[wp-testers] Dashboard issues
Just upgraded my blog from 2.6.1 to 2.7-RC1-10041. First it works like a charm but after some logins/logouts the dashbord messed up. Now I´ve now screen options, tags box and slug box don´t appear and the small menu arrows don´t work. For me it seems there is a javascript problem. I´ve also tried to deactivate all my plugins (+ clearing cahe), but this did not help. ´Dashboard is broken in FF, IE, Opera and Chrome (all latest version). Anyone else with such problems or maybe a solution? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Chris Moody wrote: Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
You can use plugin central plugin.I hope it helps. On 12/6/08, Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Chris Moody wrote: Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers -- Sent from my mobile device ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
From: Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. Why not just delete the obsolete plugins for which you don't want to see nag messages? MichaelH ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Another plugin question
Sometimes it takes one more page reload to properly update the plugins with updates count. On Dec 6, 2008, at 1:08 AM, Chris Moody wrote: I've also noticed sometimes, the alert of plugin updates available will show 1 more than what is actually available... I just did 3 auto updates, and before hand it showed 4, when I did 2 of them, it still read 2. When I did the last one, the flag was cleared... ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Does auto update deactivate plugins?
I know this was asked before but I've forgotten. In the past I've always deactivated all my plugins manually before updating the core. Now I find myself using 2.7's auto-update feature the same way--the second thing I do before updating is to bulk deactivate all my plugins (first is to backup DB). So... Does running 2.7's new core auto update automatically deactivate plugins before updating and reactivate them after it's finished or does that still have to be done manually? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
Help me out here, because plugins not currently active already tell you if they need updates. Patrick On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Michael E. Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: From: Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. Why not just delete the obsolete plugins for which you don't want to see nag messages? MichaelH ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] IE 7.0 2.7 Admin-bit of a mess
I just logged into my Admin (yesterday's stay updated build) using IE 7.0 just out of curiosity and noticed a couple of things right off the bat. (Firefox 3.0.4 is my main browser.) 1. The menus were expanded to the right when I logged in--ok so far. I expanded the Media menu downward and then the Settings menu. At that point, the combination of half the settings menu and most of the Media menu suddenly overlapped the rest of the menus rendering the entire menu column useless. I had to reload the page to get things straightened out. The menus operated normally after that. 2. No green background for activated plugins. Background remains white. I would say that's going to be confusing for more than a few users. I checked with a friend of mine who is also running 2.7 almost to see if they saw the same thing and they also verified that the 2.7 Admin was having a lot of problems when she logged in with IE 7.0. Some are constant like the lack of green background for plugins and others more random as in the menu problem. I then logged into the same Admin using IE 8.0 beta 2 in the default Standards mode and the 2.7 Admin UI worked fine. Shifting to Compatibility mode however, (IE 7.0 emulation) gave the same results as seen when using the original IE 7.0 browser. It's too bad you can't just haul out your firearm and shoot a browser. That would end Internet Explorer and all it's non-standard BS once and for all. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
Chris Moody wrote: Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Jeff Chandler wrote: Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Michael E. Hancock wrote: -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. Patrick D. wrote: Help me out here, because plugins not currently active already tell you if they need updates. Patrick, Sorry, snipped too much from that last message. Chris and Jeff don't want to be nagged for updates on inactive plugins, I thought otherwise. Regards. MichaelH ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
Oh, that makes sense. Never mind. I'm out of this then. Thanks. Patrick On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Michael E. Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Chris Moody wrote: Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Jeff Chandler wrote: Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Michael E. Hancock wrote: -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. Patrick D. wrote: Help me out here, because plugins not currently active already tell you if they need updates. Patrick, Sorry, snipped too much from that last message. Chris and Jeff don't want to be nagged for updates on inactive plugins, I thought otherwise. Regards. MichaelH ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Image location URL in 2.7 Library?
In the Media Library in 2.7, where would I find a location URL for any given image? If I add a new image to the Media Library via Media/Add new (unattached image) and want to use the exact location URL of that image in another application, the URL doesn't seem to be listed anywhere either in that image's section of the Library or in the Edit page for the image. Is Editing or Viewing the image first and then right-clicking the image itself the only way to copy the location URL for that image? I doesn't seem very obvious. The main reason I point this out is that I seem remember that the location URL used to be listed in previous versions. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Image location URL in 2.7 Library?
Great minds think alike, yes? ;D On 12/6/2008 10:55 AM, Musing Minds wrote: Kirk, I have found the same thing when looking for an image location. I have to click view, but that just gives a post with the image, I have to right-click the image or click on it to find the location. I, too, believe that the location should be accessible from the library page. kimsch Musing Minds http://musing-minds.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirk M wrote: In the Media Library in 2.7, where would I find a location URL for any given image? If I add a new image to the Media Library via Media/Add new (unattached image) and want to use the exact location URL of that image in another application, the URL doesn't seem to be listed anywhere either in that image's section of the Library or in the Edit page for the image. Is Editing or Viewing the image first and then right-clicking the image itself the only way to copy the location URL for that image? I doesn't seem very obvious. The main reason I point this out is that I seem remember that the location URL used to be listed in previous versions. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
Actually if you have plugins laying around that you're not using you may want to delete them if you don't want to update them. As far as I know even deactivated plugins can be exploited. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
I think this solution would satisfy both Michael and those who don't want to be bothered: In the admin menus and dashboard, you are only nagged that you have out-of-date plugins if an active plugin needs to be updated. If the only plugins that need updating are inactive, you don't get the red flag in-your-face warning. If you happen to visit the Plugins page, you can see all (active and inactive) plugin status, so that if you are about to activate a plugin you can tell that it is out of date before you click the activate link. --Jennifer From: Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Michael E. Hancock wrote: -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. -- Jennifer Hodgdon * Poplar ProductivityWare www.poplarware.com Drupal/WordPress Sites, Themes, Modules/Plugins Custom Web Programming, Web Databases PHP, Perl, MySQL, JavaScript, XML, AJAX ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
Is there a reason you keep the inactive plugins your host includes with one-click or Fantastico? They are usually the first things I delete when I get them. For me, it is the Hello Dolly plugin I get every time I upgrade. I don't dislike it, I just don't use it, so I get rid of it so I don't clutter things up. Just MY two cents. ;) -- DJ Allyn www.djallyn.org www.liberaltopia.org The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
I think this would be exactly what I would like Jennifer Hodgdon wrote: I think this solution would satisfy both Michael and those who don't want to be bothered: In the admin menus and dashboard, you are only nagged that you have out-of-date plugins if an active plugin needs to be updated. If the only plugins that need updating are inactive, you don't get the red flag in-your-face warning. If you happen to visit the Plugins page, you can see all (active and inactive) plugin status, so that if you are about to activate a plugin you can tell that it is out of date before you click the activate link. --Jennifer From: Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Michael E. Hancock wrote: -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
Why be shown at all that an inactive plug in needs to be updated? I can see that you may want to know it has an update if your looking at the plugin screen itself, but if your writing a new post, do you really care right then that an inactive plugin has an update? Chris Chris Thomson wrote: What if it notified you differently based on whether the plugin is activated or deactivated? What if the little red dot in the sidebar was grey for inactive plugins needing updates (ignore roughness): http://img.skitch.com/20081206-b8age367un74ay52ryjyprr76h.jpg Just my 2c. —— Chris Thomson http://twitter.com/chris24 On 6-Dec-08, at 11:34 AM, DJ Allyn wrote: Is there a reason you keep the inactive plugins your host includes with one-click or Fantastico? They are usually the first things I delete when I get them. For me, it is the Hello Dolly plugin I get every time I upgrade. I don't dislike it, I just don't use it, so I get rid of it so I don't clutter things up. Just MY two cents. ;) -- DJ Allyn www.djallyn.org www.liberaltopia.org The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
Inactive plugins should be notified. If you have an inactive plugin that has had an exploit since you last used it and you activiate it again, you'd be at risk immediately until you went and updated. Just easier to keep it updated (even if inactive) or just delete it entirely. Patrick --- My name is Patrick D. and I approved this email. Read my blog at http://www.patricksays.net! On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Chris Moody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why be shown at all that an inactive plug in needs to be updated? I can see that you may want to know it has an update if your looking at the plugin screen itself, but if your writing a new post, do you really care right then that an inactive plugin has an update? Chris Chris Thomson wrote: What if it notified you differently based on whether the plugin is activated or deactivated? What if the little red dot in the sidebar was grey for inactive plugins needing updates (ignore roughness): http://img.skitch.com/20081206-b8age367un74ay52ryjyprr76h.jpg Just my 2c. —— Chris Thomson http://twitter.com/chris24 On 6-Dec-08, at 11:34 AM, DJ Allyn wrote: Is there a reason you keep the inactive plugins your host includes with one-click or Fantastico? They are usually the first things I delete when I get them. For me, it is the Hello Dolly plugin I get every time I upgrade. I don't dislike it, I just don't use it, so I get rid of it so I don't clutter things up. Just MY two cents. ;) -- DJ Allyn www.djallyn.org www.liberaltopia.org The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
As mentioned before, even inactive plugins can be a security risk. So, it stands to reason that the best way to keep your site safe when running plugins is by either a) removing plugins you no longer intend to use to remove the possible security risk or b) updating all plugins when they have updates available in order to receive security updates for all code that is on your site. - Chris Jean Chris Moody wrote: Why be shown at all that an inactive plug in needs to be updated? I can see that you may want to know it has an update if your looking at the plugin screen itself, but if your writing a new post, do you really care right then that an inactive plugin has an update? Chris Chris Thomson wrote: What if it notified you differently based on whether the plugin is activated or deactivated? What if the little red dot in the sidebar was grey for inactive plugins needing updates (ignore roughness): http://img.skitch.com/20081206-b8age367un74ay52ryjyprr76h.jpg Just my 2c. —— Chris Thomson http://twitter.com/chris24 On 6-Dec-08, at 11:34 AM, DJ Allyn wrote: Is there a reason you keep the inactive plugins your host includes with one-click or Fantastico? They are usually the first things I delete when I get them. For me, it is the Hello Dolly plugin I get every time I upgrade. I don't dislike it, I just don't use it, so I get rid of it so I don't clutter things up. Just MY two cents. ;) -- DJ Allyn www.djallyn.org www.liberaltopia.org The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
If you have plugins installed, either activated or deactivated (or Inactive), all installed plugins need to be kept updated irregardless. All the reasons have been given already and are very true indeed. Here's my own example...I keep my standard active plugins slimmed down to less than 10. these plugins are activated all the time however, I also keep WP Security Scan, Clean Options and Maintenance Mode on standby in the Inactive section of the plugins page. I don't need these three plugins activated all the time and I leave them in the Inactive section so they aren't affected when I deactivate/reactivate my standard plugins for an upgrade or whatever. But just because I keep those other 3 plugins Inactive does not mean I don't want to keep them updated--I most certainly do. So when it comes time to use them I'm assured it's the most up to date versions without having to activate them first just to find out. Simple rules: If you have plugins you leave Inactive until you need them then those plugins need to be updated on a regular basis, just like active plugins. If you have Inactive plugins that you simply don't use, get rid of them. If you have Inactive plugins that you keep around just-in-case but haven't used for a couple-three months, chances are you won't use them at all so it's safe to delete them for now. You can always get them back later. The slimmer your install, the better. :D On 12/6/2008 12:22 PM, Gaarai wrote: As mentioned before, even inactive plugins can be a security risk. So, it stands to reason that the best way to keep your site safe when running plugins is by either a) removing plugins you no longer intend to use to remove the possible security risk or b) updating all plugins when they have updates available in order to receive security updates for all code that is on your site. - Chris Jean Chris Moody wrote: Why be shown at all that an inactive plug in needs to be updated? I can see that you may want to know it has an update if your looking at the plugin screen itself, but if your writing a new post, do you really care right then that an inactive plugin has an update? Chris Chris Thomson wrote: What if it notified you differently based on whether the plugin is activated or deactivated? What if the little red dot in the sidebar was grey for inactive plugins needing updates (ignore roughness): http://img.skitch.com/20081206-b8age367un74ay52ryjyprr76h.jpg Just my 2c. —— Chris Thomson http://twitter.com/chris24 On 6-Dec-08, at 11:34 AM, DJ Allyn wrote: Is there a reason you keep the inactive plugins your host includes with one-click or Fantastico? They are usually the first things I delete when I get them. For me, it is the Hello Dolly plugin I get every time I upgrade. I don't dislike it, I just don't use it, so I get rid of it so I don't clutter things up. Just MY two cents. ;) -- DJ Allyn www.djallyn.org www.liberaltopia.org The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
That sounds good to me. Jennifer Hodgdon wrote: I think this solution would satisfy both Michael and those who don't want to be bothered: In the admin menus and dashboard, you are only nagged that you have out-of-date plugins if an active plugin needs to be updated. If the only plugins that need updating are inactive, you don't get the red flag in-your-face warning. If you happen to visit the Plugins page, you can see all (active and inactive) plugin status, so that if you are about to activate a plugin you can tell that it is out of date before you click the activate link. --Jennifer From: Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, this is an idea I can get behind. I too have seen a plugin update notifier on my administration page only to browse to the plugins area and find out the update is for a disabled plugin. Michael E. Hancock wrote: -1 on this idea. Consider that the plugin is sorely out-of-date, so you have activate it to find out it is obsolete. I'd like to know that it needs updating before I activate it. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
Ok so, I guess it would be best to just delete the darn things and that would solve the problem of being nagged and having to deal with the issue. Kirk M wrote: If you have plugins installed, either activated or deactivated (or Inactive), all installed plugins need to be kept updated irregardless. All the reasons have been given already and are very true indeed. Here's my own example...I keep my standard active plugins slimmed down to less than 10. these plugins are activated all the time however, I also keep WP Security Scan, Clean Options and Maintenance Mode on standby in the Inactive section of the plugins page. I don't need these three plugins activated all the time and I leave them in the Inactive section so they aren't affected when I deactivate/reactivate my standard plugins for an upgrade or whatever. But just because I keep those other 3 plugins Inactive does not mean I don't want to keep them updated--I most certainly do. So when it comes time to use them I'm assured it's the most up to date versions without having to activate them first just to find out. Simple rules: If you have plugins you leave Inactive until you need them then those plugins need to be updated on a regular basis, just like active plugins. If you have Inactive plugins that you simply don't use, get rid of them. If you have Inactive plugins that you keep around just-in-case but haven't used for a couple-three months, chances are you won't use them at all so it's safe to delete them for now. You can always get them back later. The slimmer your install, the better. :D On 12/6/2008 12:22 PM, Gaarai wrote: As mentioned before, even inactive plugins can be a security risk. So, it stands to reason that the best way to keep your site safe when running plugins is by either a) removing plugins you no longer intend to use to remove the possible security risk or b) updating all plugins when they have updates available in order to receive security updates for all code that is on your site. - Chris Jean Chris Moody wrote: Why be shown at all that an inactive plug in needs to be updated? I can see that you may want to know it has an update if your looking at the plugin screen itself, but if your writing a new post, do you really care right then that an inactive plugin has an update? Chris Chris Thomson wrote: What if it notified you differently based on whether the plugin is activated or deactivated? What if the little red dot in the sidebar was grey for inactive plugins needing updates (ignore roughness): http://img.skitch.com/20081206-b8age367un74ay52ryjyprr76h.jpg Just my 2c. —— Chris Thomson http://twitter.com/chris24 On 6-Dec-08, at 11:34 AM, DJ Allyn wrote: Is there a reason you keep the inactive plugins your host includes with one-click or Fantastico? They are usually the first things I delete when I get them. For me, it is the Hello Dolly plugin I get every time I upgrade. I don't dislike it, I just don't use it, so I get rid of it so I don't clutter things up. Just MY two cents. ;) -- DJ Allyn www.djallyn.org www.liberaltopia.org The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music Is it at all possible, for the Plugin notifier to not alert us when inactive plugins have updates? With one of my installs, it came with several plugins automatically installed from my hosting company, which I don't use. Its a pain having to check to make sure none of the ones I actually use are needing to be updated... Just my 2 cents, Chris ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
Wow, this is getting to be quite an issue. Jeff, didn't this exact same issue came up when plugin update notification was first introduced (2.5 maybe?-not sure anymore)? I seem to remember the same type of go-around. Anyway, I guess the whole thing boils down to whether or not the developers consider this an issue or not. Obviously it is to many users. For myself, I like having the notifications for any installed plugin I have as each one represents a (possible) liability that a hacker could possibly exploit no matter how remote the chance. On the other hand, if I find that I haven't used a certain inactive plugin for quite some time then I'll delete it. But that's me and I'm certainly not everyone. I would more than support adding a new option (check box?) into the Inactive section of the Plugins page that would allow a user to shut off update notifications for any plugin stored in the Inactive sections. It would be a bulk action. All plugins in the Inactive section would be affected either way. Perhaps someone could work up a plugin (sorry, I'm not gifted in that direction I'm afraid) that would add this type of option and then submit a ticket to have it added to the core for either a 2.7.* update or for 2.8? Sound reasonable? On 12/6/2008 2:12 PM, Jeff Chandler wrote: Ok so, I guess it would be best to just delete the darn things and that would solve the problem of being nagged and having to deal with the issue. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
+1 -- Good Idea. To fine tune it a bit (or maybe just clarifying, if this is what you meant), make it so the bubble only shows the count of active plugins that need updating. Inactive plugins still get the under row notification. On Dec 6, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Jennifer Hodgdon wrote: I think this solution would satisfy both Michael and those who don't want to be bothered: In the admin menus and dashboard, you are only nagged that you have out-of-date plugins if an active plugin needs to be updated. If the only plugins that need updating are inactive, you don't get the red flag in-your-face warning. If you happen to visit the Plugins page, you can see all (active and inactive) plugin status, so that if you are about to activate a plugin you can tell that it is out of date before you click the activate link. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
OK, here's the deal: With the latest trunk builds (10088 I think, although it still has 10071 in the version label): I cannot activate plugins. When I try, the message says they're activated, but nothing changes. Anyone else have this? Now maybe it's an incompatible plugin, but the online listing of those things is pitifully small and I don't see any obvious culprits. Peace, Gene ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
That sounds good to me! Stephen Rider wrote: +1 -- Good Idea. To fine tune it a bit (or maybe just clarifying, if this is what you meant), make it so the bubble only shows the count of active plugins that need updating. Inactive plugins still get the under row notification. On Dec 6, 2008, at 10:17 AM, Jennifer Hodgdon wrote: I think this solution would satisfy both Michael and those who don't want to be bothered: In the admin menus and dashboard, you are only nagged that you have out-of-date plugins if an active plugin needs to be updated. If the only plugins that need updating are inactive, you don't get the red flag in-your-face warning. If you happen to visit the Plugins page, you can see all (active and inactive) plugin status, so that if you are about to activate a plugin you can tell that it is out of date before you click the activate link. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
I don't want to delete the maybe plugins because I'll forget them between now and when I think I'll need them. What I do sometimes is go through the deactivated plugins and .zip them up. That way: 1) they can't be exploited, 2) no update notifications, 3) no clutter on the plugins screen, though they are there when I go in via FTP. Stephen On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Kirk M wrote: Simple rules: If you have plugins you leave Inactive until you need them then those plugins need to be updated on a regular basis, just like active plugins. If you have Inactive plugins that you simply don't use, get rid of them. If you have Inactive plugins that you keep around just-in-case but haven't used for a couple-three months, chances are you won't use them at all so it's safe to delete them for now. You can always get them back later. The slimmer your install, the better. :D ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
If a plugin is inactive, how can someone exploit it? Stephen Rider wrote: I don't want to delete the maybe plugins because I'll forget them between now and when I think I'll need them. What I do sometimes is go through the deactivated plugins and .zip them up. That way: 1) they can't be exploited, 2) no update notifications, 3) no clutter on the plugins screen, though they are there when I go in via FTP. Stephen On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Kirk M wrote: Simple rules: If you have plugins you leave Inactive until you need them then those plugins need to be updated on a regular basis, just like active plugins. If you have Inactive plugins that you simply don't use, get rid of them. If you have Inactive plugins that you keep around just-in-case but haven't used for a couple-three months, chances are you won't use them at all so it's safe to delete them for now. You can always get them back later. The slimmer your install, the better. :D ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Re: Is this possible....
Simple, by calling the php files directly and passing data to them. -- Chris Jean http://gaarai.com/ http://wp-roadmap.com/ Chris Moody wrote: If a plugin is inactive, how can someone exploit it? Stephen Rider wrote: I don't want to delete the maybe plugins because I'll forget them between now and when I think I'll need them. What I do sometimes is go through the deactivated plugins and .zip them up. That way: 1) they can't be exploited, 2) no update notifications, 3) no clutter on the plugins screen, though they are there when I go in via FTP. Stephen On Dec 6, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Kirk M wrote: Simple rules: If you have plugins you leave Inactive until you need them then those plugins need to be updated on a regular basis, just like active plugins. If you have Inactive plugins that you simply don't use, get rid of them. If you have Inactive plugins that you keep around just-in-case but haven't used for a couple-three months, chances are you won't use them at all so it's safe to delete them for now. You can always get them back later. The slimmer your install, the better. :D ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
[wp-testers] File Permission Problems
hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a odd problem. When uploading a image to one of my WP installations it complains that the folder /uploads/2008/12 is not writeable. I have checked with my fileserver it is writeable. I have even checked using the is_writable(); command in a blank PHP file. I am running 2.7RC1-10073 along with two other blogs on the same server execpt they both work great with no problems. Anyone have any ideas why this one is having such problems? Thanks. Paul. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Is this possible....
Thinking less of it myself (and I wrote it!). Probably best to zip 'em up and store them that way. (Kind of like packing your heavy sweaters away for the summer) Not a true PHP guru, but there seems to be a pretty good consensus that even a deactivated plugin can be a security risk. (It *is* a runnable file sitting on your server, after all). Stephen On Dec 6, 2008, at 2:51 PM, Chris Moody wrote: That sounds good to me! Stephen Rider wrote: +1 -- Good Idea. To fine tune it a bit (or maybe just clarifying, if this is what you meant), make it so the bubble only shows the count of active plugins that need updating. Inactive plugins still get the under row notification. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] File Permission Problems
I had a friend with this problem and the fix was ridiculously simple. Make sure under Settings -- Miscellaneous you have 'wp-content/uploads' exactly in the Store Uploads In This Folder setting. No extra slashes or anything. Hers had an extra slash on the end and wouldn't upload anything. Try that. Patrick --- My name is Patrick D. and I approved this email. Read my blog at http://www.patricksays.net! On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a odd problem. When uploading a image to one of my WP installations it complains that the folder /uploads/2008/12 is not writeable. I have checked with my fileserver it is writeable. I have even checked using the is_writable(); command in a blank PHP file. I am running 2.7RC1-10073 along with two other blogs on the same server execpt they both work great with no problems. Anyone have any ideas why this one is having such problems? Thanks. Paul. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] File Permission Problems
Thank you s much Patrick that fixed the problem. I looked at those settings, but for some reason my brain though it was right the way it was. For some bizarre reason it had the full *nix path to the upload folder. You know like /mnt/home/user/ etc. No idea why. Thanks again. You've saved me hours of banging my head against a wall. :) Paul. 2008/12/6 Patrick D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a friend with this problem and the fix was ridiculously simple. Make sure under Settings -- Miscellaneous you have 'wp-content/uploads' exactly in the Store Uploads In This Folder setting. No extra slashes or anything. Hers had an extra slash on the end and wouldn't upload anything. Try that. Patrick --- My name is Patrick D. and I approved this email. Read my blog at http://www.patricksays.net! On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a odd problem. When uploading a image to one of my WP installations it complains that the folder /uploads/2008/12 is not writeable. I have checked with my fileserver it is writeable. I have even checked using the is_writable(); command in a blank PHP file. I am running 2.7RC1-10073 along with two other blogs on the same server execpt they both work great with no problems. Anyone have any ideas why this one is having such problems? Thanks. Paul. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] File Permission Problems
Paul, could you add a trac ticket for this? Do you know if it's specific to that folder or does it happen with any directory if you put the slash on the end? Seems a small patch to strip slashes off that URL in processing would be in order. On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Paul Robinson wrote: Thank you s much Patrick that fixed the problem. 2008/12/6 Patrick D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a friend with this problem and the fix was ridiculously simple. Make sure under Settings -- Miscellaneous you have 'wp-content/uploads' exactly in the Store Uploads In This Folder setting. No extra slashes or anything. Hers had an extra slash on the end and wouldn't upload anything. Try that. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if someone could help me with a odd problem. When uploading a image to one of my WP installations it complains that the folder /uploads/2008/12 is not writeable. I have checked with my fileserver it is writeable. I have even checked using the is_writable(); command in a blank PHP file. I am running 2.7RC1-10073 along with two other blogs on the same server execpt they both work great with no problems. Anyone have any ideas why this one is having such problems? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] File Permission Problems
The problem I had was because the uploads directory path had the full *nix path in it rather that the wp-content/uploads path. So I don't know if it happens with the slash at the end. I agree though a little bit of script to remove the trailing slash should be rather easy. I can't test since I use it on a production website, but if you can test it then I would support a ticket being opened. :) Thanks. Paul. 2008/12/6 Stephen Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, could you add a trac ticket for this? Do you know if it's specific to that folder or does it happen with any directory if you put the slash on the end? Seems a small patch to strip slashes off that URL in processing would be in order. On Dec 6, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Paul Robinson wrote: Thank you s much Patrick that fixed the problem. 2008/12/6 Patrick D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I had a friend with this problem and the fix was ridiculously simple. Make sure under Settings -- Miscellaneous you have 'wp-content/uploads' exactly in the Store Uploads In This Folder setting. No extra slashes or anything. Hers had an extra slash on the end and wouldn't upload anything. Try that. On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Paul Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if someone could help me with a odd problem. When uploading a image to one of my WP installations it complains that the folder /uploads/2008/12 is not writeable. I have checked with my fileserver it is writeable. I have even checked using the is_writable(); command in a blank PHP file. I am running 2.7RC1-10073 along with two other blogs on the same server execpt they both work great with no problems. Anyone have any ideas why this one is having such problems? ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Upgrade Issue
Here's another problem, folks. Seems whenever I do an automatic upgrade to the latest nightly, I find that page generation speed shows to about one third of its usual rate, from .3 to .5 second to 1 to 1.5 seconds. Doing a manual install of the latest trunk, whatever it is, returns performance to the normal level. Now I realize a 1 second difference in page generation may not be important to you, but I pay a lot of money for a dedicated server for maximum performance under all circumstances. Anyone else know of the possibilities or why? Peace, Gene ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
Re: [wp-testers] Does auto update deactivate plugins?
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Kirk M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this was asked before but I've forgotten. In the past I've always deactivated all my plugins manually before updating the core. Now I find myself using 2.7's auto-update feature the same way--the second thing I do before updating is to bulk deactivate all my plugins (first is to backup DB). So... Does running 2.7's new core auto update automatically deactivate plugins before updating and reactivate them after it's finished or does that still have to be done manually? During the upgrade, your blog is put in maintenance mode and loading is halted at the beginning of wp-settings.php. Nothing really runs, including plugins. The only thing allowed to run is the DB upgrade, which takes care of making sure plugins are not loaded. You don't need to deactivate plugins unless you like turning them back on one-by-one after upgrading to isolate any breakage they might cause. ___ wp-testers mailing list wp-testers@lists.automattic.com http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
