Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Le Oct 19, 2012 à 5:27 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com a écrit : By the way, I wonder if the way DGT blacked out some information in the pdf above was *very* weak on purpose. I was wondering why the presenter in one video (Hadjichristos?) was wearing a crisp, new NASA t-shirt. Also note two references made in passing: * National Instruments was to look into a glitch that was found in their software. * At least two of the testers were internationally recognized testing organizations I mentioned this earlier. The scuttlebutt is that the test witness is associated with NASA.
[Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
Hello group, Today, an official announcement about test results was posted on the Defkalion GT forum: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=4143 As previously promised, we are attaching two files that contain a signed protocol and a preliminary report by one independent international group on our technology. This marks the end of our first cycle of testing on our lab reactors, which lasted five months with 21 different experiments having been conducted by three different international organizations. The attached documents indicate the test results obtained by one such team. The other two international well known testing organizations obtained equally impressive results following similar protocols while using their own instrumentation. These results, data, and full analyses by each of the three testers will be published in peer reviewed Journals as applicable by each Journal. Names of the testers and the organizations they represent are still under strict NDAs and have therefore been removed from the attached documents. Defkalion will not disclose names. In the attached protocol the first page represents our RD path and our testing strategy. The test performed under this protocol can be identified under step 1.3.2, which represents the end of this section of our work in progress. Subsequent RD steps and tests on our pre-industrial prototypes have already been scheduled by third parties (as depicted in step 2 – Hyperion Multi-Reactor Kernel Testing). Additionally, all such tests have been video recorded. The following two links indicate a small sample of such recordings. · Explanation of the calorimetry set-up: (uploading in progress) · Triggering the reaction: (uploading in progress) Defkalion Green Technologies 19th October, 2012 Links: Exec Sum of Defkalion Test Review - Sept 2012.pdf [52.49 KiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=31 2012-09-07_Test Report Validation_Signed_No Names.pdf [3.52 MiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=30 Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
Test Results: Defkalion demonstrated 1 COP of accumulated total energy output divided by accumulated total energy input (exact total COP will be provided in final report) Defkalion demonstrated control of reaction (start, stop, increase, decrease) Defkalion demonstrated a reaction output greater than equivalent chemical energy from mass of internal components [But the signature of the third party is blacked out. Why??]
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Exec Sum of Defkalion Test Review - Sept 2012.pdf [52.49 KiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=31 By the way, I wonder if the way DGT blacked out some information in the pdf above was *very* weak on purpose. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Today, an official announcement about test results was posted on the Defkalion GT forum: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17t=4143 Two videos have been added: Explanation of the calorimetry set-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvmWGeryKQc Triggering the reaction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yax8oHzlXkI Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
Names of the testers and the organizations they represent are still under strict NDAs and have therefore been removed from the attached documents. Defkalion will not disclose names. http://www.lenrforum.eu/viewtopic.php?f=27t=749p=2692#p2692 My opinion is such, but I'm not expert, just trusting the professionals. You critics welcome: The protocol is simple flow calorimetry with aqueous fluid (glycol+water, or water). Tester is happy with DGT cooperation and sincerity. The results imply sure a COP3. Not chemical for sure. Test repeated. Calibration coherent. Reaction is controlled at will. The flow calorimetry with those fluid does not allow good performance. As said before test lead to sparkplug shorting, even breaking a test in process at the end. It work, yet performance shown are not fantastic, because of sparkplug for endurance, because of fluid used for calorimetry setup about performance. Normally non chemical COP3 is a revolution in physics, but I expect nobody except us will care, as for the rest. Maybe the name of the tester can change that, but there are already big name, and the only names that I imagine powerful enough are Science Magazine, Scientific American, MIT boss. Even Nasdaq, DowJones companies, or N/Dxxx state institutions cannot. 2012/10/19 Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com Test Results: Defkalion demonstrated 1 COP of accumulated total energy output divided by accumulated total energy input (exact total COP will be provided in final report) Defkalion demonstrated control of reaction (start, stop, increase, decrease) Defkalion demonstrated a reaction output greater than equivalent chemical energy from mass of internal components [But the signature of the third party is blacked out. Why??]
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: 2012-09-07_Test Report Validation_Signed_No Names.pdf [3.52 MiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=30 An earlier version with names of this test report has been posted on ecatnews.com, pulled from the browser cache of a user who happened to stumble upon it: http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdf The other 2-pages, 52 kBytes report was also reported to be originally longer and more detailed, but it looks like that version is no longer available to the public. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
what a security tragedy... hopeful it is not Afghan war infiltrated agents list. only the big boss of NASA might feel uncomfortable (yet happy secretly, that they will be heroes soon, after bloody insults by the mainstream scientists). 2012/10/19 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2012-10-19 14:12, Akira Shirakawa wrote: 2012-09-07_Test Report Validation_Signed_No Names.pdf [3.52 MiB] http://www.defkalion-energy.**com/forum/download/file.php?**id=30http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=30 An earlier version with names of this test report has been posted on ecatnews.com, pulled from the browser cache of a user who happened to stumble upon it: http://ecatnews.com/wp-**content/uploads/2012/10/2012-** 09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdfhttp://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdf The other 2-pages, 52 kBytes report was also reported to be originally longer and more detailed, but it looks like that version is no longer available to the public. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On 2012-10-19 17:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote: http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdf On page 18: Test observer, Michael Nelson, was asked to come in lieu of Micheal Melich due to Dr. Melich's current constraints [...] Michael Melich is on Rossi's Board of Advisers too: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?page_id=2 This might sound like a stupid question, but since Rossi and his team were so adamant that Defkalion GT had absolutely nothing in their hands, now that Micheal Nelson positively reported for Melich on the excess heat from DGT's reactor, will they change their mind? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
maybe are the current constraints the fact that he is in the e-cat board...??? about Rossi, clear that he is lying all the time... on COP theoretically limited to 6 on RFG needed on DGT having nothing probably on sales and delivery of MW e-cats... add to that his errors, that he does not admit... anyway from the satellites around I infer that he have something valuable... but what? When I want to guess what is true I look at Proia. 2012/10/19 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2012-10-19 17:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote: http://ecatnews.com/wp-**content/uploads/2012/10/2012-** 09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdfhttp://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/2012-09-07_Test-protocol-signed.pdf On page 18: Test observer, Michael Nelson, was asked to come in lieu of Micheal Melich due to Dr. Melich's current constraints [...] Michael Melich is on Rossi's Board of Advisers too: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-**physics.com/?page_id=2http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?page_id=2 This might sound like a stupid question, but since Rossi and his team were so adamant that Defkalion GT had absolutely nothing in their hands, now that Micheal Nelson positively reported for Melich on the excess heat from DGT's reactor, will they change their mind? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: · Explanation of the calorimetry set-up: (uploading in progress) · Triggering the reaction: (uploading in progress) · Explanation of the calorimetry set-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvmWGeryKQcfeature=youtu.be · Triggering the reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yax8oHzlXkIfeature=youtu.be
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Just like Rossi --- last signature box on the main report : On behalf of [Redacted] The customer? Dr. Michael Melich
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
At 11:01 AM 10/19/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Unfortunately, the result is only that it SUGGESTS a COP of 1 Since Defkalion specs have COP in the 20-30 range this seems rather disappointing. The blog goes on to say : The objective of this test was to get only COP1.1 with a noise to signal ratio less than 10%. We got COP3 very easy with noise to signal less than 4%. Note that the tested reactor R5 was not designed for maximum COP but to get maximum lab safety and control /understanding over the phenomena.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Gee, Jed, did you set up that flow calorimeter? :-) Not me! I don't do secret tests. I don't sign NDAs. If you don't want the world to know, I don't want to hear about it. I have no objection to people keeping secrets, but I do not want to hear those secrets. Generally speaking, the value of information is inversely proportional to the extent it is kept secret. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
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Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT announces test results
Le Oct 19, 2012 à 5:27 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com a écrit : By the way, I wonder if the way DGT blacked out some information in the pdf above was *very* weak on purpose. I was wondering why the presenter in one video (Hadjichristos?) was wearing a crisp, new NASA t-shirt. Also note two references made in passing: * National Instruments was to look into a glitch that was found in their software. * At least two of the testers were internationally recognized testing organizations Eric
