Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
Dave,

If my understanding is correct, the following video is evidence of a closed
wormhole through the Earth with two black hole particles orbiting through
it, we named the particles Ike and Eduardo.

Each particle weighed approx. 1x10e12-1x10e14 kg and traveled at sub
relativistic speeds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEvCP7TXIEU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-b37stBOU

The popping on the video is most likely the electromagnetic pulse an
orbiting particle.

The trick is jumping aboard without getting nuked from beta decay.

Stewart
darkmattersalot.com




On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:24 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 It would be fantastic if warp drives were possible, but they must not be
 available because we are not currently being over run by alien visitors.

  Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 12:48 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

  Here are some relevant physics.SE questions:


 http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/38121/harold-whites-work-on-the-alcubierre-warp-drive

 http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/8850/alcubierre-drive-clarification-on-relativistic-effects

  The Alcubierre warp drive then has a serious departure between local
 laws of physics and global ones, which is not apparent in the universe or
 de Sitter spacetime. The Alcubierre warp drive is then important as a
 gadget, along with wormholes as related things, to understand how nature
 prevents closed timelike curves and related processes. (Six votes.)

  This quote reminds me of the transport ships in Dune with the navigators
 that David Lynch renders like whales:

  Relativistic effects happen when you travel near light speed through
 space-time. With the Alcubierre drive, you don't travel through space-time,
 but remain stationary and the space-time around you is warped in a way that
 brings you closer to your destination. So if it only took a week for you,
 it would only take a week for your observers. (Two votes.)

  Eric


 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive

  Has anyone competent to understand the arguments read the 1994 paper?

  Jeff





Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-28 Thread ChemE Stewart
I suggest as soon as possible everyone get very familiar with sites like

http://www.spaceweather.com

There are also apps that monitor and alert you of solar flares through your
phone.

It appears to me that the ground level events (GLEs) from large coronal
mass ejections (CMEs) are detecting when massive energetic particles are
striking Earth as they are setting off proton and neutron detectors on
Earth from their Beta Decay.  Many of them then begin their orbit over
months.  Hurricane Isaac and the Bayou Corne sinkhole were proceeded by a
massive GLE which struck North America in May 2012.

I suggest everyone setup an auto warning on their phones.  It might be the
last signal you get before a big X Class EMF strikes Earth and power goes
out...Then go get underneath lots of concrete and have a bike close by
(maybe in your trunk) if it fries your electronic fuel injection in your
car.  You might not need lights anyway for a few months since after the
1859 Carrington Super Flare event the night sky was lit up like a Christmas
Tree for months from the massive Aurora.  Also protect yourselves from
ionizing radiation.

In 2013, with two Comets on close approach to the sun, she may have a bad
spell. I know some of you think I am full of crap, but I could care less
and I am being very serious.

Stewart
darkmattersalot.com



On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 8:12 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dave,

 If my understanding is correct, the following video is evidence of a
 closed wormhole through the Earth with two black hole particles orbiting
 through it, we named the particles Ike and Eduardo.

 Each particle weighed approx. 1x10e12-1x10e14 kg and traveled at sub
 relativistic speeds

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEvCP7TXIEU
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-b37stBOU

 The popping on the video is most likely the electromagnetic pulse an
 orbiting particle.

 The trick is jumping aboard without getting nuked from beta decay.

 Stewart
 darkmattersalot.com




 On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 1:24 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

 It would be fantastic if warp drives were possible, but they must not be
 available because we are not currently being over run by alien visitors.

  Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 12:48 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

  Here are some relevant physics.SE questions:


 http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/38121/harold-whites-work-on-the-alcubierre-warp-drive

 http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/8850/alcubierre-drive-clarification-on-relativistic-effects

  The Alcubierre warp drive then has a serious departure between local
 laws of physics and global ones, which is not apparent in the universe or
 de Sitter spacetime. The Alcubierre warp drive is then important as a
 gadget, along with wormholes as related things, to understand how nature
 prevents closed timelike curves and related processes. (Six votes.)

  This quote reminds me of the transport ships in Dune with the
 navigators that David Lynch renders like whales:

  Relativistic effects happen when you travel near light speed through
 space-time. With the Alcubierre drive, you don't travel through space-time,
 but remain stationary and the space-time around you is warped in a way that
 brings you closer to your destination. So if it only took a week for you,
 it would only take a week for your observers. (Two votes.)

  Eric


 On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive

  Has anyone competent to understand the arguments read the 1994 paper?

  Jeff






Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-28 Thread mixent
In reply to  David Roberson's message of Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:24:31 -0500 (EST):
Hi,
[snip]
It would be fantastic if warp drives were possible, but they must not be 
available because we are not currently being over run by alien visitors.


Dave

Given the number of UFO sightings, I would be inclined to say that we are.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-28 Thread Harvey Norris
Thanx for this story, luckily I saw it in my spam folder,(which barely works at 
all in yahoo mail) before it got deleted. I tried then to make a reply, but 
this io9.com group has very strict admission standards. It wouldnt accept any 
user names ect and when I finally got in it said I could only post to the 
newbies category. Hell I cant even find what I posted there except by doing a 
search from my user name! the moderator wiped out my you tube entries as 
suspicious. Then I went back to this article and posted a reply anyways, and lo 
and behold it went through! For those of you who havent seen my Topological 
Proof of Time Distortion it is now listed there on the url you submitted as a 
reply. Thanx for posting this as I like to expose my work across a broad 
spectrum. If any vortex members wish they can reply about my video at the 
bottom reply icon listed with that story.

Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/

--- On Wed, 11/28/12, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com
Subject: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 12:22 AM

http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive

Has anyone competent to understand the arguments read the 1994 paper?

Jeff



Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-27 Thread Eric Walker
Here are some relevant physics.SE questions:

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/38121/harold-whites-work-on-the-alcubierre-warp-drive
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/8850/alcubierre-drive-clarification-on-relativistic-effects

The Alcubierre warp drive then has a serious departure between local laws
of physics and global ones, which is not apparent in the universe or de
Sitter spacetime. The Alcubierre warp drive is then important as a gadget,
along with wormholes as related things, to understand how nature prevents
closed timelike curves and related processes. (Six votes.)

This quote reminds me of the transport ships in Dune with the navigators
that David Lynch renders like whales:

Relativistic effects happen when you travel near light speed through
space-time. With the Alcubierre drive, you don't travel through space-time,
but remain stationary and the space-time around you is warped in a way that
brings you closer to your destination. So if it only took a week for you,
it would only take a week for your observers. (Two votes.)

Eric


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive

 Has anyone competent to understand the arguments read the 1994 paper?

 Jeff




Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL

2012-11-27 Thread David Roberson
It would be fantastic if warp drives were possible, but they must not be 
available because we are not currently being over run by alien visitors.


Dave



-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Nov 28, 2012 12:48 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Apparently plausible (!?!?) FTL


Here are some relevant physics.SE questions:


http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/38121/harold-whites-work-on-the-alcubierre-warp-drive
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/8850/alcubierre-drive-clarification-on-relativistic-effects


The Alcubierre warp drive then has a serious departure between local laws of 
physics and global ones, which is not apparent in the universe or de Sitter 
spacetime. The Alcubierre warp drive is then important as a gadget, along with 
wormholes as related things, to understand how nature prevents closed timelike 
curves and related processes. (Six votes.)


This quote reminds me of the transport ships in Dune with the navigators that 
David Lynch renders like whales:


Relativistic effects happen when you travel near light speed through 
space-time. With the Alcubierre drive, you don't travel through space-time, but 
remain stationary and the space-time around you is warped in a way that brings 
you closer to your destination. So if it only took a week for you, it would 
only take a week for your observers. (Two votes.)


Eric




On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Jeff Berkowitz pdx...@gmail.com wrote:

http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive



Has anyone competent to understand the arguments read the 1994 paper?


Jeff