Re: [WSG] no scrollbars in ff
michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote: Kevin, I think that was meant to be a hint that we might be able to debug your code if we could see some of it - very few of us enjoy the extra challenge of 'working blind'. Mike Ok, it's just that I'm still working on the site still and don't want to post code that may have a few validation errors in it. Still I can't figure out why the scroll bars are missing. I thought it must have been something common but maybe I asked prematurely. I've tried everything. Heres the site if anyone want's to check it out. http://www.gortahorkyouth.com/ As I say im workin on it right now. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] no scrollbars in ff
doh... thanks.
Bunter, Terry (SEN) wrote:
Hi Kevin
The problem is in the styles.css
You have
html {
height: 100%;
overflow: hidden;
}
If you change overflow to visible the scroll bar appears.
Terry
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michael.brocking...@bt.com wrote:
Kevin,
I think that was meant to be a hint that we might be able to debug
your
code if we could see some of it - very few of us enjoy the extra
challenge of 'working blind'.
Mike
Ok, it's just that I'm still working on the site still and don't want to
post code that may have a few validation errors in it.
Still I can't figure out why the scroll bars are missing. I thought it
must have been something common but maybe I asked prematurely.
I've tried everything.
Heres the site if anyone want's to check it out.
http://www.gortahorkyouth.com/
As I say im workin on it right now.
-best
kevin
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[WSG] no scrollbars in ff
Whats the problem with firefox and vertical scroll bars. I have a centered layout here most of the pages would require scrolling but no bars show up in ff. I've tried all the solutions on this page: http://hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/forcing-scrollbars-now-even-better but no use. Any suggestions? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] no scrollbars in ff
thanks david. David Dorward wrote: kevin mcmonagle wrote: Any suggestions? I suggest not asking people to debug code based on third party examples that work instead of the code that actually causes the problems. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] floats that go out of the box
What is it that makes floats not wrap to the width of their containing div in the new version of ie? Its happened to me on a couple site's image thumbnail galleries. best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] icons for navigation - was positioning help needed
ebiz wrote Your problem is the sidebar, you need to make the position of it relative, then the footer will pop underneath it. To keep the sidebar liquid just float it to the right and use em's for the height, width etc. Thats a good solution. Thanks for the feedback everyone, especially the great linky links. Im taking a close look at css blueprint grid and the css gala examples. BTW whats the wsg consensus about using icons in nav menus? I recently read an article that basically said if you take the text away most icons in nav menus become useless. Also they are quite time consuming to create I think they can be good for portal sites but thats about it. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] positioning help needed
Hi I'm trying to modify this template to work with a footer.
The problem is getting a footer to float below the right side div.
I can't figure out how to keep #sidebar liquid but still float a footer
under it.
Is it possible.
Here is the css on that div:
#sidebar {
position: absolute;
left: 51em;
padding: 115px 0.4em 2em 2.5em;
color: #606263; top:0;
}
#sidebar * {
max-width: 40em;
}
#sidebar .column {
float: left;width: 15em;
margin-right: 18px;
}
heres the example:
http://www.gortahork.eu/en
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Re: [WSG] positioning help needed
David Dorward wrote: ... is not floating. Unless you can predict the height of absolutely positioned content (you usually can't) or want to rearrange the document with JavaScript after initial rendering (nasty), then placing content below absolutely positioned content should generally be forgotten about. Cheers David, thats what I needed to know. That link you sent is dead on thanks a million... -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] hover state on icons(indivdual li backgrounds)
Hi Ebiz,
Thanks for the selector tip. Heres how what im using now, works in ff
and safari. will test it in ie shortly.
=
#home a{border:0px solid black;
background-image:url(../images/icons/area.gif); background-repeat:
no-repeat;
background-position:-94px 1px;
}
#home a:hover{border:0px solid black;
background-image:url(../images/icons/area.gif); background-repeat:
no-repeat;
background-position:-4px 1px;
}
ul li.home{
background-image:url(../images/icons/home.gif);
background-repeat:no-repeat;background-position:-4px 1px; }
==
li id=home class=home a href=# class=homeHome/a/li
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[WSG] li hover bg preloader
Hhi, Whats the cleanest way to create a css prelaoder for li hover states. Heres the site in question. http://cosanglas.com/ -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] li hover bg preloader
ah yes i had forgotten about that, thanks. Henrik Madsen wrote: I have done this previously: Have 1 background image and change its position (via css) on rollover (that way the whole thing is loaded initially). http://www.igenerator.com.au Henrik Madsen *Generator* +61 8 9387 1250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.igenerator.com.au http://www.igenerator.com.au On 07/11/2008, at 10:27 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hhi, Whats the cleanest way to create a css prelaoder for li hover states. Heres the site in question. http://cosanglas.com/ -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] need to get a negative margin working
div id=leftcol
a href=#
h2 class=cosanhead
*(I need this heading to have a negative left margin over the leftcol
div but it wont budge)*
/h2
/a
..
/div
heres the css :
a:link h2.cosanhead {
height:90px; margin-left:-57px; width:150px;
background-image:url(cosanlogodormant.jpg);
background-repeat:no-repeat;
border:0px solid black;
}
a:hover h2.cosanhead, h2.cosanheadactive {
background-image: url(../images/cosanlogo.jpg);
background-repeat:no-repeat;
border:0px solid white;
}
is it something about it not being block level?
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[WSG] how come
hi, How come you cant change the list-type from none to circle(or anything else) on li a:hover? -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] how come
The list-style appears on the li element. The selector li a:hover matches the a element, which isn't display: list-item and so can't have a list marker. Additionally, CSS provides no way to select an element based on its children, so you can't match the list item based on the hover state of a link inside it. You could match li:hover, but that won't work in IE7 in Quirks mode or IE6 at all. Thanks, so its actually on a separate element in this case.. well that explains it. and sorry bout that everyone I was unaware that my email client did that. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] div over flash
hi, forgive me if this it ot, if so please reply off list. Whats the best cross-browser way to get a div on top of swf with css. If i use: param name=wmode value=opaque / with z-index will it be sufficent? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
Mark Stickley wrote: It is impossible to get a div sitting on top of flash in all browsers. hi mark, which browsers/versions would give me problems? Your best bet is to hide the flash while your overlay is showing and show it when it hides again. If the blank space where your flash was will be obvious you could set a background image similar-looking to the flash on it's container div. Thats a good idea actually the design im working on might allow for that with some tweaking Hi Albert, Whats the browser support like for your example that seems to work well? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] div over flash
Ted Drake wrote: The YUI container library offers the iframe shim, built in for ie6. Watch the wmode:transparent if your flash movie contains actual content. Wmode:transparent makes it justifiably invisible to screen readers. It’s basically telling the browser and screen reader the flash movie is for decoration and you can make other stuff obscure it. http://www.last-child.com/make-flash-accessible-to-screen-readers-in-transparent-window-mode/ I did an i frame shim a long time ago, i though there might be a newer way now. Thanks on the heads up for the screen reader-dindnt know that. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: [WSG] CSS editors
there is a free version of bbedit called textwrangler if you can hardcode. Gicela Morales wrote: Hi Everyone, I've just migrated form PC to a new macbook :-) but was wondering about the best xhtml/css editors for macs around that people can recommend? I can see that BBEdit is still around ( I used to use this back in the 90's) and CSSedit seem to have some good reviews. Any preferences? Kind regards, Gicela *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Email form builder
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know of a free online resource for building a form that sends an email? One that's aimed at people with limited knowledge of databases. I'm trying to locate one for a friend. He'd like to add his own customisable fields too. Most of the ones I am searching for want you to pay for it. Would really appreciate any help. If you friend builds sites semi-frequently he might as well just start using word press or textpattern. If hes just doing a one off theres probably a good extension or tutorial for dreamweaver. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-MED: Re: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?
micheal md wrote: I tend to avoid using anything that needs flash player 9 where possible and so far I haven't found anything I needed to do that really needed actionscript 3 How about flv? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] old horizontal list formatting issue in ie
Matijs wrote: Hello Kevin, Not sure what you mean by stretch to the width of the ul in ie Do you mean to distribute them evenly within the width of the ul? Hi Matijs, Floating the images/ anchors contained in the li's left next to each other is what im trying to do. But right now each li streches to the width of the ul so the cant float left. Even distributing them evenly would be fine though. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] old horizontal list formatting issue in ie
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: You're running into specificity problems... ahhh... thanks George. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] old horizontal list formatting issue in ie
Hi,
Its late and i forget what makes these li's stretch to the width of the
ul in ie?
ul.bos_image_index {
margin-left: 0;
padding-left: 0;
white-space: nowrap;
}
.bos_image_index li {
display: inline;
list-style-type: none;
border:1px solid black;
}
.bos_image_index li a {
border:1px solid pink;
}
.bos_image_index li:hover {
border-bottom:2px solid #333;
}
.bos_image_index li img{
height:45px;
width:60px;
}
for example see:
http://soathar.macdesign.eu/seamus-gallery
(silly border colors applied for visual aid)
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] Accessible menu lists - using the pipe character as separator?
I use those sometimes if theres a load of dynamic links in the footer but never as the primary navigation bar. It would probably be torture for someone using a screen reader. Use a list with the border if you can. Hello all I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this via Google - is it best practice to use something like the pipe character ( | ) to separate links in a menu so that screenreader software pauses between the list items? Any recommended articles dealing with accessible menus in general? Daisy *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] semantics of a simple form
Hi Drew, Thanks for the feedback. The aspx programmer is open to standards and may be receptive to my advice. how about this: fieldset legendRoom Search/legend div class=checkin labelCheck-in Date:/label select name=... option value=101/option /select .. /div div class=checkout label for=...Check-out Date:/label select name=... ./select div class=button input type=submit name=... value=Search id=... / /div /div /fieldset ...allthough when i look at it this nearly feels like a list to me... -best kevin Drew Trusz wrote: While it is possible that the check-in-check-out is truly a header, it seems unlikely. It feels like a text sizing issue and that should be done through css not mangled headers. I realize you may have no control over that but it seems worth mentioning. drew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6
Hi, Having a problem with suckerfish drowndowns, ie6 shows the nested lists expanded to the full height of all li's. Im doing the css for a programmer and im not sure whats going wrong. is it possible the javascript fix isnt being picked up? Im not doing that part of the programming. Anyone see this before? www.grandcentralhotel.ie -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6
cheers george.
i thought the !important; fixed that but apparently not.
menus height ok in ie6, just have to give it a conditional comment for
the width now.
-thanks a mill
kevin
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Sure, IE6 has no respect for declared dimensions - !important or not,
and expands #mainMenu li to make room for #mainMenu li ul.
Suggest you add...
* html #mainMenu li ul {margin-bottom: -1000px;}
...to prevent IE6 from acting on the height.
regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] Is it a good/bad practise to have more than one same link url?
im not an expert but i dont think it would help tee. dont think google favors duplicate content anymore. but i dont know. tee wrote: I was thinking maybe it's a SEO question and shouldn't post it here, however, the more I think about it, the more I feel it deserves a semantical perspective and wonder if it creates obstacle for screen reader. In a content block (a teaser or a product for example) where you have an image, a short description or paragraph with a link to another page, say, the image is relevant to the title, is it good or bad to have both image and title (or 'read more') anchored, not in one link, but two separate links ? tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6
Thanks, Only other services and local information have drop downs and they are showing up in ff3 for me. what version are you using? Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote: Your top links aren't working in Firefox, the nav li's need a z-index to appear above the flash. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6
hmm, drop downs are not showing up in safari either.
I do have z-index defined so not sure what the problem is.
#mainMenu li ul li {
padding-right: 1em;
width: 13em;
text-align:left;
text-indent:5px;
border-bottom:solid 1px #fff;
z-index:1002;
}
and also on the li ul { z-index:1002;}
hmm
Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote:
Your top links aren't working in Firefox, the nav li's need a z-index to
appear above the flash.
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[WSG] semantics of a simple form
im not an expert on this but should there be a fieldset or legend around this? not even sure if it qualifies as a form, although it has a submit button. h4Check-in Date:/h4 select name=... option value=101/option . /select select name=... id=... option selected=selected value=09|2008Sep 08/option . /select h4Check-out Date:/h4 select name=... option value=101/option ./select select name=... option selected=selected value=09|2008Sep 08/option . /select div class=button input type=submit name=... value=Search id=... / /div -thanks in advance kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] suckerfish problem - ie6
hi, Thats strange eBiz, The dropdowns are working over the flash in ff3 mac for me. Anyway im getting that or a very similar problem in safari so will def try your suggestion tomorrow. Actually the hover states are not even working in safari though so it might be another issue alltogether. George that ie solution you put together works very nice - thanks again. Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote: FF3, it only happens on the home page where the flash is, if you set your flash container to z-index 1 (assuming your using SWFobject) and you ul to z-index 99 then it will work in all browsers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] semantics of a simple form
is an aspx page, theres a form around the whole page, so theres not an individual one around this content block. ok i will use fieldset and legend. -best kevin Todd Budnikas wrote: i assume there is a form tag wrapped around this you didn't include? Would obviously require that to qualify as a form. a fieldset is not required for a form to process, but certain doctypes require a fieldset to validate. I always use them as it typically makes the form easier to digest. A legend is not required for any doctype that i know of, but to me, help define the fieldset, rather than using the h4 as you have in your example. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Google chrome...
what do you all think about the way chrome re-sizes (ctrl +) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Google chrome...
First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on me. Very uncluttered. And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen real estate. Well designed gui, all its needs now is firebug and id use it. And i like the incognito windows, thats a slick feature. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] doctype validation and jello layout in ie issues
Hi im developing a site and have a couple problems. www.pattersonskitchens.ie First I cant get the doctype to validate, not sure why 2nd: cant get the expanding/repeating background div on left hand side to work in ie. theres a few other issues but these are the two that have me stuck. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] resetting input boxes
christian wrote: line-height: the ugly henchman lurking in the shadows, ready to strikewhen margin and padding have been defeated. yes exactly that meyer reset addresses line height setting it to 1.5 ems i think, the equivelent of 18pixels. But I dont think he had forms/input boxes in mind when he did that part. Once i figured that out i was able to style my form from hell. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
Ok here it is-Im just putting this up here as a last ditch effort. http://67.199.64.89/newtable3.html Can anyone offer advice on fixing/locking table cell/row height across browsers? The main problem is making the two adjacent tables appear to be one continuous table. Getting the cell height to line up is proving very difficult, maybe impossible. It aligns ok in ff3 but breaks in ie6 and ie7 both in different ways. Im using the height html attribute right now because i cant think of another way to fix the height of cells with the differnt kinds of different data in them. Im trying to fix a broken .net layout with css and html. Its never going to validate, theres nothing i can do about that. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
yes if i was doing the asp i would have looked at that for a solution. But still its very tabular as well. EBS wrote: Could you not do this with div's and use an unordered list? Mathew O'Connor Essential eBiz Solutions \** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
cheers joseph,
its two different tables because of some show hide function that
requires that.
I pushed for one table but apparently that cant be done.
Thanks for the tip on the images, that was causing a problem, im going
to clear them and use text.
Regarding this:
td {
min-height: 50px;
_height: 50px; /* for IE7 */
}
brilliant thanks
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
yes for some reason programmer needs two tables which was the big issue for me. I have the height alignments just about worked out now though. Regarding the color, there isnt much color in the table layout, unless you counting black which is a shade like white. The input boxes have to be color coded i need to adjust those as they are quite busy at the moment. -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
joseph what browser is that screen shot from? i wasnt getting the left hand text overflowing like that in any of my browsers. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell
joseph i keep my brightness at 0, and thought it matched. thanks for the tip Joseph Taylor wrote: Kevin, If I may make a recommendation, adjust the background color of your cells to match the bottom color of your background gradients so when text gets enlarged it still looks smooth inside the cell rather than having the graphic cut off. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] resetting input boxes
can they be set for consistency across browsers? if so what are all the attributes that need to be reset, i missing something. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] stupid table question
how can I lock down tr / td height so it wont expand to the size of the text contained within? is it possible? something like overflow:hidden for a cell? thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] Marking up a Calendar
theres a good standards based calendar tut here: http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/a_css_styled_calendar/ -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] form from hell - difficult redesign
Hi I've been asked to redesign the gui on a hotel booking engine / room allocation web app. Its basically the busiest example of tabular data ive ever seen - most data in the cells is input. Any Advice on styling an overwhelming amount tabular data? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] form from hell - difficult redesign
thanks good advice, i will comment it heavily.
i will have to use crazy selectors as you say.
The form is in a restricted site but i will put up a screen shot.
Joseph Taylor wrote:
If you can't clean up the html you'll be forced to use ridiculous
selectors like:
table tr td table tr td form table tr td input {
padding: 0.35em;
}
Use firebug to get the complex selectors right and comment the hell
out of your stylesheets so you can come back it later without freaking
out - good luck!
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kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Hi I've been asked to redesign the gui on a hotel booking engine /
room allocation web app.
Its basically the busiest example of tabular data ive ever seen -
most data in the cells is input.
Any Advice on styling an overwhelming amount tabular data?
-best
kevin
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Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
its used as a shim. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry folks, but am I missing something here? Why do you think that it is important to stuff something invisible inside an (otherwise) empty div? Regards, Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
empty div wont validate right? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not the clearing div, I know what that is for!! What is the _content_ of the div supposed to do, that an truly empty div would not? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:33 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height its used as a shim. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry folks, but am I missing something here? Why do you think that it is important to stuff something invisible inside an (otherwise) empty div? Regards, Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] old underscore hack question
hi,
i want to use the underscore hack instead of conditional comments
because it will be easier to keep track of image paths.
Its only an ie6 because transparency workaround.
In my understanding the below code should only serve the gif to ie 6,
not later versions?
but IE net renderer is rendering the gif in all ie versions.
Its not really like that in a real life right?
#shell{
background:url(../images/bgshad.png);
_background: url(../images/iebg.gif);
margin:0 auto;
background-repeat:repeat-y;
}
thanks in advance
-kevin
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[WSG] ie six download?
I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
Andrew Newman wrote:
a little more valid / semantic
div.clearer {clear: both; line-height: 0; height: 0;}
div class=clearernbsp;/div
On 17/07/2008, at 4:04 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
now i can validate.
thank you
-kevin
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Re: [WSG] ie six download?
Thanks, But I was afraid updating that way might put version 7 on, I can use net renderer to give me ie 7 previews. The problem is that the renderers, and ies for mac, dont render png transparency hacks very well... Anyway sorted it all out with the link provided on previous post-very handy thanks for the links. -best kevin David Hucklesby wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:35:32 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote: I bought got an old laptop for testing sites-it has ie 5.5 on it now, Anybody know where i can download an upgrade to ie6 for windows 2000 proffessional? Assuming you have a legit version of Win 2000, you can just run a regular Windows update to get it. FWIW - I did this a week ago to add IE6 to VMware Fusion on my MacBook. Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
Thank you david,
a tip from that article has me sorted.
I put a div at the bottom of the rapper content like this:
div class=clear/div
.clear{clear:both}
nice trick just kind of forces,
but I still dont understand why the outer wrapper would'nt scale
automatically with three
columns in an inner wrapper with no heights set anywhere /unless /the
outerwrapper was floated left or right itself..
-best
kevin
David Hucklesby wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:08:47 +0100, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
hi,
I have a wrapper in that wont scale to its contained content/divs but there are
no
heights set in the divs that i can see. Is there something else that can cause
this? -
Yes. If the content has A.P. blocks or floats that are not contained
then the containing DIV might not expand.
If the problem is due to floats, there are several methods available
for containing them here:
http://www.digital-web.com/articles/web_design_101_floats/
Cordially,
David
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[WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height
hi, I have a wrapper in that wont scale to its contained content/divs but there are no heights set in the divs that i can see. Is there something else that can cause this? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] visibility problem in ie...z-index maybe?
hi,
im using negative margins to put a png half over the edge of a wrapper
div.
Works good in ff, but breaks the layout in ie.
Is there anything i can do to get ie to display the
div like fire fox does or is this to tall an order for ie?
-best
kevin
http://pattersons.s34978.gridserver.com/indexnew1.html
heres the css of the div with the image:
#kitchenhead{ z-index:999;
width:200px;
height:100px;
margin-top:-35px;
padding-top:40px;
background-image:url(../images/kitchen.png);
background-position: 0 0;
overflow:visible;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
}
heres the css for the div that its going under at the moment:
#shellhead
{
background-image: url(../images/yellowtopshad.png);
background-repeat:repeat-x;
width:999px;
margin:0 auto;
padding-top:20px;
}
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Re: [WSG] visibility problem in ie...z-index maybe?
Thanks David, That works well in ie 6 7. I only had to add a negative margin in a conditional comment to the div that was getting pushed up. -best kevin David Owens wrote: Hi Kevin, You might be better off using position: relative; top: -35px; instead of the negative margin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] list links
Hi, Is it possible to target specific classes in a list to apply different background image to the different links in a list nav? tried everything i could think of but cant get it to work. something like: #navlist li .furniture a or applying the different images to the anchors instead of the lis? tried but no use... -best kevin Prisca schmarsow wrote: Kevin, have a look at this sample page here: http://graphiceyedea.info/experiments/css/ul_sprite_rollovers/ Check out the image used for rollover (as it includes both rollover states, you could have more, of course) - and view the CSS for more info. Hope this helps :) Prisca Thanks Prisca, i will use that. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] list links
Rick Lecoat wrote: Note the removal of the space; li.furniture refers to a list item that has the class 'funiture'; li .furniture refers to some other element with a class=furniture *that is contained within* a list item. oh boywell that explains it.. Thanks for the tip on the anchor element darren. thanks a mill everyone. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] list links
hi, im doing a list with a background image and some text. how can an make the whole li area hot and not just the text. i forgot how to do that -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] list links
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Re: [WSG] list links
Rick Lecoat wrote: The main thing is to make sure that the list item is set to display: block. I had tried that rick but i was putting the padding in the li not the li a. Do i still need to make li's block elements for ie? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] list links
Sorry Kevin, I meant to say that the a *inside* the li should be
set to display: block. list items are block level by default.
no problem thanks for the help.
Theres another issue with this nav bar. There are 3 primary links that
have images - the rest are just text. Ive used an id to include the
background image.
Is it possible to put hover states on these images as well?
there allready is a hover state on the plain li a's and i cant get it
working
best
-kevin
http://pattersons.s34978.gridserver.com/indexnew.html
#navlist li a
{
}
#navlist li a:link {
color: #EFEFEF;
}
#navlist li a:visited
{
color: #EFEFEF;
}
#navlist li a:hover
{
background: none;
color: #3399FF;
}
#kitchens a{
background-image: url(../images/sink.png);
.
}
#kitchens li a:hover{
background-image: url(../images/sinkover.png);
}
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[WSG] putting inline styles into an external stylesheet
What is the software, plug in or extension that does this automatically? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] flash navigation - Devils advocate
Hi Patrick, i know thats the case with flash but what about the css/xhtml no flash content that validates when you use swf object 2.0 static method. If theres no flash support it degrades to normal xhtml navigation. A more specific question is if the majority of users are using the flash to navigate how will it impact seo? Patrick H. Lauke wrote: kevin mcmonagle wrote: Using swf object 2.0 embeded swfs as an xhtml sites primary navigation - what are the liabilities? without flash, no navigation; not crawled/indexed by search engines; not keyboard-accessible in firefox; even in other browsers, not accessible unless you make damn sure your flash itself is accessible; wouldn't work on devices like iPhone and co... more? P *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] flash navigation - Devils advocate
Rick Lecoat wrote: If the visitor has Flash then the Flash swf replaces the alternative content. If they don't (or if they don't have javascript turned on) then they'll get the fallback content, which should also suffice for search engines. (Of course, don't make your fallback navigation javascript-dependant). Hi rick, Yes but do search engines count the times an xhtml link is clicked or when the page is loaded? For example: If there are two sites. one uses a swf object 2 swf for navigation like this: div id=swf_obeject_content ul class=navlist lia href... lia href... /ul /div One doesnt: div id=regurlar_div ul class=navlist lia href... lia href... /ul /div would google give the same ranking to both pages?? is it possible to be sure? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] flash navigation - Devils advocate
Thank you matijs thats what i was wondering, you make a good point about using javascript but im not an expert in using it. Matijs wrote: There isn't really a way for a search engine to see how many times a link has been clicked. It is however possible for a search engine to see / count how many links are pointing to a page (either internally or externally), thereby measuring its 'popularity'. up.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] flickr streams
any good standards based tutorials out there for adding them to regular xhtml pages? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] flickr streams
Thanks thats just what i was looking for. Melissa wrote: Best one I've seen and used is at Veerle Pieters' blog: http://veerle.duoh.com/blog/comments/fickr_badge_w3c_valid/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] flash navigation - Devils advocate
Using swf object 2.0 embeded swfs as an xhtml sites primary navigation - what are the liabilities? -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] html vs. html
Hi, Are there any free services like net renderer that show firefox 2x. scree captures? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] firefox 3 beta5
Recently it was pointed out to me that a site I built is breaking in firefox 3 beta five. How close is this to release? Do i need to worry about this? the site works fine in current browsers-firefox and otherwise. -thanks in advance kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Full flash websites
Michael Persson wrote: Do we still want the money to produce their website or do we say no because we are web standard freaks and would never touch such a bad usability and accessibilty project dirty money hahaha.. Well would we...?? If all they want is eye candy give it to them and take the money surely. Just explain that its not going to do well in google and that a hybrid site would be better. Or mabye show him a cms that he can use with a hybrid site and that might get him fired up. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Full flash websites
What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for flash in general?? Im a big fan of xhtml/flash hybrid sites myself. Usually I'll consider using flash for anything but links(usability reasons) and the body text ( for seo). But at the moment Im working on a design that uses flash for some links but its not necessary to use them. Heres an example of a typical hybrid-its still a work in progress. http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/friday *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] will this ever validate?(swfobject 2.0)
Hi, Im trying swf object 2.0. http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup2.html Im using the static-standards compliant method that uses conditional comments. I thought it would validate better than this. Theres a lot of unclosed errors on the param tags. Should i just self close those i wonder? Theres also errors with ids being defined twice. Is anyone else usign swfobject 2.0 here, if so are you using dynamic or static method and why? -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] valid video in (x)html?
try these, http://code.google.com/p/swfobject/ http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=JW_FLV_Media_Player -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] why
Is this wrapper floating over the mast div in ie7 only? ahhh. http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/mockup.html http://www.seaviewnightclub.com/css/boxes.css -best kvn *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] selectutorial
hi, My friend wants to learn about css so i told him to do the selectutorial on the maxdesign site. It says to reset the margins in the body then use ems for padding. I was reading somewhere that cancelling out the margins in the body tells the browsers to go through all the tags and cancel out the margins and that it actually adds to download time. I dont know if thats realistic or not but ive been using margins for spacing between divs for a long time. Whats the final word on resetting and using margins to avoid cross browsers problems? best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] seo / standards question
That makes good sense Matijs but it would take some work to get my cms to do that. Maybe a dl would be the best comprimise? Is there a huge difference between using that structure and a definition list? -thanks kevin Matijs wrote: I'd go for nested lists ul liheading 1 ul liitem 1/li ... /ul /li liheading 2 ul etc... And use h's where they are actual headings like Dave Woods suggested. Gr. Matijs On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: list On Apr 09, 2008, at 14:36, kevin mcmonagle wrote: hi, im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a nav bar just a section of the site that has a number of related articles. im using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to use for the list break tags. right now im using li with the title of each page like this. h2section title/h2 ul liapage name 1/a/li liapage name 2/a/li ... /ul but im wondering if i should use h2's instead? would google give more importance to the h2s? plus it really is a list of page headings so i guess semantically it could go either way right? so either: h2section title/h2 h3apage name/a/h3 h3apage name2/a/h3 ... thanks in advance -kevin mcmonagle www.mcmonagledesign.com http://www.mcmonagledesign.com www.donegalimage.com http://www.donegalimage.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] seo / standards question
hi, im generating a list of page links from my cms, its not really for a nav bar just a section of the site that has a number of related articles. im using h2 for the over all list label but am wondering what to use for the list break tags. right now im using li with the title of each page like this. h2section title/h2 ul liapage name 1/a/li liapage name 2/a/li ... /ul but im wondering if i should use h2's instead? would google give more importance to the h2s? plus it really is a list of page headings so i guess semantically it could go either way right? so either: h2section title/h2 h3apage name/a/h3 h3apage name2/a/h3 ... thanks in advance -kevin mcmonagle www.mcmonagledesign.com www.donegalimage.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] ie background img positioning
hi,
I have a bg image set for heading links like so:
h3 a:link, h3 a:visited, h4 a:link, h4 a:visited {
overflow:visible; background: url(/images/arrowh3.jpg) no-repeat 100% -1px;
padding: 0 40px 0 0;
}
The problem is that if a long heading breaks to two lines the background
image will not be aligned right in ie 6 or 7, works fine in fire fox.
Its just needs to go to the end of the sentence with a bit of padding.
Not sure whats causing it.
thanks in advance
also thanks dave for help on the other topic, ill stick with the li's.
-kevin
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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
I think its very handy even though i hardcode most stuff. Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not. The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator. I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive. Sorry if thats off topic. James Jeffery wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
the soundtrack was Re: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest
hi, thanks for the reply but im going go with the a controllable music player that ill do up in flash. The main problem was that he wanted a continuous song going on the site which would have been impossible without frames. But as some members suggested a controllable player is much more standards compliant. Plus I can sell him on giving the users choice of hearing the different djs that play at the club. thanks -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction
hi, Im doing a site for a nightclub. So im doing a hybrid. The owner has demanded a music track playing continuously. What would you lot do if you had to put in a continually playing music track? I mean the only solution that is a frameset right but i just want some feedback of the dangers of this. -thanks in advance kev *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] SEO, fact or fiction
hi, i think if i cold sell him on a player that would be user controlled. I will tell him he can put in more tracks by his dj's. Sorry i meant to change the title of the post. thanks a million. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] ie8 flash scripts
hi, anyone know how ie8 will work with ufo flash detection js and and the standard dreamweaver flv embedding scripts? thanks in advance kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Patrick Lauke wrote: There's not even a downloadable beta of ie8 out yet...so I think there won't be much of an answer beyond speculation? suppose your right early days yet. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] CMS review
That code isn't standards based. Use textpattern. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] background-position:top center; IE6?
hi, is there any way to get ie6 to accept this property: background-position:top center; i have a tabular nav bar with different width tabs, the background image needs to center itself. thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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If its not a repeating background this is the easiest way to get png support: http://www.twinhelix.com/css/iepngfix/ -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] repeating background png support ie6
Hi, Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a repeating background img? Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working. Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating background image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for normal browsers and one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the png from ie6 and give it the gif one with conditional comments. Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that would be great. beta page: http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] repeating background png support ie6
Tony I was using browsercam.com but these sites are far handier and free-thanks. also the star selector hack works very well for this issue, thanks christian. -best kevin Tony wrote: Hey Kevin, I have the same problem with my ies4linux, so I just use an online tester. For quick checks of IE6/7 I use the netrenderer: http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ and for more advanced checks use browsershots: http://browsershots.org/ Cheers, Tony kevin mcmonagle wrote: Hi, Whats the standards way to handle or degrade ie6 png support for a repeating background img? Im having problems solving this-ies4mac doesn't seem to do well with conditional comments and png hacks-so i cant tell whats working. Im thinking about putting the wrapper div with the repeating background image in two different stylesheets. One with a png for normal browsers and one with a gif for ie then i would just hide the png from ie6 and give it the gif one with conditional comments. Also if anyone can email me a screen shot from ie6 off list that would be great. beta page: http://www.arasgcc.com/indextest.html -thanks kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] ie problem
Hi,
Im frustrated with a margin difference in ie6. Im modifying a zen cart
install and didnt create the style sheets and dont have much control
over the html.
The problem is the two links (log in and home) at the top right of the
page header. Ive added The borders just so you can see the boxes.
http://cart66.macdesign.eu/
heres the rules:
#navMainWrapper{margin-top:15px;
background-image: url(../../../../images/header.jpg);
background-repeat:no-repeat;
background-position:0 -21px;
_background-position:0 0;
border:0px solid pink;
height:65px;
padding-top:0;
margin-top:0;
padding-bottom:0;
}
#navMain ul li a
{ margin:43px 35px 0 0;
border:1px solid black;
float:right; display:block;
}
/*i think the problem is related to this rule*/
#navMain
{
border:1px solid pink;
display:block;
overflow:visible;
margin-bottom:0; height:1%;
}
I've been trying to figure this out for a long time and need help.
thanks
kevin
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Re: [WSG] hello
yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre. Thomas Thomassen wrote: Nothing. Web 2.0 is a buzzword. There's nothing truely new. It's often accociated with social networking. Sites where the users provide the content. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
note to anyone who wants to run ies4mac. install wine verstion .51 the current version doesnt work. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] running ie7 on my mac??
it renders the same but the gui is forked. Terrence Wood wrote: I perfer fusion over parallels. Cheapest option to run IE only has got to be http://www.kronenberg.org/ies4osx/ which is free. I haven't tested it, so I'm not sure how accurate the rendering is compared to running a real version of windows. On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent: Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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thanks for the good reply's guys. I think im gonna try this one first:
http://macapper.com/2007/11/29/ies4osx-run-internet-explorer-567-natively-in-os-x/
-best
kevin
Joe Ortenzi wrote:
horses for courses. Worked fine on three of my leopards,
two installed under tiger then updated to leopard, one afterwards. I
reccommend running it as reccommended and not tweaking very much. but
give it plenty of RAM!
but If vmware works for you, brill!
one of my developers compared and reckons parallels was a better
product for web developers who also need tools to run in XP
On Jan 25 2008, at 16:16, Gregory Alan Gross wrote:
Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it
refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install
properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since.
g.
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Hi,
Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based
mac.
Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual
pc?
Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment.
-best
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hi,
just a quick follow up. After 20mins downloading and installing and no
cost im running ie6 and 7 natively in tiger with ies4osx. It aint pretty
but it works.
-best
kevin
kevin mcmonagle wrote:
thanks for the good reply's guys. I think im gonna try this one first:
http://macapper.com/2007/11/29/ies4osx-run-internet-explorer-567-natively-in-os-x/
-best
kevin
Joe Ortenzi wrote:
horses for courses. Worked fine on three of my leopards, two
installed under tiger then updated to leopard, one afterwards. I
reccommend running it as reccommended and not tweaking very much. but
give it plenty of RAM!
but If vmware works for you, brill!
one of my developers compared and reckons parallels was a better
product for web developers who also need tools to run in XP
On Jan 25 2008, at 16:16, Gregory Alan Gross wrote:
Had a terrible time on my Intel MacBook with Parallels Desktop; it
refused to play nice with OS X Leopard. Wouldn't even install
properly. Switched to VMware Fusion, and haven't had a problem since.
g.
On Fri , kevin mcmonagle sent:
Hi,
Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based
mac.
Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual
pc?
Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment.
-best
kevin
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Hi, Whats my cheapest option for getting ie7 to run on my intel based mac. Is it basically an option between boot camp, parallels or virtual pc? Very frustrated with discrepancies at the moment. -best kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
