Re: [WSG] My site is broken in Opera
Alan Trick wrote: Hi, I finished a nice update for my website, added a browser detection script on my css because IE doensn't like web standards. Now my site works in all the browsers I have exept for Opera, and I don't know why, can anyone help me with this? the url is http://jellybean.uni.cc n.b. it uses style.css in firefox/mozilla, and styleie.css all other browsers All the pages on the site are valid xhtml+xml and both css files are valid. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Hi Alan, the problem is simple, you no use the tag "class" else "id" 2004 LopezMarcos Design 2004-2005 LopezMarcos Design Soluciones web | New Media | Diseo grfico | Ilustracin | Modelado3D Mvil: +34 667 60 19 96 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Web: www.lopezmarcos.com | MADRID Spain - Aviso legal - Este correo electrnico y, en su caso, cualquier fichero anexo al mismo, contiene informacin de carcter confidencial exclusivamente dirigida a su destinatario o destinatarios. Queda prohibida su divulgacin, copia o distribucin a terceros sin la previa autorizacin escrita de LopezMarcos Design. En el caso de haber recibido este correo electrnico por error, se ruega notificar inmediatamente esta circunstancia mediante reenvo a la direccin electrnica del remitente, y le rogamos borre de su sistema inmediatamente el mensaje as como todas sus copias. Cualquier opinin expresada en este mensaje proviene del remitente, excepto cuando el mensaje establezca lo contrario y el remitente est autorizado para establecer que dichas opiniones provienen de LopezMarcos Design. - Disclaimer - The information in this e-mail and in any attachments is confidential and solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is prohibited without the prior written consent of LopezMarcos Design.. If you have received this communication in error, please, notify the sender by reply e-mail, and please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of LopezMarcos Design.
RE: [WSG] Using small in a p
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/graphics.html#h-15.2 While this is HTML4 spec, the same would apply to XHTML1.0. The important things to note is: The following HTML elements specify font information. Although they are not all deprecated, their use is discouraged in favor of style sheets (followed by a list that includes the small element). Further, I don't see it in XHTML Basic (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-basic/) specs: Text Module* abbr, acronym, address, blockquote, br, cite, code, dfn, div, em, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6, kbd, p, pre, q, samp, span, strong, var Seems logical to me that big, small, b, I and u are to be deprecated, since they have a distinct presentation flavour. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Web Developer Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] My site is broken in Opera
José López wrote: Hi Alan, the problem is simple, you no use the tag class else id 1) I don't think this would do anything different and 2) id's are meant to be unique and I don't want to have a whole bunch of id's all with the same css info, that's bad code and redundant. I think I'll go with some of the recomendations others made and make things simpler. By the way, I use the MathML on my quiz and I'll probably use it more often when I start putting content in, the reason that I have MathML validated on my homepage is to keep all the doctypes the same Bert Doorn wrote: Incidentally, when I went to the site in MSIE, it asked me what program I wanted to open the page with, rather than displaying it. Probably related to your Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml Really? What version of MSIE do you have? I've loaded it many times in mine (6) and I've never gotten that. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New Standards Compliant Website
Chris Stratford wrote: http://inspiro.neester.com/ Click on ABOUT. In IE the content panel seems to overlap the whole nav panel too... I checked out http://inspiro.neester.com/about-us.html in IE6 and it looked OK at first glance, but I found a major flaw when I tried to resize the font: you specified your font size in px's so IE can't resize them. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
Gday, Am I correct in understanding that an ordered list is the best way of marking up a breadcrumb system that shows where a user has been ? And that an unordered list is appropriate for a breadcrumb (for the lack of a more appropriate term) system that shows a users' position in relation to site structure ? What are peoples opinions on this ? Are there better/more correct ways of doing this ? Which breadcrumb system is preferable in terms of accessability ? Regards Paul Farrell ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] My site is broken in Opera
G'day Incidentally, when I went to the site in MSIE, it asked me what program I wanted to open the page with, rather than displaying it. Probably related to your Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml Really? What version of MSIE do you have? I've loaded it many times in mine (6) and I've never gotten that. MSIE 6.0.2800.1106IC - fully patched but otherwise stock-standard (no plug-ins, not even a Flash player). I don't get this problem on other sites, so it's possibly something to do with the MathML or application/xhtml+xml (if you're feeding that to MSIE). I get a download dialog box in MSIE. Perhaps you have a plug-in of some sort installed for the MathML (which the vast majority of people would not have) so it displays fine for you. Extract from http://www.w3.org/Math/implementations.html : Viewing web pages containing MathML requires a browser that can display MathML. Currently, only Netscape, Mozilla and Amaya can display MathML directly. If you use Microsoft's Internet Explorer, the best solution for MathML display is Design Science MathPlayer. Also, if I go to the Quiz #1 page, in Firefox (1.0), I am told to install additional fonts. In Opera (7.54), on that same page, I see a lot of code/Markup and get a message that XML Parsing Failed. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Web Developer Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 4 column css template
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
template that is fixed and centred as in snip/ - i.e. one that will resize
properly to 800x600 resolution.
Which is it, fixed or fluid (resizes)?
Does anyone know where I can find a decent 4 column css template to use?
You might find something at http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=FrontPage
If the columns' source order is the same as their presentational order
(or reversed), then floating them could work. Even if they are in the
wrong order, by combining floating and relative positioning the desired
effect can be achieved. The biggest problem with such a layout is IE's
resizing of boxes to fit contents. IIRC, setting {overflow : visible;}
might solve that. (I know visible is the default, but don't forget we're
talking about IE here.)
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RE: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
From: Paul Farrell Am I correct in understanding that an ordered list is the best way of marking up a breadcrumb system that shows where a user has been ? For my own part, I'd say yes (as the steps are in order, and the order is important)...but other people may have other ideas of what is best And that an unordered list is appropriate for a breadcrumb (for the lack of a more appropriate term) system that shows a users' position in relation to site structure ? Structure is still hierarchical, and order is important here as well as effectively you're representing a certain path, from the site's root, to the current resource...and each step here needs to be taken in that particular order as well. Unordered lists imply that their meaning won't change if their items are rearranged. Consider home products kitchen pots pans Would the meaning still be the same if we jumbled it up as kitchen products pots pans home ? In light of that, I'd say ordered in both cases. But, again, others may have a different view on the matter. Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Safari Users / Layout Issue / Not Clearing
Any Safari users out there? I seem to be having a layout issue with my page opener at: http://www.funkdub.info/index.php the page and the CSS validate, but its having a background redraw problem - was having the same problem in mozilla but that has been rectified... Reply off list if its something that wont be benefit to the rest of the list. Thx. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] designing for the cell phone and PDA
Are there any successes or failures out there? I have no idea if my attempts works in the real world, since I do not even have one of those small devices. Have only been able to test in Opera SSR on PC. I have compared PC SSR to real device. It is very close. The only thing is that mobiles use smaller fonts, so 1em is fine and don't go below 0.9em. Remember that handhelds may not have any pointing device, so don't rely on :hover and onmouseover/onclick. I've adjusted css for handhelds on: http://pornel.ldreams.net http://osiolki.net http://browsehappy.pl I also tested OpenWave. It is very simple browser, lynx-alike. One problem that I've found is that it has limit to 4kb of text in a textarea. -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Safari Users / Layout Issue / Not Clearing
Version: 1.0.3 (v85.8) to be precise. Apparently. Is this the latest version? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam Hutchinson Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Safari Users / Layout Issue / Not Clearing Any Safari users out there? I seem to be having a layout issue with my page opener at: http://www.funkdub.info/index.php the page and the CSS validate, but its having a background redraw problem - was having the same problem in mozilla but that has been rectified... Reply off list if its something that wont be benefit to the rest of the list. Thx. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari Users / Layout Issue / Not Clearing
On 3 Dec 2004, at 10:47 PM, Sam Hutchinson wrote: Version: 1.0.3 (v85.8) to be precise. Apparently. Is this the latest version? No, AFAIK the latest is 1.2.4 (v125.11) - at least that's what I have, running on OS X 10.3.6. Version 1.0.x came with 10.1/10.2, and now that I've upgraded to 10.3 I can't run the older version - bummer for testing... I know that 1.0.x was a bit more buggy than the newer version, but can't help you any more than that - you'll have to get someone who still has 10.2 or earlier, with the 1.0 Safari... FWIW, your page appears identical in 1.2.4 to how it renders in Firefox. N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sam Hutchinson Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Safari Users / Layout Issue / Not Clearing Any Safari users out there? I seem to be having a layout issue with my page opener at: http://www.funkdub.info/index.php the page and the CSS validate, but its having a background redraw problem - was having the same problem in mozilla but that has been rectified... Reply off list if its something that wont be benefit to the rest of the list. Thx. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Safari Users / Layout Issue / Not Clearing
On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:21 pm, Nick Gleitzman wrote: No, AFAIK the latest is 1.2.4 (v125.11) - at least that's what I have, running on OS X 10.3.6. Version 1.0.x came with 10.1/10.2, and now that I've upgraded to 10.3 I can't run the older version - bummer for testing... I know that 1.0.x was a bit more buggy than the newer version, but can't help you any more than that - you'll have to get someone who still has 10.2 or earlier, with the 1.0 Safari... Does Safari (1.03) run on OS X 10.1 ? I don't think so. Anyway, TIP: - If you want to test your sites with Safari 1.03, but are running 10.3.x, download Omniweb 5.0. It uses the same WebCore rendering engine as the older Safari, and it runs on OS X Panther. On the other side, OmniWeb 5.1, now in beta, incorporate the latest WebCore rendering engine (Safari 1.2), and it seems to run fine on OS X 10.2. Shareware, 30USD. Money well spent (OmniWeb is a very nice browser, compared to Safari - imho). Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] site review please (esigma)
Hi there, this is my first post to the list after lurking for a bit now. i've put on my extra thick skin today in preparation for asking for your feedback on a site. i created the templates and css based off their design and the dev team took it from there. we have already received some feedback regarding increasing the main font size and that will be corrected soon. url: http://www.esigma.com Any feedback, suggestions etc are greatly appreciated! cheers ~~ maggie galbraith ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Info on correct semantics
Hello all. I follow the discussions here for quite a while already, and have a lot of respect for the knowledge that is on this list. A great place to learn. Hope you can help me here (and I'm on topic for the list). Some days ago I had a short discussion with a colleague about a display bug in (surprise) IE. The solution he found was to replace all tags (except html, head, body I guess) with span and style the layout with CSS. He really means it, and he was proud that he has found a solution to all(!) display problems in IE. Unfortunately I had not the correct arguments why this is not the right way to do it. On this list, there are many discussions about how to build the page semantically correct. Is there any info useful information for starters about this subject available? Any help is welcome. Greetings, Michael Vogt ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] site review please (esigma)
Maggie,
Looks good here, on Safari 1.2.4. (I'm talking about one of the inside
pages, servicehosting.jsp in particular.) As you say, some people will
probably find difficulty with the type size.
As far as the code is concerned, you might want to improve it by making
more use of inheritance.
For example, in the right hand column #sidebar-b, you have a number of
elements: #esigmaresources (which contains a ul.portlet, the first li
of which has the class .title), a .ruready div class which contains
only an img, another div class .portletContainer with a ul.portlet, and
so on.
You could simplify this as follows.
For #esigmaresources, instead of an extra class for portlet, change
your css to read:
#esigmaresources ul {
etc
}
Use an h for the first li item, and style that. ( #esigmaresources ul
li h2 { } )
Get rid of the ruready class and div, and use #sidebar img instead.
Get rid of the portletcontainer class and div and use #sidebar-b ul
instead.
You get my drift?
Use the cascading property of stylesheets as much as you can.
All the best. -Hugh Todd
this is my first post to the list after lurking for a bit now. i've
put on my extra thick skin today in preparation for asking for your
feedback on a site.
i created the templates and css based off their design and the dev
team took it from there. we have already received some feedback
regarding increasing the main font size and that will be corrected
soon.
url: http://www.esigma.com
Any feedback, suggestions etc are greatly appreciated!
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Re: [WSG] Info on correct semantics
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 19:10:31 +0100, Michael Vogt wrote: The solution he found was to replace all tags (except html, head, body I guess) with span and style the layout with CSS. He really means it, and he was proud that he has found a solution to all(!) display problems in IE. That seems a bit self-defeating - consider: a large part of the point of developing with web standards is to build a more semantic page; the tags apply meaning to the content. So in avoiding all the semantics and just making every tag a span, you're missing out on a large portion of the benefits. I'd almost suggest that if thats the best you can do, you may as well go back to table based design - you're gaining no benefit from more advanced work :( Oh, and I don't believe it would work - I don't believe the problems in ie are tag based... small possibility that it is due to span being an inline element... is the layout full of br tags, or is CSS applied to make the elements block? HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Search Engine Optimisation, Usability, Information Architecture, Web Design Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] site review please (esigma)
On 4 Dec 2004, at 5:08 AM, maggie galbraith wrote: url: http://www.esigma.com Any feedback, suggestions etc are greatly appreciated! In addition to Hugh's relevant comments, I notice that you're making using of nbsp; and br / extensively as layout/presentation tools. Using CSS to set margins/padding where required is really a better way to go... You also use nbsp; as a separator for the links in your text nav at the foot of each page; not good for accessibilty. Why not recode this menu as a list? It is one, after all... I like the design; I'm a sucker for a clean look and some whitespace on a page. But you could make your center column liquid - that way your layout will still work in smaller browser sizes (800px). Fixed width and centered creates an annoying horizontal scroll at anything less than 1024px wide... HTH N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Info on correct semantics
Unfortunately I had not the correct arguments why this is not the right way to do it. On this list, there are many discussions about how to build the page semantically correct. Is there any info useful information for starters about this subject available? I don¹t know about resources, but many people on the list would be able to answer this. This is a classic case of designing a layout for one set of browsers - those that support css - at the expense of a wide range of other devices - and therefore alienating specific user groups. This is the antithesis of what web standards, and in fact the web, is all about. The power of the web is in its universality. Access by everyone regardless of disability is an essential aspect. Tim Berners-Lee, Founder of the World Wide Web, Director of W3C The question I'd be asking this person is: 1. have you looked at this sort of layout in a modern browser with css switched off - the content will suddenly have no meaning - it will all blend into one lump - with no block elements to divide it up and give meaning. 2. have you looked at this sort of layout in a text browser, where semantic meaning is essential. Headings and content are all displayed at equal weight, but indented according to headings and paragraph etc. for users of text-browsers, the layout will be meaningless. 3. have you listened to the layout on a screen reader. Screen reader users often use headings to navigate the page. What happens when they come to a page and there are no headings at all? 4. even if they do not care about these smaller user groups, the biggest question would be: Do you care about Google? How is Google going to index this content? The standard line of Google is the biggest blind user is particularly relevant here. Russ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Info on correct semantics
At 10:10 AM 12/3/04, Michael Vogt wrote: Some days ago I had a short discussion with a colleague about a display bug in (surprise) IE. The solution he found was to replace all tags (except html, head, body I guess) with span and style the layout with CSS. He really means it, and he was proud that he has found a solution to all(!) display problems in IE. Michael, If I had to replace all the meaningful tags with a single meaningless tag, I'd choose div before span just because it's by default a block element and most of my page layout structures are blocks. Theoretically this might not matter because one can change block to inline and inline to block in CSS, but scary creaks from the attic of my memory tell me that such transformations don't occur the same cross-browser. (Does anything?) Besides, in the absence of CSS an all-span page would turn into a solid unbroken block of words whereas an all-div page in most user agents would at least be a series of separated text blocks. Yes, reducing down to a single tag for all structures would probably reduce your screen-painting headaches but it wouldn't eliminate them, because, for example, different browsers use different rules in rendering the box model. Of all the problems that people bring to CSS-D, I think the vast majority pertain to blocks. If you forsake all tags but one you'd gain only about an inch of ground. And lose a mile. If a web page were merely a palette of light perhaps it wouldn't matter what structure underlay the various shapes we see (and hear). But a web page is a structure of meaning. Rendering a page in a particular graphic layout is only one layer of the cake. The more meaning that can be derived from a page, the more function can result from its interaction with user agents, spiders, and other page-reading entities. Perhaps if your colleague could listen to a tag-less page with a screen reader he would be appalled by his own suggestion. Good luck, Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] PHP script
I am a newbie at this. Why will the following scrippt work on one web site
just fine and not return This page was last modified: the file
modification date?
div class=footer
p
?php if (file_exists($filepath)){
print This page was last modified:
. date(l, F jS, Y., filemtime($filepath)); }?/p
p align=centercopy; Copyright 2000 - ?php print date(Y); ?by
Advocates for Sight Impaired Consumersbr
All Rights Reserved/p
/div
CSS: http://www.asic.bc.cx/ASIC-css1.css
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Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
Paul Farrell wrote: Gday, Am I correct in understanding that an ordered list is the best way of marking up a breadcrumb system that shows where a user has been ? And that an unordered list is appropriate for a breadcrumb (for the lack of a more appropriate term) system that shows a users' position in relation to site structure ? What are peoples opinions on this ? Are there better/more correct ways of doing this ? Which breadcrumb system is preferable in terms of accessability ? Regards Paul Farrell Hello, In my opinion a simple string of a/a would work just fine. The information that you are trying to display is not really a list. So a string of anchor links in a paragraph or span would work the best. I know that not everyone would agree with me here but this is just my opinion. Richard Spence ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] PHP script
The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store wrote:
I am a newbie at this. Why will the following scrippt work on one web site
just fine and not return This page was last modified: the file
modification date?
div class=footer
p
?php if (file_exists($filepath)){
print This page was last modified:
. date(l, F jS, Y., filemtime($filepath)); }?/p
nothing to do with web standards...your PHP script just isn't executed
(check the source code of the page once it has been served to the
browser). suggest checking any PHP error log you have on your
site/server, and asking on a PHP specific list / forum...
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Re: [WSG] PHP script
Hi Angus,
This is not a valid site. I know you mean well, but if you think this is
good code, you are on the wrong track...
Regards,
Warren
On 4/12/04 12:16 am, The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a newbie at this. Why will the following scrippt work on one web site
just fine and not return This page was last modified: the file
modification date?
div class=footer
p
?php if (file_exists($filepath)){
print This page was last modified:
. date(l, F jS, Y., filemtime($filepath)); }?/p
p align=centercopy; Copyright 2000 - ?php print date(Y); ?by
Advocates for Sight Impaired Consumersbr
All Rights Reserved/p
/div
CSS: http://www.asic.bc.cx/ASIC-css1.css
Angus MacKinnon
MacKinnon Crest Saying
Latin - Audentes Fortuna Juvat
English - Fortune Assists The Daring
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RE: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs
Yeah, I think I am leaning that way. In my case I will be using a breadcrumb as 'Where You Are' rather than 'How You Got Here'. I maybe thinking along the wrong lines... But unstyled markup would appear more intuitive (to me) as a string of links separated, for example, by a '' symbol. I guess it may not be as correct as a hierarchical (spelling?) list, but I think it is an acceptable way of doing it. Thankyou all for your opinions. Hello, In my opinion a simple string of a/a would work just fine. The information that you are trying to display is not really a list. So a string of anchor links in a paragraph or span would work the best. I know that not everyone would agree with me here but this is just my opinion. Richard Spence ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] PHP script
Pretty off topic.
WP
On 4/12/04 12:25 am, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Man With His Guide Dog At The Tent Store wrote:
I am a newbie at this. Why will the following scrippt work on one web site
just fine and not return This page was last modified: the file
modification date?
div class=footer
p
?php if (file_exists($filepath)){
print This page was last modified:
. date(l, F jS, Y., filemtime($filepath)); }?/p
nothing to do with web standards...your PHP script just isn't executed
(check the source code of the page once it has been served to the
browser). suggest checking any PHP error log you have on your
site/server, and asking on a PHP specific list / forum...
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Re: [WSG] Info on correct semantics
Hello Lea, Russ and Paul. Thanks for your info on this. Hope I get him rethink his ideas :-) @Lea sorry, I omited a pice of information. He changes all the spans to block elements. Cheers, Michael Vogt PS: Sorry if you received my question twice as I did. I sent it only once ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] PHP script [ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED
Yeah thanks Warren, but we'll look after the traffic control please. Your post just adds to the noise. Please reply to Angus off list about his PHP issues. PHP is not a web standard and is not for discussion here. The guidelines do point this out. P Pretty off topic. WP ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] PHP script [ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED
NP On 4/12/04 1:13 am, Peter Firminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah thanks Warren, but we'll look after the traffic control please. Your post just adds to the noise. Please reply to Angus off list about his PHP issues. PHP is not a web standard and is not for discussion here. The guidelines do point this out. P Pretty off topic. WP ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New Standards Compliant Website
Hey Mordechai, Yeah I know I did that - I wanted to set the base size for the font... When you set something to 1em, what is that based on? I always set a fixed global font, and then base everything off that. I think that was the intention of the em system... but IE has kind of ruined it... Anyway - anyone have any ideas? Or should I just chuck this on www.experts-exchange.com? Cheers! Mordechai Peller wrote: Chris Stratford wrote: http://inspiro.neester.com/ Click on ABOUT. In IE the content panel seems to overlap the whole nav panel too... I checked out http://inspiro.neester.com/about-us.html in IE6 and it looked OK at first glance, but I found a major flaw when I tried to resize the font: you specified your font size in px's so IE can't resize them. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
