[Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Hello group, Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk (credits to 22passi for the news: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/lettera-aperta-da-brian-josephson.html ) Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
From Akira: Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk From Josephson: ... It appears that the UK Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC), unlike its US counterpart, has an open mind regarding your reactor, ... Priceless! That made me laugh. This is just my opinion, and my opinion might be wrong but I suspect Rossi will decline Josephson's invitation - for the simple reason that Rossi does not trust the scientific establishment. I suspect he fears they would either attempt to falsify his work, or screw up the results so bad that it would make him and his work look like a scam operation. Alas, it would be nice if Rossi would follow up on Josephson's invitation. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not taking his word is really, really bad for his business... 2011/11/21 OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com From Akira: Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk From Josephson: ... It appears that the UK Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC), unlike its US counterpart, has an open mind regarding your reactor, ... Priceless! That made me laugh. This is just my opinion, and my opinion might be wrong but I suspect Rossi will decline Josephson's invitation - for the simple reason that Rossi does not trust the scientific establishment. I suspect he fears they would either attempt to falsify his work, or screw up the results so bad that it would make him and his work look like a scam operation. Alas, it would be nice if Rossi would follow up on Josephson's invitation. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
From Daniel: Well, the skepticism towards Rossi will be much worse if he refuses Josephson's invitation. This guy is completely off mainstream and not taking his word is really, really bad for his business... IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select corporations who believe in his technology he would give a fart about trying to appease the scientific establishment. In fact it's possible that trying to appease them would be counterproductive in the sense that it would draw too much attention to his operations. At this delicate stage of the game Rossi knows he is exceedingly vulnerable since I gather he doesn't have adequate patent protection. Best to let the rest of the world believe he's a scam artist. Doesn't matter to Rossi, as long as a select few (who have performed due diligence) think otherwise. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, if Rossi feels he has successfully pocketed a few select corporations who believe in his technology he would give a fart about trying to appease the scientific establishment. He never did a fart about that. If he has customers, all the more reason to ignore scientists. In fact it's possible that trying to appease them would be counterproductive in the sense that it would draw too much attention to his operations. I agree. My guess is, that is what he is thinking. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
I am glad Josephson did this but unfortunately I expect Rossi will decline the offer. He says he does not want to do tests, and he means it. Defkalion, on the other hand, said that by the end of this month: A full specs sheet as well as product's basic design and their scheduled third party testing will be released as per our announcement of November 14th. Let us hope they mean that. They announced similar plans earlier. Evidently the schedule slipped. That is not surprising, given the difficulty of developing this product and the commotion with Rossi. They originally announced they would publish the Energy Ministry documents about their reactor in mid-summer, in July as I recall. They did not meet that deadline and never explained why. Either they did not meet the deadline, or the Ministry did not. Things are chaotic in Greece these days. Perhaps that is part of the problem. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
On 2011-11-21 18:26, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, [...] Well, given this answer he just gave a reader on JONP, I doubt he will accept Josephson's suggestion: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=14#comment-126526 Andrea Rossi November 21st, 2011 at 4:58 PM Dear Ivan: We are no more in the mode of public tests, the times of public tests are over. We are manufacturing plants for our Customers, and our Customers will test the plants they have bought. The proposal of Celani is just a provocation, and an insult to all the people that already made tests. We are working for our Customers, not for the curiosity of our competitors. By the way: Celani is using since decades the money of the taxpayer to make his apparatuses: he should employ his time to make worth the public money he is using, instead of going to try to “test” the work of others. Warm Regards, A.R. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: We are no more in the mode of public tests, the times of public tests are over. We are manufacturing plants for our Customers, and our Customers will test the plants they have bought. The proposal of Celani is just a provocation, and an insult to all the people that already made tests. We are working for our Customers, not for the curiosity of our competitors. By the way: Celani is using since decades the money of the taxpayer to make his apparatuses: he should employ his time to make worth the public money he is using, instead of going to try to “test” the work of others. Warm Regards, A.R. That is a ridiculous, tangential, and totally inappropriate defensive response. Why would Rossi consider a reasonable proposal to conduct an independent test a provocation and an insult? Unless of course, his device would not pass the test?
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Rossi wrote: We are no more in the mode of public tests, the times of public tests are over. We are manufacturing plants for our Customers, and our Customers will test the plants they have bought. Rossi heroically defies the world, silhouetted by the setting sun. The proposal of Celani is just a provocation, and an insult to all the people that already made tests. Yup, that's what he told me when I said I would bring my own instruments. It would insult Levi et al. He drives me crazy. Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. He has done a lot of things right. If he succeeds, people will say this business strategy was the stuff of genius. In the future, they will teach his methods at the Harvard Business School. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Jed sez: ... Still, [Rossi] appears to be selling. He hired SI. He has done a lot of things right. If he succeeds, people will say this business strategy was the stuff of genius. In the future, they will teach his methods at the Harvard Business School. Grad School Course: Rossi Business Strategies - Business #671, Semesters (1 2), 4 Credits Each Be afraid! Be very afraid! ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. Who is SI? Do you mean National Instruments? T
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Terry Blanton wrote: Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. Who is SI? Do you mean National Instruments? Yes, NI. Sorry. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: Still, he appears to be selling. He hired SI. Who is SI? Do you mean National Instruments? Yes, NI. Sorry. No worries. I just don't want to miss anything in this exciting adventure. We old farts don't have much to excite us normally. :-) T
RE: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Oops! I forgot the course description! Let me try again: Rossi Business Strategies - Business #671, Semesters (1 2), 4 Credits Each How to succeed in business by faking out the competition with disinformation designed to make your own business appear to be a massive scam operation as perceived by your competitors. This two-semester course studies the Rossi Phenomenon which ultimately introduced a major commercial paradigm shift in global energy distribution networks in the early 21st century. We will focus on why Rossi continues to be fiercely debated within business schools. Did Rossi consciously manipulate his own disinformation campaign, a strategy that appeared to have skillfully faked out the global fossil industry for more than a decade, and as such, helped secure him a crucial foothold in developing a brand new energy market consisting of asynchronous distribution networks, as several historians have claimed. Or was Rossi's success due to nothing more than a random throw of the dice, a rare collection of eccentricities that ultimately produced the first trillionaire known to the world. Course materials: Macroeconomics, by Fred Zuccerson; Business ethics, by Akartha Zimbabua; Pamphlet Vortex-l archives, circa 2011- 2015; Pamphlet The collapse of New Energy Times Archives, circa 2011-2013. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
RE: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Alumni have gone on to produce such amazing products as: Pfizer's cancer-eradicating miracle pill marketed under the brand name Hey, This Pill is Just Gonna Kill You and Most Certainly Not Cure Your Cancer and Splatter-on-the-Ground brand jet packs, known for revolutionizing personal transportation. OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Oops! I forgot the course description! Let me try again: Rossi Business Strategies - Business #671, Semesters (1 2), 4 Credits Each How to succeed in business by faking out the competition with disinformation designed to make your own business appear to be a massive scam operation as perceived by your competitors. This two-semester course studies the Rossi Phenomenon which ultimately introduced a major commercial paradigm shift in global energy distribution networks in the early 21st century. We will focus on why Rossi continues to be fiercely debated within business schools. Did Rossi consciously manipulate his own disinformation campaign, a strategy that appeared to have skillfully faked out the global fossil industry for more than a decade, and as such, helped secure him a crucial foothold in developing a brand new energy market consisting of asynchronous distribution networks, as several historians have claimed. Or was Rossi's success due to nothing more than a random throw of the dice, a rare collection of eccentricities that ultimately produced the first trillionaire known to the world. Course materials: Macroeconomics, by Fred Zuccerson; Business ethics, by Akartha Zimbabua; Pamphlet Vortex-l archives, circa 2011- 2015; Pamphlet The collapse of New Energy Times Archives, circa 2011-2013. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: *How to succeed in business by faking out the competition with disinformation designed to make your own business appear to be a massive scam operation as perceived by your competitors.* This two-semester course studies the Rossi Phenomenon . . . . . . .Or was Rossi's success due to nothing more than a random throw of the dice, a rare collection of eccentricities that ultimately produced the first trillionaire known to the world. EXACTLY. That's hilarious. But seriously, many large changes in history do start off as small, random events and the right people being in the right place at the right time. Jobs might well have ended up a maladjusted failure if he had not met Wozniak. Wilbur Wright might have become a conscientious but long forgotten teacher in an Ohio town if he had not been bashed in face with a hockey puck in 1885, and nearly killed. During his two-year recovery he gave up all hope of a college education and going out into the wider world, and instead stuck around Dayton with his younger brother, manufacturing bicycles. Sometimes people are in the wrong place at the wrong time, such as Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria on June 28, 1914. I suppose there would have been a war sooner or later, but perhaps not. You cannot run history over again to find out. Perhaps war might have erupted some years later, and with different weapons it might have ended more quickly with an allied victory, instead of 9 million people slaughtered. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Alumni have gone on to produce such amazing products as: Pfizer's cancer-eradicating miracle pill marketed under the brand name Hey, This Pill is Just Gonna Kill You and Most Certainly Not Cure Your Cancer . . . Right! And if you suppose that's unthinkable, look at some of the ads around you, and try to imagine what they would have provoked in the 1930s or 1950s. The Benetton ad of the Pope kissing an Imam went a little too far, but there are any number of others like it that would faze nobody today, not to mention bumper stickers such as it's okay to be gay. - Jed
