Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-08 Thread Kirk M
Unless I'm grossly mistaken, the .#  versions are built on an as 
needed basis due to new security issues popping up (zero day hacks and 
the like) and/or a major issue or issues are found with the 2.7 series. 
Once a milestone release goes gold it shifts from trunk to branch and 
minor security/bug fix updates are made from that particular branch. 
There's no continuous development once 2.7-final is released and goes to 
branch that I know of.


On 12/8/2008 4:38 AM, Xavier Borderie wrote:

Okay, but what about when 2.7 is installed and before 2.7.1 becomes
available, what will normal (not testers) users see?
 


Well then you wouldn't be on trunk anymore, so I'm guessing there is
no development version for 2.7.x once 2.7 goes gold.
Unless, if course, a 2.7-dev code exists :)


   

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[wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Michael E. Hancock
I'm guessing that developers have this covered, but, are we sure that the 
core update works with the state of things set as if 2.7 is already released 
and installed?  Meaning, the core update really won't do anything until a 
2.7.1 is released, right?


After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will 
happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that 
button be visible?


Right now the upgrade 'does an upgrade' even if the installation is already 
at the latest version...


Just anticipating a Forum deluge.

Thanks,

MichaelH 


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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Xavier Borderie
 After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will
 happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
 button be visible?

Like wise, an interrogation of mine : if we upgrade blogs to 2.7-rc1
now, they will update to the latest trunk, which is normal and
expected.
But what will happen once 2.7 is released? Will these users' installs
of 2.7 still be fetching files from trunk, or does it stop there and
only uses /tags from there on?

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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Kirk M
Ah, something I want to know as well. Since a few of my clients had 
requested to be updated to 2.7 RC1+ it would be nice to know if I'll be 
doing the update to 2.7-final automatically or manually (auto-updating 
to the final should be fine as I can't imagine there's any major changes 
from the current trunk to the final version).


On 12/7/2008 1:40 PM, Xavier Borderie wrote:

After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will
happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
button be visible?
 


Like wise, an interrogation of mine : if we upgrade blogs to 2.7-rc1
now, they will update to the latest trunk, which is normal and
expected.
But what will happen once 2.7 is released? Will these users' installs
of 2.7 still be fetching files from trunk, or does it stop there and
only uses /tags from there on?

   

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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Stefano Aglietti
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:40:47 +0100, Xavier Borderie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will
 happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
 button be visible?

Like wise, an interrogation of mine : if we upgrade blogs to 2.7-rc1
now, they will update to the latest trunk, which is normal and
expected.
But what will happen once 2.7 is released? Will these users' installs
of 2.7 still be fetching files from trunk, or does it stop there and
only uses /tags from there on?

I suppose it works like warning about new version works now, if you
use a nightly build on the admin footer it show a message inviting you
to kepp updated, if you use a release version it show a message on the
top of the admin screens when and only when a new version is
available. As actual version know if there is an update or not i
suppose the automatic update use same method (plus the selection of
the correct locale if available) for allow update or not.

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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Jeff Chandler
Interesting question and I too would like to know the answer. I don't 
think it would be very practical if normal end users had the ability to 
upgrade WordPress continuously even if their wasn't an official update 
available.


Michael E. Hancock wrote:
I'm guessing that developers have this covered, but, are we sure that 
the core update works with the state of things set as if 2.7 is 
already released and installed?  Meaning, the core update really won't 
do anything until a 2.7.1 is released, right?


After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what 
will happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or 
will that button be visible?


Right now the upgrade 'does an upgrade' even if the installation is 
already at the latest version...


Just anticipating a Forum deluge.

Thanks,

MichaelH
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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Paleo Pat
I was more worried that Matt and the guys would implement a Authorized Beta
only system, where if you didn't have some sort of a code you wouldn't be
able to Beta test Wordpress... Thereby getting rid of ppl like me. :(



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On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting question and I too would like to know the answer. I don't think
 it would be very practical if normal end users had the ability to upgrade
 WordPress continuously even if their wasn't an official update available.


 Michael E. Hancock wrote:

 I'm guessing that developers have this covered, but, are we sure that the
 core update works with the state of things set as if 2.7 is already released
 and installed?  Meaning, the core update really won't do anything until a
 2.7.1 is released, right?

 After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what
 will happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
 button be visible?

 Right now the upgrade 'does an upgrade' even if the installation is
 already at the latest version...

 Just anticipating a Forum deluge.

 Thanks,

 MichaelH
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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread mrmist
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeff Chandler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Interesting question and I too would like to know the answer. I don't 
think it would be very practical if normal end users had the ability to 
upgrade WordPress continuously even if their wasn't an official update 
available.




Only admins have the ability to launch the update.



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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Jacob Santos

To be honest, I was thinking of getting rid of you.

Kidding aside, I don't believe there are any wrong inquiries when it 
comes to testing. It is better to have someone stand up and be heard 
about a problem than have that problem go unnoticed and be broken for 
multiple versions. That is in my humble opinion. The more testers the 
better.


That answer is a tricky one. If you update right when 2.7 comes out, if 
you are using RC1, then you should be fine. When WordPress goes back to 
being bleeding-edge then you will back on the nightlies. So I mean, 
the only ones affected will be the ones that update too late and update 
to bleeding-edge. However, you won't receive a notice to upgrade until 
2.8 comes out. It will just be up to you on whether you want to or not.


You know that is interesting. In the past, if you have one version say 
2.5.1, it will tell you that 2.6.0 came out. Then if you want to upgrade 
to 2.5.2, it would still say 2.6. I wonder if they are going to fix that 
on the server side.



Jacob Santos

Paleo Pat wrote:

I was more worried that Matt and the guys would implement a Authorized Beta
only system, where if you didn't have some sort of a code you wouldn't be
able to Beta test Wordpress... Thereby getting rid of ppl like me. :(



-Paleo Pat
http://www.politicalbyline.com




On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Jeff Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Interesting question and I too would like to know the answer. I don't think
it would be very practical if normal end users had the ability to upgrade
WordPress continuously even if their wasn't an official update available.


Michael E. Hancock wrote:



I'm guessing that developers have this covered, but, are we sure that the
core update works with the state of things set as if 2.7 is already released
and installed?  Meaning, the core update really won't do anything until a
2.7.1 is released, right?

After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what
will happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
button be visible?

Right now the upgrade 'does an upgrade' even if the installation is
already at the latest version...

Just anticipating a Forum deluge.

Thanks,

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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Ryan Boren
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Xavier Borderie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will
 happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
 button be visible?

 Like wise, an interrogation of mine : if we upgrade blogs to 2.7-rc1
 now, they will update to the latest trunk, which is normal and
 expected.
 But what will happen once 2.7 is released? Will these users' installs
 of 2.7 still be fetching files from trunk, or does it stop there and
 only uses /tags from there on?

If you are running 2.7-xxx, you will get a notice to upgrade to 2.7
once it is available.  From there you will be out of the development
release track and onto the regular release track.  To get back on the
development release track you can change the version in
wp-includes/version.php to '2.8-alpha'.
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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Kirk M

Thanks Ryan. Just the information that was needed.

On 12/7/2008 3:27 PM, Ryan Boren wrote:

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Xavier Borderie[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   

After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will
happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
button be visible?
   

Like wise, an interrogation of mine : if we upgrade blogs to 2.7-rc1
now, they will update to the latest trunk, which is normal and
expected.
But what will happen once 2.7 is released? Will these users' installs
of 2.7 still be fetching files from trunk, or does it stop there and
only uses /tags from there on?
 


If you are running 2.7-xxx, you will get a notice to upgrade to 2.7
once it is available.  From there you will be out of the development
release track and onto the regular release track.  To get back on the
development release track you can change the version in
wp-includes/version.php to '2.8-alpha'.
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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Xavier Borderie
 If you are running 2.7-xxx, you will get a notice to upgrade to 2.7
 once it is available.  From there you will be out of the development
 release track and onto the regular release track.  To get back on the
 development release track you can change the version in
 wp-includes/version.php to '2.8-alpha'.

Excellent thing, thanks for your answer Ryan.


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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Peter Westwood

Ryan Boren wrote:

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Xavier Borderie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

After 2.7 is installed, and before 2.7.1 (yes 2.7.1) is released, what will
happen if a user clicks the Upgrade Automatically button?  Or will that
button be visible?
  

Like wise, an interrogation of mine : if we upgrade blogs to 2.7-rc1
now, they will update to the latest trunk, which is normal and
expected.
But what will happen once 2.7 is released? Will these users' installs
of 2.7 still be fetching files from trunk, or does it stop there and
only uses /tags from there on?



If you are running 2.7-xxx, you will get a notice to upgrade to 2.7
once it is available.  From there you will be out of the development
release track and onto the regular release track.  To get back on the
development release track you can change the version in
wp-includes/version.php to '2.8-alpha'.
  
For the more adventurous of you that want to stay always on the nightly 
builds I intend on sorting out a plugin based solution although this may 
not be available before 2.7 goes gold.


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Re: [wp-testers] Verifying core update works for the real 2.7 to 2.7.1

2008-12-07 Thread Michael E. Hancock


From: Ryan Boren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip If you are running 2.7-xxx, you will get a notice to upgrade to 2.7 
once it is available.  From there you will be out of the development release 
track and onto the regular release track.  To get back on the development 
release track you can change the version in wp-includes/version.php to 
'2.8-alpha'.

/snip

Okay, but what about when 2.7 is installed and before 2.7.1 becomes 
available, what will normal (not testers) users see?


Right now it always says There is a new version of WordPress available for 
upgrade so will normal admin users see that message even though they have 
2.7 installed?


MichaelH



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