Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread K. Peachey
So this is the current list:

* CategoryTree
Is this really a feature that most people would use?

* Cite
Is this something that most people really use on external sites? how
popular (i'm saying this because i'm probably one of the rarer people
that don't run/need it on any of my installs)

* Confirm Edit

* DismissableSiteNotice
Again, how many people? this seems a suggestion for the sake of it,
but i guess its up to other people.

* ExpandTemplates
Is this something most sites really need?

* Gadgets
* ParserFunctions
* Renameuser

* TitleKey
Couldn't we just fix search so it was case insensitive compared to
needing to bundle something?

* Validator
There is really no need for it, unless there is a extenstion that
needs it that we are also bundlering we shouldn't just randomly stick
stuff in because it might be nice

* Vector

* WikiEditor
Possibly I guess, although I would actually prefer it in core compared
to a extension, I'm not a fan of how it takes a little longer to load
and the screen jumps around.


It would probably be nicer to set up ED to record stats on which
extensions get downloaded the most and then use that as a starting
point for the discussions on what to bundle.

Also have we even looked at security issues side of things? because
even if they aren't installed the files will still be sitting there on
the server unless someone deletes them from their extensions
directory...

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89679]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Tim Starling changed the status of MediaWiki.r89679.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89679#c0
Commit summary:

MFT r89529, r89532

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89727]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Tim Starling changed the status of MediaWiki.r89727.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89727#c0
Commit summary:

1.17: Back out r87711 per CR on r89676

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89739]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Tim Starling changed the status of MediaWiki.r89739.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89739#c0
Commit summary:

Revert r89374, r88936

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r88936]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Tim Starling changed the status of MediaWiki.r88936.

Old Status: resolved
New Status: reverted

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/88936#c0
Commit summary:

This needs to be forward-ported to trunk.

Fix for Bug #28172 - wfGetDB called when it shouldn't be

Avoid an ominous error (“Mediawiki tried to access the database via
wfGetDB(). This is not allowed.”) by passing db handles to user
methods that would otherwise have to use wfGetDB().

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89374]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Tim Starling changed the status of MediaWiki.r89374.

Old Status: resolved
New Status: reverted

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89374#c0
Commit summary:

Finish fix for bug #28172 (“wfGetDB called when it shouldn't be”).
Will now forward port to trunk

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89252]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Freakolowsky posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89252.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89252#c17891
Commit summary:

* MFT r89250. only the tableExists function ad 1.17 already supports 
user-dbname difference

Comment:

r89759.

Without this fix updating on installs where username != dbname will not work as 
it looks for tables in the wrong place and always tries to install instead of 
upgrade.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89747]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User F.trott posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89747.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89747#c17892
Commit summary:

followup r89740: remove wfMsgReplaceArgs, small fix to messages

Comment:

Ok, will take them out with the next commit. Thanks for the review. :)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89757]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Catrope changed the status of MediaWiki.r89757.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89757#c0
Commit summary:

Fix for WikiEditor iframe extension on IE: use $.inArray() instead of 
Array.indexOf(), which is not in earlier JS standards as implemented in IE 8.

Use of Array.indexOf was added in r74271 when the iframe bits were broken out 
to an extension.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89741]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Catrope posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89741.

Full URL: 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89741#c17893
Commit summary:

1.17: MFT r84739, r89707

Comment:

Grah, I'm sorry about that. The release notes don't come along with a normal 
merge because the file names differ (and the contents likely do as well), and I 
forgot to add them manually.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel Kinzler
I got some more extensions I'd like to see bundeled:

* Poem. Well, actually, I think support for poem or lines or whatever should
be in core.

* SpamBlacklist and AntiBot. Dealing with spam is one of the main problem of a
young wiki.


-- daniel


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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89277]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Catrope changed the status of MediaWiki.r89277.

Old Status: fixme
New Status: resolved

Full URL: 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89277#c0
Commit summary:

Added 'problem articles' view to dashboard; refactored dashboard code 
(populateAFStatistics.php, primarily); Added new schema sql scripts as well as 
sql migration script

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[Wikitech-l] WOM Extension

2011-06-09 Thread Beebe, Mary J
I am looking at the WOM extension, but I am not sure if it is the correct 
extension for us.  We want is an api call that takes a wiki page - either 
parses the wiki markup (or removes wiki markup) then sends back an xml of the 
page content.The regular wiki api gives us pages with wiki markup within it.

We tried something like this:
  api.php?action=womgetpage=Somepagexpath=//*

It did not seem to do what we expected.

Do you mind letting me know if we are looking at the correct extension?

We have a Java application that works with the page content that we get back.

Thanks,

Mary Beebe

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89760]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r89760.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89760#c0
Commit summary:

Fix some typos in r89277

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Mark A. Hershberger
Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de writes:
 We should - starting now - take out time to collect (on a MediaWiki
 page) opinions what extensions could be candidates for a roll-out.

Done.  See [[mw:Possible Tarballs]].

It'd be nice to have a application that would allow people like SemWiki
to put together bundles that others could download.  Let a thousand
tarballs bloom!  (As long as I don't have to support them all. ;)

Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org writes:
 Remember that most extensions don't have version numbers, there's no
 way to tell if they're up to date,

Most extensions we're talking about *do* have SVN revison numbers,
though.

This doesn't solve the problem you mention here, though:

 and there's no way to tell whether they are compatible with the
 version of the core that is in use.

Finally,

 If an extension is bundled and then later merged to the core, there
 won't be any way to automatically migrate the wikis that used the
 bundled copy.

Why not?  True, there isn't one now.  But why can't we create a process
for moving extensions to core so that this automatic migration would
take place?

Mark.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89762]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r89762.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89762#c0
Commit summary:

Followup r89277, r89494: another space breaking stuff

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Re: [Wikitech-l] WOM Extension

2011-06-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Beebe, Mary J bee...@battelle.org wrote:
 I am looking at the WOM extension, but I am not sure if it is the correct 
 extension for us.  We want is an api call that takes a wiki page - either 
 parses the wiki markup (or removes wiki markup) then sends back an xml of the 
 page content.    The regular wiki api gives us pages with wiki markup within 
 it.

Do you know about api.php?action=parsepage=Somepage ? That'll give
you the HTML of the page, among other things.

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89767]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r89767.

Old Status: new
New Status: fixme

User Krinkle also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89767.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89767#c17894
Commit summary:

Attempt at fixing the issue raised in r82948.

Comment:

This should be in mediawiki.special.css instead of shared.css which is loaded 
everywhere all the time.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89728]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Rotemliss posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89728.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89728#c17895
Commit summary:

Localization update for he.

Comment:

I prefer to edit the file. For example, it makes it easier to ensure uniformity 
of terms and wording, etc.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 June 2011 15:25, Mark A. Hershberger mhershber...@wikimedia.org wrote:

 It'd be nice to have a application that would allow people like SemWiki
 to put together bundles that others could download.  Let a thousand
 tarballs bloom!  (As long as I don't have to support them all. ;)


SemanticBundle exists for pretty much this reason. (As someone who's
used it to help set up a SMW, it saves *lots* of faff. Though not all
of it.)

A more closely supported SMW-in-a-ball would be *most* useful when I
need it, and possibly to others ;-)


- d.

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[Wikitech-l] Announcing Ubuntu Ensemble, mediawiki community feedback requested

2011-06-09 Thread Ahmed Kamal
Hi everyone,

This is Ahmed, I work for Ubuntu helping the cloud community. Ubuntu has 
been working on some hot technology, that aims to be apt-get for the 
cloud! Basically Install and manage large scale cloud deployments of 
web applications (and others) with the equivalent ease of apt-get 
install. The reason I'm posting this here, is because the very first 
use-case for this technology (called Ensemble) has been MediaWiki (yaay)!

To get a feel for Ensemble, here is how you'd deploy a 4 machine 
Mediawiki installation
DB - MediaWiki -  memcached - HAproxy Loadbalancer
-8-
# Deploy machines
ensemble deploy mysql wiki-db
ensemble deploy mediawiki demo-wiki
ensemble deploy memcached wiki-cache
ensemble deploy haproxy wiki-balancer
# Connect them together!
ensemble add-relation wiki-db demo-wiki:db
ensemble add-relation wiki-cache demo-wiki
ensemble add-relation wiki-balancer:reverseproxy demo-wiki:website
-8-
Slashdotted? Want to scale out? You'd need something like
ensemble add-unit wiki-cache
ensemble add-unit demo-wiki

Yes, it's that easy! Ensemble takes care of informing MW about the new 
memcached server just spun up, and informing HAproxy about the new 
MW...etc! You can view the formula code that does all the magic at
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ensemble-composers/principia/oneiric/mediawiki/trunk/files/head:/hooks/
 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eensemble-composers/principia/oneiric/mediawiki/trunk/files/head:/hooks/
The reason I am contacting you guys, is that you're the MediaWiki 
experts. I am very interested to get feedback from you on what you think 
of Ensemble today, what you think it should do tomorrow, and most 
importantly to help improve the MW formula

The main project page is: https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/
Ensemble documentation: https://ensemble.ubuntu.com/docs
Development resources (source code, bugs, etc) are available in 
Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ensemble
To connect to the Ensemble community, You can subscribe to the mailing 
list at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ensemble
And there's also an active IRC channel: #ubuntu-ensemble @ Freenode

If you reply here, I'll try answer questions, but it's better to post 
Ensemble feedback directly on Ensemble channels (since that's where the 
devs and formula writers are). In the mean time, if there's any 
questions or thoughts grab me (kim0 on freenode) right away.

I'd love to see more collaboration between the MW community and the 
Ensemble community to make MW a dream to install/run/manage/scale on the 
cloud. I am willing to help in any way possible to make this happen. 
Interested? What next steps do you think we should take?

Cheers

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r83497]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r83497.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83497#c0
Commit summary:

* Colorized the buttons on the form and calls to action
* Changed feedback to ratings on the submit button
* Added body text to calls to action
* Changed the style of calls to action to use a white background for the pitch, 
increasing contrast and thus visibility

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86591]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r86591.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86591#c0
Commit summary:

Added $wgArticleFeedbackOptions, which controls the bucketing for showing or 
hiding expertise and email options in the user interface.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87058]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r87058.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87058#c0
Commit summary:

Extended table rendering function to support adding classes, text and HTML to a 
cell, rather than only being able to set HTML. Making use of data-sort-value 
attribute, rather than hiding a 0 or 1 in the cell.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86588]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r86588.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86588#c0
Commit summary:

Fixed missing 'track' comparison when checking the tracking bucket.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87562]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87562.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87562#c17896
Commit summary:

Added pending message to draw attention to the submit button when ratings are 
not saved yet.

Comment:

Can you brielfy explain this one ? 
pre
// Select randomly 
using equal distribution of available pitches
-   var key = 
pitches[Math.floor( Math.random() * list.length )];
+   var key = 
pitches[Math.floor( Math.random() * pitches.length )];
/pre

Was it broken before ? OK otherwise.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87433]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r87433.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87433#c0
Commit summary:

Colorized rating cells and added a bit more padding around all cells.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread MZMcBride
Mark A. Hershberger wrote:
 Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de writes:
 We should - starting now - take out time to collect (on a MediaWiki
 page) opinions what extensions could be candidates for a roll-out.
 
 Done.  See [[mw:Possible Tarballs]].

Please use full URLs in e-mails. I doubt many e-mail clients support
interwiki prefixes. ;-)  Also, the standard case for wiki pages is sentence
case: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Possible_tarballs.

MZMcBride



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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87732]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r87732.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87732#c0
Commit summary:

ArticleFeedback: Fix r87730, set smaxage to 30 days not 300

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87562]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Catrope posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87562.

Full URL: 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87562#c17897
Commit summary:

Added pending message to draw attention to the submit button when ratings are 
not saved yet.

Comment:

When indexing in codepitches[]/code it's generally a good idea to use 
codepitches.length/code as the upper bound, as opposed to the length of 
some other array :)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87562]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r87562.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87562#c0
Commit summary:

Added pending message to draw attention to the submit button when ratings are 
not saved yet.

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[Wikitech-l] Wikimania hackathon planning

2011-06-09 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Amir Aharoni is planning two developer days just before this year's 
Wikimania -- August 2nd and 3rd in Haifa, Israel.  If you're planning on 
being there, add your name!

http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer_Days#Attendees

This developers' meeting is an opportunity for Wikimedia's software 
developers to come together, test software in diverse languages and on 
diverse devices, squash bugs and write awesome new features.

It's a perfect opportunity to work on right-to-left language support, of 
course, but what else would you like to work on?  Please add your 
ideas.  This'll help recruit attendees, and help us knock out any 
dependencies in the eight weeks between now and the hackfest.

http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer_Days#Topics


-- 
Sumana Harihareswara
Volunteer Development Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 June 2011 17:58, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Possible_tarballs


Note there's a strawpoll there to indicate tarball users' interest in
particular extensions. Go forth and !vote :-)


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Max Semenik
On 08.06.2011, 19:49 Chad wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mark A. Hershberger
 mhershber...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Immediately, the objection of “bloat” would be raised.  To alleviate
 this concern, we can still provide a “MediaWiki-lite” tarball with only
 the contents of phase3 as before.


 Since we're going down the road of offering different tarballs, can
 we also get an ultra-lite that only has MessagesEn?

English-only seems kinda OTT, however a release with world's top 20
languages will satisfy 99% users and will still be significantly
smaller.

-- 
Best regards,
  Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:59 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote:

 * WikiEditor
 Possibly I guess, although I would actually prefer it in core compared
 to a extension, I'm not a fan of how it takes a little longer to load
 and the screen jumps around.


Note that the jumping isn't because it's an extension, but rather because of
the specific way the toolbar and editor bits get injected and activated.

Merging to core or not would have no effect on that -- it can be fixed while
still an extension, or it can remain jumpy in core.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Roan Kattouw
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:59 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote:

 * WikiEditor
 Possibly I guess, although I would actually prefer it in core compared
 to a extension, I'm not a fan of how it takes a little longer to load
 and the screen jumps around.


 Note that the jumping isn't because it's an extension, but rather because of
 the specific way the toolbar and editor bits get injected and activated.

 Merging to core or not would have no effect on that -- it can be fixed while
 still an extension, or it can remain jumpy in core.

That's not entirely accurate. If it's in core, we can add some of the
container divs in the HTML, reducing the jumpiness.

Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87562]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Trevor Parscal posted a comment on MediaWiki.r87562.

Full URL: 
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87562#c17898
Commit summary:

Added pending message to draw attention to the submit button when ratings are 
not saved yet.

Comment:

Yes, especially if that other array is an undefined symbol!

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 June 2011 19:14, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:

 Note that the jumping isn't because it's an extension, but rather because of
 the specific way the toolbar and editor bits get injected and activated.
 Merging to core or not would have no effect on that -- it can be fixed while
 still an extension, or it can remain jumpy in core.


That jumping is one of the biggest pains in the goddamn ass when I'm
trying to edit Wikipedia.

(It appears my 1Mbit connection is not fast enough for Wikipedia, as
my 20MBit work connection doesn't have the same problem, finishing the
jumping far quicker  ...)

Is there anything I can do to alleviate this bloody annoying problem?


- d.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 English-only seems kinda OTT, however a release with world's top 20
 languages will satisfy 99% users and will still be significantly
 smaller.

I also remember hearing lots of opposition about this last time it was
brought up.  If I remember correctly, the main argument was that the
other language files are mostly for end-users, not for sysadmins who
want to just save as much space as they can.

-- 
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Chad
Well if I'm setting up an internal wiki for 10 people, saving space may be
beneficial over supporting 250+ languages no one speaks.

-Chad
On Jun 9, 2011 2:54 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 English-only seems kinda OTT, however a release with world's top 20
 languages will satisfy 99% users and will still be significantly
 smaller.

 I also remember hearing lots of opposition about this last time it was
 brought up. If I remember correctly, the main argument was that the
 other language files are mostly for end-users, not for sysadmins who
 want to just save as much space as they can.

 --
 Casey Brown
 Cbrown1023

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
  Note that the jumping isn't because it's an extension, but rather because
 of
  the specific way the toolbar and editor bits get injected and activated.
 
  Merging to core or not would have no effect on that -- it can be fixed
 while
  still an extension, or it can remain jumpy in core.
 
 That's not entirely accurate. If it's in core, we can add some of the
 container divs in the HTML, reducing the jumpiness.


Simple matter of catching some hooks and outputting divs, and if there
aren't the right hooks already, add em.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well if I'm setting up an internal wiki for 10 people, saving space may be
 beneficial over supporting 250+ languages no one speaks.


At the moment the *entire* languages/ dir in trunk comes to... 43 megabytes.
(Not counting the complete copy of every file in the .svn subdir in a
subversion checkout; people in this situation apparently are working from
tarballs so that's not there.)

With English only 1.2 megabytes, for a saving of ~42 MB.

The simple expedient of gzipping the message files would reduce it to 13
megabytes, for a saving of ~30MB with *no* loss in functionality.

Of course, your users could fill up 30-40 megabytes' worth of text and
images in just a few minutes, so even the savings of removing them all is
pretty piddly...


If there is a compelling reason to reduce the size, switching to a
gzip-friendly format would be simpler: almost as much savings as removing
the files, but without losing anything.

-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote:
 On 9 June 2011 19:14, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote:
 Note that the jumping isn't because it's an extension, but rather because of
 the specific way the toolbar and editor bits get injected and activated.
 Merging to core or not would have no effect on that -- it can be fixed while
 still an extension, or it can remain jumpy in core.
 
 That jumping is one of the biggest pains in the goddamn ass when I'm
 trying to edit Wikipedia.
 
 (It appears my 1Mbit connection is not fast enough for Wikipedia, as
 my 20MBit work connection doesn't have the same problem, finishing the
 jumping far quicker  ...)
 
 Is there anything I can do to alleviate this bloody annoying problem?

As I recall, the old toolbar had this exact same problem. The only
difference was that it was so much smaller in code size that it wasn't
nearly as noticeable, especially on a fast connection. The English Wikipedia
implemented a solution that pre-set the height of the toolbar in CSS, so
when it finally loaded, there would be no jump. More info about this trick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=259876614#Jumping_edit_window.

I'm not sure if the same trick can work for the new toolbar, as the new
toolbar doesn't have a consistent height. The height fluctuates depending on
which sub-modules have been expanded previously. This could probably be
fixed by loading the toolbar earlier, though?

MZMcBride



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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:11 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:

 I'm not sure if the same trick can work for the new toolbar, as the new
 toolbar doesn't have a consistent height. The height fluctuates depending
 on
 which sub-modules have been expanded previously. This could probably be
 fixed by loading the toolbar earlier, though?


I'm sure folks can figure it out -- but hopefully in another thread. :)

-- brion
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel Friesen
On 11-06-09 12:09 PM, Brion Vibber wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well if I'm setting up an internal wiki for 10 people, saving space may be
 beneficial over supporting 250+ languages no one speaks.

 At the moment the *entire* languages/ dir in trunk comes to... 43 megabytes.
 (Not counting the complete copy of every file in the .svn subdir in a
 subversion checkout; people in this situation apparently are working from
 tarballs so that's not there.)

 With English only 1.2 megabytes, for a saving of ~42 MB.

 The simple expedient of gzipping the message files would reduce it to 13
 megabytes, for a saving of ~30MB with *no* loss in functionality.

 Of course, your users could fill up 30-40 megabytes' worth of text and
 images in just a few minutes, so even the savings of removing them all is
 pretty piddly...


 If there is a compelling reason to reduce the size, switching to a
 gzip-friendly format would be simpler: almost as much savings as removing
 the files, but without losing anything.

 -- brion
;) switching the format, whether we gzip or not would be a nice idea.

I believe I mentioned the advantage of using a format that would not be
a php injection security vulnerability if we permitted to be updated on
the fly. ie: Being able to instantly propagate batches of new
translations from TranslateWiki to live sites. Perhaps allowing
peer-reviewing of messages as a method of deciding how instantly to
apply a message to live. Course as long as we make sure we don't have
html injection vulns in our messages and we restrict changes of .js/.css
messages.

-- 
~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]


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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89393]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User OverlordQ posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89393.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89393#c17900
Commit summary:

Apply a patch adapted from the one on Bug #16794

This patch should allow you to use the $wgSharedDB [with Postgres]
normally, as you would with mysql. Basically this patch creates a
second connection with the shared database and when a query is
made, we check on which connection we should send it.

Patch from Luca Fulchir

Comment:

Likely caused by that mess in tableName

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89767]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r89767.

Old Status: fixme
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89767#c0
Commit summary:

Attempt at fixing the issue raised in r82948.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r83300]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r83300.

Old Status: ok
New Status: fixme

User Krinkle also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r83300.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83300#c17901
Commit summary:

Follow-up r83280; looks like I accidentally deprecated a piece of legacy JS :D

Comment:

htmlforms and selectOrOtherSelectChanged weren't referenced anywhere else in 
code/trunk/code.
JS part is OK.


pre

+* @deprecated @since 1.18 load modules with ResourceLoader instead
 */
-   static function addJS() {
-   if ( self::$jsAdded ) return;
+   static function addJS() { }
/pre
The end result is now 
[http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLForm.php?view=markuppathrev=83300#l159
 this].

The method is now broken, not deprecated. Deprecated means it should no longer 
be used and will be removed in the future, right now it will silently fail 
without anyone easily being able to trace why. Marking FIXME.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Announcing Ubuntu Ensemble, mediawiki community feedback requested

2011-06-09 Thread Platonides
Ahmed Kamal wrote:
 Hi everyone,

Thanks for contacting with us, Ahmed.

 This is Ahmed, I work for Ubuntu helping the cloud community. Ubuntu has
 been working on some hot technology, that aims to be apt-get for the
 cloud! Basically Install and manage large scale cloud deployments of
 web applications (and others) with the equivalent ease of apt-get
 install. The reason I'm posting this here, is because the very first
 use-case for this technology (called Ensemble) has been MediaWiki (yaay)!

 To get a feel for Ensemble, here is how you'd deploy a 4 machine
 Mediawiki installation
 DB -  MediaWiki -   memcached -  HAproxy Loadbalancer
 -8-
 # Deploy machines
 ensemble deploy mysql wiki-db
 ensemble deploy mediawiki demo-wiki
 ensemble deploy memcached wiki-cache
 ensemble deploy haproxy wiki-balancer
 # Connect them together!
 ensemble add-relation wiki-db demo-wiki:db
 ensemble add-relation wiki-cache demo-wiki
 ensemble add-relation wiki-balancer:reverseproxy demo-wiki:website
 -8-
 Slashdotted? Want to scale out? You'd need something like
 ensemble add-unit wiki-cache
 ensemble add-unit demo-wiki

 Yes, it's that easy!

Well, you still need to know that you need 4 machines and what is each 
of them.
I first got confused thinking that they were packages on a single machine.
So, when you add a second demo-wiki, how is the second mediawiki 
configured? A simple copy ? How are further changes synced?

What about optional packages? If you are installing for a large scale 
cloud deployment of mediawiki you probably also want php-apc, or 
wikidiff2 extension.

I see you are creating your own LocalSettings.php, but the way you are 
installing it is really ugly. I advance you that it will break in the 
new installer of MediaWiki 1.17 You will have an install.php cli script 
there, though.
(i have to admit, it is really the fault of ubuntu package that it 
doesn't create the database or thatit leaves the tables broken on  update)

I recommend you to plan and test with 1.17 and tell us if you need some 
additional feature. It still could enter in the release, if it's simple 
enough.
http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/REL1_17/phase3/

Cheers


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Platonides
We could provide a minified mediawiki version.



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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87172]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r87172.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87172#c0
Commit summary:

Followup to r86108 per CR: Fix two calls to legacy tablesorter

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r86108]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r86108.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/86108#c0
Commit summary:

Followup ro r86088: Use data-sort-type instead of classes to specify the 
parser-type; add support for data-sort-value; strip legacy code (CR)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89795]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r89795.

Old Status: new
New Status: deferred

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89795#c0
Commit summary:

Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net 
(2011-06-09 20:44:00 UTC)

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89742]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r89742.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89742#c0
Commit summary:

W/S fixups

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r78004]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r78004.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/78004#c0
Commit summary:

Follow up r78003, forgot to make MonoBook use the footericons code.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r87101]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r87101.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/87101#c0
Commit summary:

Moved the tab break from the link to the span. This allows for multiple icons, 
as icons overwrite this link image and thus wouldn't have a tab break. This was 
originally solved for the watchlist star by using a right margin, so this one 
is removed to prevent double borders.

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[Wikitech-l] The second MediaWiki book has been published, see MediaWiki virtual library (MVL)

2011-06-09 Thread Thomas Gries
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_virtual_library_%28MVL%29





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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89252]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Tim Starling changed the status of MediaWiki.r89252.

Old Status: fixme
New Status: resolved

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89252#c0
Commit summary:

* MFT r89250. only the tableExists function ad 1.17 already supports 
user-dbname difference

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r82088]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle posted a comment on MediaWiki.r82088.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/82088#c17903
Commit summary:

Further fixes for NewUserMessage: newusermessage contains the template name, so 
we don't need to substitute that page ourselves and have it substituted by the 
parser. Also fixed an {} that was being interpreted by PHP.

Comment:

According to the documentation it should use Welcome-heading and Welcome-body 
in LQT mode and just Welcome in other environments. However it's still using 
Template:Welcome-body on Commons (which does not have LQT)


Also, there's two line breaks before and after the templates causing a gap on 
top of all pages. And a timestamp, which may or may not be good.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r83300]: New comment added, and revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle changed the status of MediaWiki.r83300.

Old Status: fixme
New Status: ok

User Krinkle also posted a comment on MediaWiki.r83300.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/83300#c17904
Commit summary:

Follow-up r83280; looks like I accidentally deprecated a piece of legacy JS :D

Comment:

Ah, I see. Thanks for the quick response. Marking OK.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r45497]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Krinkle posted a comment on MediaWiki.r45497.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45497#c17905
Commit summary:

* Made it possible to set $wgLogo to false and have no logo. Made this the 
default, installer-configurable.
* Introduced $wgDeletedDirectory to replace obsolete $wgFileStore and 
installer-configurable
* Turned the environment page into a welcome page. Still needs some work to 
make it more welcoming.
* Refactored the getLabelled*() from InstallerDBType.php into WebInstaller 
where it can be useful for the WebInstaller pages
* Implemented pages Name and Options. Finished the MySQL settings form.
* Implemented documentation pages which render files like README as wikitext.
* Removed MediaWiki copyright/license from navigation regions and put them on 
the welcome page.
* Split the bulk CSS and JS off to separate files

Comment:

That was indeed the case.

Chad fixed it in r89311.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 On 09/06/11 03:25, Łukasz Garczewski wrote:
 ConfirmEdit (rationale: every single public wiki I've setup dies without 
 this)
 Maybe AbuseFilter would be a better anti-spam choice.

Probably not. It comes by default with no rule sets set up — and would
require the system administrator to define complex rule sets by
themselves.


-- 
Andrew Garrett
Wikimedia Foundation
agarr...@wikimedia.org

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89768]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Patrick Nagel posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89768.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89768#c17906
Commit summary:

* Move special page alias defintion to its own file
* Sort i18n file: 'en', 'qqq' and the translations
* Slights message tweaks for consistency
* Normalize 'descriptionmsg' key
* 'de' translations are always informell (Du). formal address goes into 
'de-formal' and will be done by our Translatewiki folks
* Add extension to Translatewiki

Comment:

Thanks a lot for this, raymond!

One question though - the Notificator.alias.php file does not exist currently - 
is that a problem?

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89808]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User ^demon posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89808.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89808#c17907
Commit summary:

Initial check in, in an extension for now during 
development/evaluation/cross-browser testing.

Comment:

Is HTMLStyleForm supposed to be a fork of HTMLForm, a rewrite, a copy...or 
what? Seems like it's duplicating a lot of functionality there.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89710]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User ^demon changed the status of MediaWiki.r89710.

Old Status: fixme
New Status: new

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89710#c0
Commit summary:

add back json support

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89781]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User ^demon changed the status of MediaWiki.r89781.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89781#c0
Commit summary:

Rename Mobile Extension

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89785]: Revision status changed

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User ^demon changed the status of MediaWiki.r89785.

Old Status: new
New Status: ok

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89785#c0
Commit summary:

Rename Mobile Extension

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89808]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User Werdna posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89808.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89808#c17908
Commit summary:

Initial check in, in an extension for now during 
development/evaluation/cross-browser testing.

Comment:

It looks like it's a copy-and-modify.

I think you should subclass it if the factoring allows for it, or potentially 
even replace the existing one.

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89808]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User ^demon posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89808.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89808#c17909
Commit summary:

Initial check in, in an extension for now during 
development/evaluation/cross-browser testing.

Comment:

I was going to say, might as well push improvements/changes back into core, 
rather than here in an extension :)

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[Wikitech-l] LanguageConverter and searching with the incorrect keyboard layout

2011-06-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
There's a problem which is familiar to people who use non-Latin
alphabets in computers is that they sometimes forget to switch the
keyboard layout and type a whole word or even a sentence of gibberish
until they notice it. For example, people who use a Cyrillic keyboard
may search Google for цшлшзувшф, when they actually meant to search
for wikipedia, and vice versa - dbrbgtlbz when they meant
википедия (that's wikipedia in Russian). The Google search engine
is aware of it for a few years now and often automatically searches
for the desired term in a DWIM manner.

Wikipedia's own search engine is not aware of it yet. A user in the
Hebrew Wikipedia had this idea: Maybe LanguageConverter can be used
for it? Common keyboard layouts can be mapped to each other, like the
two Serbian alphabet are mapped to each other today, and
Special:Search is already aware of LanguageConverter.

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 I want to live in peace. - T. Moore

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[MediaWiki-CodeReview] [MediaWiki r89814]: New comment added

2011-06-09 Thread MediaWiki Mail
User MaxSem posted a comment on MediaWiki.r89814.

Full URL: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/89814#c17910
Commit summary:

(bug 29332) don't let install progress if user requests mediawiki-announce 
subscription but does not enter email. Thanks Sumana :)

Comment:

JS?

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