Re: [XFree86] RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
Melissa Golter wrote: Are you still having problems with the SiS300 in XFree 4.3? If so, what sort of problems? Thomas Hope this is clear enough... a. yes, the SiS300 card is not being recognized by RH7.3, nor RH7.3 with XFree86 version 4.3.0, on my system. Right now, Xconfig will only allow a screen to show if the refresh rate is reduced to 60, color bit depth to 8, and VESA selected. No idea about RH. b. I have attached the XFree86.0.log (there is also a copy at ftp.evl.uic.edu/pub/INcoming/mgolter/xfree/. There was, as Cynthia Grossen noted, a [drm] drmAgpAcquire failed error (as well a *libglide2x.so missing* message which (apparently) has to do with 3DFX cards, so I have ignored the .so message -- that message has not re-appeared). Let me know if any other info is necessary to help amend the situation? 1) Your not telling us *what*the*problem*is. Nice log, but from that I can't see what is going on on the screen. 2) Generally: The SiS300 and especially the SiS301 are more or less obsolete products. I have never seen a SiS300 card with a SiS301 for secondary VGA output, hence I could never test this. From the log I see that your monitor is connected to the secondary output. Try the other one. 3) (==) SIS(0): Depth 8, (==) framebuffer bpp 8 The color depth is 8. Is that intended? c. Some day I would like to try to run some 3d graphics applications (Performer, YG, CavernSoft) on this system. From the (your) Thomas Winischhofer webpages I see SiS is one company that does not share development info and perhaps this card is not a likely candidate for such efforts? It most certainly is not. The card is from around 1998... (Note: until I saw the support for the SiS300 card listed under 4.3 I had intended on picking up the SiS300 (your) *fix* on those (your) pages. Then I thought mebbe it had been included in 4.3? They are. (WW) SIS(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 28.00-33.00kHz (WW) SIS(0): Monitor0: using default vrefresh range of 43.00-72.00Hz That's very narrow. Sure that your monitor does not go beyond that? Thomas -- Thomas Winischhofer Vienna/Austria mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.winischhofer.net/ ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
RE: [XFree86] RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Daniel wrote:
Melisa,
I get the same problem (missing libglide2x.so) with XFree86
4.2.99.902
release (essentially 4.3) whilst trying to get my Radion 9000 pro to
run
in X under Linux Mandrake 9.0. How did you solve this?
-Did you get create the soft link with the libglide3x.so rather than
libglide2x.so
no, as I was informed the libglide3x.so was used only with 3Dfx cards
(Note: i have no idea why the message appeared -- on reboot it did not
show up again). Do you still get that message? Were you able to make
Xconfig recognize your card? Did you get your driver from ATI (I
don't
remember what u said)?
I have to admit, I haven't attempted to start X since getting the
message (missing libglide2x.so) when I run Xfree86 -configure. I guess I
assumed the worst and didn't bother. Assuming the XF8Config.new looks ok
then I will try this tomorrow.
The drivers from ATI didn't work (I'm not alone in experiencing how
ineffectual they are!)
1) attempted to install the 4.2.X ATI drivers found
athttp://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html?cboOS=Linux
XFree86cboProducts=RADEON+9000eula=choice=agreecm
however, when I login as root and try:
2) $rpm -i name of file for x server 4.2.x : yields no ouptut, so
do I assume everything is ok
3) $rpm -q name of file for x server 4.2.x:tells me the package
is not installed
4) $rpm -qpl name of file for x server4 .2.x : yields no output
5) Also I also can't seem to find where fglrxconfig is meant to be
installed let alone run it!
Note: I have read a number of posts on ATI chips...most particularly
the
Radeon 9000. Perhaps messaging one of those people who answered
queries on
that type card (they tend to know one manufacturer well) would attract
attention? Do you keep these posts? (try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I
sent
you one of his posts that mentioned Radeon's 9000)
thanks for sending me the email from Danian - that too looks promising
-Did you have to edit the XF86config to take account of this change (I
have created mine with XFree86 - configure)
My Xconfig would not work until I reduced the refresh rate to 60, the
color bit to 8 and selected VESA...way bad, but was able to at least
increase the resolution to over 800x600!
H sounds a bit worrying; I will bear this in mind
VSince I am not content (I got better results with the XFree86 version
that
came with RH7.3 -- I only went to XFree86 ver4.3 as it promised SiS300
support which wasn't happening under the RH7.3 version (I forget which
version that is)), I am gonna try to go to RH8.0 and be content till I
can
buy a new card... ;P
I'm beginning to see why Windows XP (which happily coexists with my
9000) is so popular!
Without XP we wouldn't be able to exchange these e-mails! I like Linux
(as it is similar to the Solaris I use at work) but I would want to be
totally reliant on it!
So to end I will give some of your suggestions a go in a structured
fashion and see what works best
Good night
Daniel
Yes, I understand that a bit! I do dual boot with Win2K still as
evidently
I too am far away from being ready/able to changeover;[ !
Sorry I can't help you more...I keep checking all the posts and
reading
elsewhere in hopes to find something that might put some light on this
subject. If I read anything (more), or get help from the Xconfig
people (before or after the upgrade), I will try to pass it on.
mgolter
Regards
Daniel
The linux and XFree4 install was so I can run some 3D
applications...but I
did not know that glide was so specifically aimed...the Real problem
was
that I couldn't get the X server configured at all. Right now I am
stuck with 16 bit color...(using generic VESA in Xconfigurator, which
is
not as good as what I could get with the XFree86 version that came
with
RH7.3!
{I installed the 4.3 version as no other version even lists the
SiS300
chip...and it looks like 4.3 doesn't really support it either...)
Thanks for info on the .so (so's I am not a gonna worry (esp since no
system complaints!)
;)
mgolter
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Melissa Golter wrote:
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:57:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Melissa Golter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
If I am reading the filename correctly, that file is 26Mb -- but if
that
is OK to
send to you, will do...in the meantime, I put it in
ftp.evl.uic.edu/pub/INcoming/mgolter/xfree/
btw, ver 4.3.0 has libglide3.so but not the 2x.so nec to configure
the
system correctly. I am supposing I can find the libglide2x.so
somewhere
(note: the previous version of XFree86 -- the one that came with
RH7.3,
did not include it either it seems (a *whereis* did not yield
RE: [XFree86] RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0 If I am reading the filename correctly, that file is 26Mb -- but if that is OK to send to you, will do...in the meantime, I put it in ftp.evl.uic.edu/pub/INcoming/mgolter/xfree/ btw, ver 4.3.0 has libglide3.so but not the 2x.so nec to configure the system correctly. I am supposing I can find the libglide2x.so somewhere (note: the previous version of XFree86 -- the one that came with RH7.3, did not include it either it seems (a *whereis* did not yield a result from the saved XFree version directory either). ;P Just so you don't end up wasting your time Glide is strictly a 3Dfx low level 3D video driver library which talks directly to 3Dfx Voodoo and Banshee video hardware. Glide 2 is for Voodoo Graphics I/II hardware, and Glide3 is for Voodoo 3/4/5 and Banshee hardware. Glide does not work on any other video hardware, and is totally useless unless you have 3Dfx video hardware, in which case it provides the layer between DRI and the 3Dfx video card for 3D acceleration. In short: You've got an SiS video card, and Glide is meaningless as far as your system is concerned. -- Mike A. Harris ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 Radion 9000 Pro ML9.0 and the m ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
not a gonna worry (esp since no system complaints!) ;) mgolter On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Melissa Golter wrote: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:57:34 -0600 (CST) From: Melissa Golter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0 If I am reading the filename correctly, that file is 26Mb -- but if that is OK to send to you, will do...in the meantime, I put it in ftp.evl.uic.edu/pub/INcoming/mgolter/xfree/ btw, ver 4.3.0 has libglide3.so but not the 2x.so nec to configure the system correctly. I am supposing I can find the libglide2x.so somewhere (note: the previous version of XFree86 -- the one that came with RH7.3, did not include it either it seems (a *whereis* did not yield a result from the saved XFree version directory either). ;P Just so you don't end up wasting your time Glide is strictly a 3Dfx low level 3D video driver library which talks directly to 3Dfx Voodoo and Banshee video hardware. Glide 2 is for Voodoo Graphics I/II hardware, and Glide3 is for Voodoo 3/4/5 and Banshee hardware. Glide does not work on any other video hardware, and is totally useless unless you have 3Dfx video hardware, in which case it provides the layer between DRI and the 3Dfx video card for 3D acceleration. In short: You've got an SiS video card, and Glide is meaningless as far as your system is concerned. -- Mike A. Harris ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 Radion 9000 Pro ML9.0 and the m ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 -- Thomas Winischhofer Vienna/Austria mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://www.winischhofer.net ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Mar 22 09:26:19 2003 Date: 21 Mar 2003 22:37:36 -0800 From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [XFree86] Struggling with multihead on ATI's 9000 Pro I have tried a few things to get my multihead going in my Red Hat 8.0 installation. XFree86 is version 4.2.0. Anaconda gave me just the vesa driver and a cloned display. I've tried a few basic things that do not work. I've tried the XFree86 -configure and got some error warnings about a .h file with a missing entry. I tried the ATI drivers over at ATI's site and using the Check.sh script, I am getting the cryptic message: No Linux/ix86 binaries for this libc version I might try installing this RPM package if I had slightest idea that that this message was saying it was OK to do so. I also include here my latest XF86Config file: # XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 Screen 1 Screen1 RightOf Screen0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceDevInputMice AlwaysCore EndSection #Added by me ... Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama true Option CloneDisplay false EndSection Section Files # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like .txt or .db). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath unix/:7100 EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load extmod Load fbdevhw Load glx Load record Load freetype Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option Xleds 1 2 3 # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option XkbDisable # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option XkbModel pc102 # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option XkbModel microsoft # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option XkbLayout de # or: # Option XkbLayout de # Option XkbVariantnodeadkeys # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys
Re: [XFree86] RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Daniel wrote:
Melisa,
I get the same problem (missing libglide2x.so) with XFree86 4.2.99.902
release (essentially 4.3) whilst trying to get my Radion 9000 pro to run
in X under Linux Mandrake 9.0. How did you solve this?
-Did you get create the soft link with the libglide3x.so rather than
libglide2x.so
no, as I was informed the libglide3x.so was used only with 3Dfx cards
(Note: i have no idea why the message appeared -- on reboot it did not
show up again). Do you still get that message? Were you able to make
Xconfig recognize your card? Did you get your driver from ATI (I don't
remember what u said)?
Note: I have read a number of posts on ATI chips...most particularly the
Radeon 9000. Perhaps messaging one of those people who answered queries on
that type card (they tend to know one manufacturer well) would attract
attention? Do you keep these posts? (try [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I sent
you one of his posts that mentioned Radeon's 9000)
-Did you have to edit the XF86config to take account of this change (I
have created mine with XFree86 - configure)
My Xconfig would not work until I reduced the refresh rate to 60, the
color bit to 8 and selected VESA...way bad, but was able to at least
increase the resolution to over 800x600!
Since I am not content (I got better results with the XFree86 version that
came with RH7.3 -- I only went to XFree86 ver4.3 as it promised SiS300
support which wasn't happening under the RH7.3 version (I forget which
version that is)), I am gonna try to go to RH8.0 and be content till I can
buy a new card... ;P
I'm beginning to see why Windows XP (which happily coexists with my
9000) is so popular!
Yes, I understand that a bit! I do dual boot with Win2K still as evidently
I too am far away from being ready/able to changeover ;[ !
Sorry I can't help you more...I keep checking all the posts and reading
elsewhere in hopes to find something that might put some light on this
subject. If I read anything (more), or get help from the Xconfig
people (before or after the upgrade), I will try to pass it on.
mgolter
Regards
Daniel
The linux and XFree4 install was so I can run some 3D
applications...but I
did not know that glide was so specifically aimed...the Real problem
was
that I couldn't get the X server configured at all. Right now I am
stuck with 16 bit color...(using generic VESA in Xconfigurator, which
is
not as good as what I could get with the XFree86 version that came with
RH7.3!
{I installed the 4.3 version as no other version even lists the SiS300
chip...and it looks like 4.3 doesn't really support it either...)
Thanks for info on the .so (so's I am not a gonna worry (esp since no
system complaints!)
;)
mgolter
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Melissa Golter wrote:
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:57:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Melissa Golter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Subject: RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
If I am reading the filename correctly, that file is 26Mb -- but if
that
is OK to
send to you, will do...in the meantime, I put it in
ftp.evl.uic.edu/pub/INcoming/mgolter/xfree/
btw, ver 4.3.0 has libglide3.so but not the 2x.so nec to configure
the
system correctly. I am supposing I can find the libglide2x.so
somewhere
(note: the previous version of XFree86 -- the one that came with
RH7.3,
did not include it either it seems (a *whereis* did not yield a
result
from the saved XFree version directory either). ;P
Just so you don't end up wasting your time
Glide is strictly a 3Dfx low level 3D video driver library which
talks directly to 3Dfx Voodoo and Banshee video hardware.
Glide 2 is for Voodoo Graphics I/II hardware, and Glide3 is for
Voodoo 3/4/5 and Banshee hardware.
Glide does not work on any other video hardware, and is totally
useless unless you have 3Dfx video hardware, in which case it
provides the layer between DRI and the 3Dfx video card for 3D
acceleration.
In short: You've got an SiS video card, and Glide is meaningless
as far as your system is concerned.
--
Mike A. Harris
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Re: [XFree86] RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
The linux and XFree4 install was so I can run some 3D applications...but I
did not know that glide was so specifically aimed...the Real problem was
that I couldn't get the X server configured at all. Right now I am
stuck with 16 bit color...(using generic VESA in Xconfigurator, which is
not as good as what I could get with the XFree86 version that came with
RH7.3!
{I installed the 4.3 version as no other version even lists the SiS300
chip...and it looks like 4.3 doesn't really support it either...)
Thanks for info on the .so (so's I am not a gonna worry (esp since no
system complaints!)
;)
mgolter
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Mike A. Harris wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Melissa Golter wrote:
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 14:57:34 -0600 (CST)
From: Melissa Golter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Subject: RE: Sis300 support in XFree86 version 4.3.0
If I am reading the filename correctly, that file is 26Mb -- but if that
is OK to
send to you, will do...in the meantime, I put it in
ftp.evl.uic.edu/pub/INcoming/mgolter/xfree/
btw, ver 4.3.0 has libglide3.so but not the 2x.so nec to configure the
system correctly. I am supposing I can find the libglide2x.so somewhere
(note: the previous version of XFree86 -- the one that came with RH7.3,
did not include it either it seems (a *whereis* did not yield a result
from the saved XFree version directory either). ;P
Just so you don't end up wasting your time
Glide is strictly a 3Dfx low level 3D video driver library which
talks directly to 3Dfx Voodoo and Banshee video hardware.
Glide 2 is for Voodoo Graphics I/II hardware, and Glide3 is for
Voodoo 3/4/5 and Banshee hardware.
Glide does not work on any other video hardware, and is totally
useless unless you have 3Dfx video hardware, in which case it
provides the layer between DRI and the 3Dfx video card for 3D
acceleration.
In short: You've got an SiS video card, and Glide is meaningless
as far as your system is concerned.
--
Mike A. Harris
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