Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On 20-Nov-11 02:14, Terry Blanton wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Mary Yugomaryyu...@gmail.com wrote: in Google scholar and got only 5 pages of returns, none of which was relevant. I did the same for kidney failure chlorine drinking water and got 900+ returns. However, most have to do with eliminating microorganisms from water *using* chlorine. So I dunno. There may be a reason but I sure can't find it. If you find out the reason to avoid chlorinated (or chloramine-ated) tap water, let me/us know. Maybe it's a prohibition against tap water and not chlorine? I never heard it before. Ackshully, it's the mineral content which concerns Dr. Jacobson. Polycystic patients are prone to kidney stones. (nice alliteration, eh?) T I had kidney stones until I discovered NQI: http://www.gauerdobrasil.com.br/produtos-detalhe-nqi.htm Mark Jordan
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:01 AM, MJ feli...@gmail.com wrote: I had kidney stones until I discovered NQI: http://www.gauerdobrasil.com.**br/produtos-detalhe-nqi.htmhttp://www.gauerdobrasil.com.br/produtos-detalhe-nqi.htm Mark Jordan The advice on that page is rather general. What part of it seemed to solve your issue. I am interested because I have a close friend who suffered repeated bouts of kidney stones and required several procedures to remove them.
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On 20-Nov-11 16:00, Mary Yugo wrote: On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:01 AM, MJ feli...@gmail.com mailto:feli...@gmail.com wrote: I had kidney stones until I discovered NQI: http://www.gauerdobrasil.com.br/produtos-detalhe-nqi.htm Mark Jordan The advice on that page is rather general. What part of it seemed to solve your issue. I am interested because I have a close friend who suffered repeated bouts of kidney stones and required several procedures to remove them. It seems they don't advertise NQI for dissolving kidney stones, but it really works according to several testimonials: http://www.gauerdobrasil.com.br/en/depoimentos.htm http://www.acasadonqi.com.br/nqi-for-sale.htm http://www.calculorenal.org/nqi.htm Mark Jordan
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:18 PM, MJ feli...@gmail.com wrote: It seems they don't advertise NQI for dissolving kidney stones, but it really works according to several testimonials: I don't suppose anyone here needs warnings about the difference between testimonials and double blind controlled studies when it comes to making medical decisions.
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
Also (sorry): what's NQI again?
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
Meanwhile, as further evidence of world insanity: http://www.iter.org/construction/layout work progresses.
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
And, proving that it is not just Europe that is insane: https://lasers.llnl.gov/newsroom/project_status/ Nice Hohlraums! T
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
I really would love to see Rossi-LENR succeed, while billions are blown on ITER. It would be like a janitor at CERN discovering the Higgs boson in his mop bucket. Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Meanwhile, as further evidence of world insanity: http://www.iter.org/construction/layout work progresses.
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
NIF cost $4,200,000,000 ITER cost $14,000,000,000 Afganistan war cost $477,000,000,000 Iraq war cost $804,000,000,000 http://costofwar.com/en/ T
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
Message whispered to me: Yes you are missing something. In physiology there is a well known phenomenon known as water induced diuresis. Taking in more water than you really need triggers a hormonal feedback mechanism from the pituitary gland to the kidney so that you pee out more water than you ingest, and you dehydrate.It also results in the excretion of critical salts e.g. Na and K and upsets the electrolyte balance in the blood. A number of people with pathologic convictions about toxins in their bodies who consumed large amounts of water to flush them out, have actually died of dehydration. The 8 glasses of water a day widely promulgated is nonsense. Drink when you are thirsty; your body tells you when it needs more water. You ingest lots of water in food in a balanced diet. The regulation has obviously not been well explained, it is likely geared to trying to prevent the kind of event I described. Arrrgh. Like we never heard of water poisoning. T
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
I just read this briefly . . . A few sentences gave me the impression the regulators are be saying that bottled water is no better than tap water for hydration. In the U.S. bottled water produces regularly make claims (or insinuations, really) that their product is particularly pure or good for you. These claims are rubbish; bottled water in most U.S. cities is as contaminated, or more contaminated, than tap water. U.S. regulators should crack down on these claims. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I just read this briefly . . . A few sentences gave me the impression the regulators are be saying that bottled water is no better than tap water for hydration. So, I hope. But that is not what is reported in the article. My wife has a kidney disorder and is not allowed tap water. So, we drink purified water. Tap water contains chlorine and fluorine in most municipalities. I once tested the chlorine level in my tap water and found it unsafe to swim in, according to my pool test kit. Seriously! T
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: My wife has a kidney disorder and is not allowed tap water. So, we drink purified water. That sounds strange. Is it from her nephrologist/internist or is it from some nurse practitioner, physician assistant or holistic source? Most municipal water is quite good. I'm not sure what tripped your pool kit but it sounds like it made a mistake. heh... did you calibrate it and run a blank?
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: My wife has a kidney disorder and is not allowed tap water. So, we drink purified water. That sounds strange. Is it from her nephrologist/internist or is it from some nurse practitioner, physician assistant or holistic source? Endocrinologist, Dr David H Jacobson, best in town. Treating a genetic disorder, polycystic kidney. Most municipal water is quite good. I'm not sure what tripped your pool kit but it sounds like it made a mistake. heh... did you calibrate it and run a blank? http://www.pure-earth.com/chlorine.html I won't even get into fluorine, a communist plot to contaminate our precious bodily fluids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0he-LZNzVg0 Children's ice cream! OMG! T
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: My wife has a kidney disorder and is not allowed tap water. So, we drink purified water. That sounds strange. Is it from her nephrologist/internist or is it from some nurse practitioner, physician assistant or holistic source? Endocrinologist, Dr David H Jacobson, best in town. Treating a genetic disorder, polycystic kidney. I suggest following the doctor's orders to the letter. Having said that, I'd ask him a bit more about it. I did the following search: polycystic kidney chlorine drinking water in Google scholar and got only 5 pages of returns, none of which was relevant. I did the same for kidney failure chlorine drinking water and got 900+ returns. However, most have to do with eliminating microorganisms from water *using* chlorine. So I dunno. There may be a reason but I sure can't find it. If you find out the reason to avoid chlorinated (or chloramine-ated) tap water, let me/us know. Maybe it's a prohibition against tap water and not chlorine? I never heard it before.
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: in Google scholar and got only 5 pages of returns, none of which was relevant. I did the same for kidney failure chlorine drinking water and got 900+ returns. However, most have to do with eliminating microorganisms from water *using* chlorine. So I dunno. There may be a reason but I sure can't find it. If you find out the reason to avoid chlorinated (or chloramine-ated) tap water, let me/us know. Maybe it's a prohibition against tap water and not chlorine? I never heard it before. Ackshully, it's the mineral content which concerns Dr. Jacobson. Polycystic patients are prone to kidney stones. (nice alliteration, eh?) T
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Ackshully, it's the mineral content which concerns Dr. Jacobson. Polycystic patients are prone to kidney stones. That makes sense but it tends to rule out ordinary bottled water. I imagine she has to drink distilled. And also to be cautious of minerals in general. I wonder how she manages to get enough calcium. And she probably has to be careful of foods that metabolize to oxalates and urates because both are frequently stone components. It must be a difficult regimen. Sorry to the rest for the digression but this was interesting to me.
Re: [Vo]:Water Cannot Prevent Dehydration
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: And also to be cautious of minerals in general. I wonder how she manages to get enough calcium. Chelated mineral supplements don't contribute to stones. Also, we roast our chickens long and slow and consume the bones. And eating the cartilage prevents joint deterioration in us old folks. ;-) T
