info. from the invoice for the nickel meshes, from Inada
Kanaami, Inc. It says:

ニッケル200 綾織金網 0.055Ｘ180mesh 200X300 5枚

Let me insert commas. That means:

Nickel 200, twill wire mesh, 0.055 x 180 mesh, 200 x 300, 5 sheets

Nickel-200 is 99.6% nickel. It is described here:

https://www.magellanmetals.com/nickel-200

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

My guess is that the 2-D layers create 2-D systems of Pd with high magnetic 
fields and resulting in a  BEC of  paired D which are coupled to the electrons 
of the Ni mesh.  The spin energy of the Ni isotopes and maybe the Pd isotopes 
is given up to the lattice electrons of the Ni isotopes with nuclear 
transmutations and respective energy loss.

I am not sure I understand the reaction Jones suggests regarding D emissions at 
630 ev.

I think the nuclear transmissions are all EM involving nuclear spin states and 
associated energy differentials of the various isotopic spin energy.

A modification of the magnetic field and resonant conditions which are probably 
a function of temperature would provide data related to the nuclear reactions 
taking place.  A controlled frequency laser or other fine-tuned EM radiation 
should be applied with monitoring of energy production.  Isotopic shifts should 
also be monitored as a function of time.

Some nuclear magnetic resonance monitors may be gainfully employed to look for 
isotopic changes.  (I doubt Mizuno has such equipment, but no doubt it is 
readily available from vendors in Japan.}

The capabilities of the NMR machines should be available from vendors such as 
Nananalysis.

http://www.nanalysis.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIp9G37uf14gIVlcJkCh0e1gyvEAAYASAAEgJEwvD_BwE

Bob Cook

From: JonesBeene
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2019 7:01 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat


Robin,

Another looming possibility is that only sparse nuclear fusion reactions are 
happening but  most of  the thermal gain comes from BEC dominated processes 
where mass is converted into energy in such a way that  the thermal gain is 
more than chemical but less than fusion. Most likely the excess mass being 
converted  is related  to strong force dynamics via Quantum Chromodynamics.

It seems likely that nickel does not promote fusion and the tiny amount of 
palladium is insufficient for the large amount of heat Mizuno is seeing.

The possibility of non-fusion QCD reactions  is hinted at  in the previously 
cited Hora paper but it is not their interpretation. “Surface Effect for Gas 
Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR” By Heinrich 
Hora, George H Miley, Mark A Prelas, Kyu Jung Kim and Xiaoling Yang

This paper keeps turning up because of the “micrograin palladium” parameter – 
in contrast to bulk Pd. It is all about clustering of bosons which can lead to 
fusion on rare occasion, but otherwise  most of the heat of  the process can 
derive from the  clustering dynamics of the high temperature BEC.

Curiously, the microcracking structure popularized by Ed Storms could relate to 
the same NON-fusion pathway for gain despite his insistence otherwise. Quantum 
Chromodynamics can be seen a natural outcome of a disturbance in the large 
deuterium cluster – the very tight packing in the BEC which can be hundreds of 
atoms.

According to the paper -  deuterons collect in the cracks as a condensate,  in 
extremely dense accumulations at room temperature  but  fuse  rarely due to 
their low colliding energy of several 10 meV.  However, this is sufficiently 
high that van-der-Waals forces or the increased Casimir forces at the pm 
distance may lead to the fluid state where  deuterons clinch together tp  form 
clusters and then oscillate in and out of the BEC state.

It should be noted, that clusters with 100 deuterons of the size of one crystal 
void (Schottky defect) were measured in palladium ... These states could 
directly be identified from the deuteron emission energy of 630 eV  from clear 
measured mass
spectrometry.

Wow – they clearly measured this level of gain which cannot be related to 
fusion. 630 eV is a huge amount of energy compared to chemical but tiny for a 
nuclear processl -  and yet it can derive from a bulk clustering process where 
the only radiation would be extreme UV radiation and eventually lots of heat.


-

Should separation distance between metals prove to be important, then a very
small separation between two metal sheets can be obtained by etching a honeycomb
pattern into fine gold leaf, and using it to separate the two target metal
sheets.

This could allow gas pressures as high as 17 atm. to be used if so desired.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[JonesBeene]

Here is a bit of a shocker if you haven’t been following this breaking news 
closely.

The connection of Mizuno to the Holmlid UDD (ultra dense deuterium) phenomenon 
may be closer than most observers are aware.

Late last year – after the earthquake – Mizuno supplied a test reactor to 
Sindre Zeiner-Gundersen and the Norront Fusion group – the main licensee of 
Holmlid.

https://coldfusionnow.org/tadahiko-mizuno-rewards-community/

Ruby confirms this in the Olafsson podcast. It may not have been the latest 
reactor version with the “Aladdin effect” (the magic effect of rubbing the 
genie’s lamp) but given all that has transpired recently – how long would it 
take a researcher to add this detail? 

Few hours at most if you have the nickel mesh and a bit of Pd.

In fact, it is now becoming evident what Sindre Zeiner-Gundersen may have meant 
when he said that they are no longer using the Shell catalyst (iron oxide) of 
Holmlid but have made an improvement. 

That was last winter. Could that improvements have been made already using 
either the Mizuno mesh or else a mechanical alloying of Pd and iron oxide?

Prediction – we should be hearing something soon from Norront to confirm the 
Mizuno collaboration and hopefully with even better results…




Another looming possibility is that only sparse nuclear fusion reactions are 
happening but  most of  the thermal gain comes from BEC dominated processes 
where mass is converted into energy in such a way that  the thermal gain is 
more than chemical but less than fusion. Most likely the excess mass being 
converted  is related  to strong force dynamics via Quantum Chromodynamics.

It seems likely that nickel does not promote fusion and the tiny amount of 
palladium is insufficient for the large amount of heat Mizuno is seeing.

The possibility of non-fusion QCD reactions  is hinted at  in the previously 
cited Hora paper but it is not their interpretation. “Surface Effect for Gas 
Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR” By Heinrich 
Hora, George H Miley, Mark A Prelas, Kyu Jung Kim and Xiaoling Yang

This paper keeps turning up because of the “micrograin palladium” parameter – 
in contrast to bulk Pd. It is all about clustering of bosons which can lead to 
fusion on rare occasion, but otherwise  most of the heat of  the process can 
derive from the  clustering dynamics of the high temperature BEC.

Curiously, the microcracking structure popularized by Ed Storms could relate to 
the same NON-fusion pathway for gain despite his insistence otherwise. Quantum 
Chromodynamics can be seen a natural outcome of a disturbance in the large 
deuterium cluster – the very tight packing in the BEC which can be hundreds of 
atoms. 

According to the paper -  deuterons collect in the cracks as a condensate,  in 
extremely dense accumulations at room temperature  but  fuse  rarely due to 
their low colliding energy of several 10 meV.  However, this is sufficiently 
high that van-der-Waals forces or the increased Casimir forces at the pm 
distance may lead to the fluid state where  deuterons clinch together tp  form 
clusters and then oscillate in and out of the BEC state.

It should be noted, that clusters with 100 deuterons of the size of one crystal 
void (Schottky defect) were measured in palladium ... These states could 
directly be identified from the deuteron emission energy of 630 eV  from clear 
measured mass
spectrometry. 

Wow – they clearly measured this level of gain which cannot be related to 
fusion. 630 eV is a huge amount of energy compared to chemical but tiny for a 
nuclear processl -  and yet it can derive from a bulk clustering process where 
the only radiation would be extreme UV radiation and eventually lots of heat.


-

Should separation distance between metals prove to be important, then a very
small separation between two metal sheets can be obtained by etching a honeycomb
pattern into fine gold leaf, and using it to separate the two target metal
sheets.

This could allow gas pressures as high as 17 atm. to be used if so desired.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

RE: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[JonesBeene]

Robin,

Another looming possibility is that only sparse nuclear fusion reactions are 
happening but  most of  the thermal gain comes from BEC dominated processes 
where mass is converted into energy in such a way that  the thermal gain is 
more than chemical but less than fusion. Most likely the excess mass being 
converted  is related  to strong force dynamics via Quantum Chromodynamics.

It seems likely that nickel does not promote fusion and the tiny amount of 
palladium is insufficient for the large amount of heat Mizuno is seeing.

The possibility of non-fusion QCD reactions  is hinted at  in the previously 
cited Hora paper but it is not their interpretation. “Surface Effect for Gas 
Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR” By Heinrich 
Hora, George H Miley, Mark A Prelas, Kyu Jung Kim and Xiaoling Yang

This paper keeps turning up because of the “micrograin palladium” parameter – 
in contrast to bulk Pd. It is all about clustering of bosons which can lead to 
fusion on rare occasion, but otherwise  most of the heat of  the process can 
derive from the  clustering dynamics of the high temperature BEC.

Curiously, the microcracking structure popularized by Ed Storms could relate to 
the same NON-fusion pathway for gain despite his insistence otherwise. Quantum 
Chromodynamics can be seen a natural outcome of a disturbance in the large 
deuterium cluster – the very tight packing in the BEC which can be hundreds of 
atoms. 

According to the paper -  deuterons collect in the cracks as a condensate,  in 
extremely dense accumulations at room temperature  but  fuse  rarely due to 
their low colliding energy of several 10 meV.  However, this is sufficiently 
high that van-der-Waals forces or the increased Casimir forces at the pm 
distance may lead to the fluid state where  deuterons clinch together tp  form 
clusters and then oscillate in and out of the BEC state.

It should be noted, that clusters with 100 deuterons of the size of one crystal 
void (Schottky defect) were measured in palladium ... These states could 
directly be identified from the deuteron emission energy of 630 eV  from clear 
measured mass
spectrometry. 

Wow – they clearly measured this level of gain which cannot be related to 
fusion. 630 eV is a huge amount of energy compared to chemical but tiny for a 
nuclear processl -  and yet it can derive from a bulk clustering process where 
the only radiation would be extreme UV radiation and eventually lots of heat.


-

Should separation distance between metals prove to be important, then a very
small separation between two metal sheets can be obtained by etching a honeycomb
pattern into fine gold leaf, and using it to separate the two target metal
sheets.

This could allow gas pressures as high as 17 atm. to be used if so desired.

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Mizuno reports increased excess heat

[Jed Rothwell]

I made some minor changes to the paper and uploaded a new version. Biggest
change, p. 12:

Rubbing is done with a palladium rod, 100 mm long, diameter 5.0 mm, 99.95%
purity. Before rubbing the mesh, weight it with a precision scale. Then
vigorously rub the entire surface, left and right and up and down. Turn the
mesh over and rub the other side. Weigh the mesh again. Continue until the
weight increases by ~50 mg.



Some people say the images are blurry. I will check the Acrobat settings.