Re: [XFree86] control-alt-backspace is not available to applications
This is not an XFree86 bug. Ctl-Alt-BackSpace has killed the server as far back as I can remember. Certainly before 2.0, and likely before emacs. Fix emacs. Are you sure? http://www.multicians.org/mepap.html#seciii http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-12/xfree86_01.html If you are trying to point out that emacs is older than XFree you are obviously right. Marc's comment, however, was the Ctl-Alt-BackSpace was used in XFree before it was used in Emacs. Whether or not this is true I do not know. What surprises me is that if the server isn't using Ctl-Alt-BackSpace (via DontZap) then is there some reason it should not pass that on to the application? (emacs in this case). -Don yes, is there? i just updated to xfree 4.3 as part of a rh9 install and was faced with this problem. this function in emacs is very useful! i'm guessing the introduction of the Terminate_Server event is the culprit... perhaps what would be more convenient would be is if XF86Config could specify the Zap sequence to use. It would be great if XF86Config would support that. i desired it for years! ... been using DontZap because every now and then I would be editing a file in emacs and accidentally *ZAP*! lose my work. I would like to keep a Zap sequence around, just on a different set of keys, something you're really not likely to hit by mistake, like on the SGI boxes (IIRC it was something like Shift/Alt/F1/Keypad+ or something wacky like that). Marc Aurele La France wrote: Furthermore, XFree86 isn't the only X server C-A-BS kills. IBM's on AIX dies too. regardless, it's still a pretty bad choice for a default Zap sequence. cheers, ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] control-alt-backspace is not available to applications
On 23 Jan 2003, Sam Steingold wrote: control-alt-backspace (C-M-BS) is an important key combination in Emacs, usually bound to backwards-kill-sexp. in XFree86-4.2.99.3 (as comes with Red Hat beta phoebe), it is not available to Emacs, see bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=81947 usually, C-M-BS kills the X server, so you need to enable the DontZap option in /etc/X11/XF86Config. xev(1) reports C-M-BS as KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 65848720, (154,149), root:(162,184), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 65848733, (154,149), root:(162,184), state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyRelease event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 65849308, (154,149), root:(162,184), state 0xc, keycode 22 (keysym 0xfed5, Terminate_Server), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: some files in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ mention Terminate_Server. fortunately, a simple $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' fixes the problem, but this is an extremely inconvenient default. This is not an XFree86 bug. Ctl-Alt-BackSpace has killed the server as far back as I can remember. Certainly before 2.0, and likely before emacs. Fix emacs. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] control-alt-backspace is not available to applications
Marc Aurele La France wrote: On 23 Jan 2003, Sam Steingold wrote: control-alt-backspace (C-M-BS) is an important key combination in Emacs, usually bound to backwards-kill-sexp. in XFree86-4.2.99.3 (as comes with Red Hat beta phoebe), it is not available to Emacs, see bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=81947 usually, C-M-BS kills the X server, so you need to enable the DontZap option in /etc/X11/XF86Config. xev(1) reports C-M-BS as KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 65848720, (154,149), root:(162,184), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 65848733, (154,149), root:(162,184), state 0x4, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: KeyRelease event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0x2c1, root 0x3f, subw 0x0, time 65849308, (154,149), root:(162,184), state 0xc, keycode 22 (keysym 0xfed5, Terminate_Server), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: some files in /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/ mention Terminate_Server. fortunately, a simple $ xmodmap -e 'keycode 22 = BackSpace' fixes the problem, but this is an extremely inconvenient default. This is not an XFree86 bug. Ctl-Alt-BackSpace has killed the server as far back as I can remember. Certainly before 2.0, and likely before emacs. Fix emacs. Are you sure? http://www.multicians.org/mepap.html#seciii http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-12/xfree86_01.html Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86 -- Bob Marcan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Aster^H^H...HermesPlus^H^H^H...STtel:+386 (1) 5894-329 Nade Ovcakove 1 fax:+386 (1) 5894-201 1000 Ljubljana, Sloveniahttp://www.aster.si ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] control-alt-backspace is not available to applications
This is not an XFree86 bug. Ctl-Alt-BackSpace has killed the server as far back as I can remember. Certainly before 2.0, and likely before emacs. Fix emacs. Are you sure? http://www.multicians.org/mepap.html#seciii http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-12/xfree86_01.html If you are trying to point out that emacs is older than XFree you are obviously right. Marc's comment, however, was the Ctl-Alt-BackSpace was used in XFree before it was used in Emacs. Whether or not this is true I do not know. What surprises me is that if the server isn't using Ctl-Alt-BackSpace (via DontZap) then is there some reason it should not pass that on to the application? (emacs in this case). -Don ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] control-alt-backspace is not available to applications
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Don wrote: This is not an XFree86 bug. Ctl-Alt-BackSpace has killed the server as far back as I can remember. Certainly before 2.0, and likely before emacs. Fix emacs. Are you sure? http://www.multicians.org/mepap.html#seciii http://www.linux-mag.com/2001-12/xfree86_01.html If you are trying to point out that emacs is older than XFree you are obviously right. Marc's comment, however, was the Ctl-Alt-BackSpace was used in XFree before it was used in Emacs. Whether or not this is true I do not know. Well, you can read whatever you want into what I said, but I was actually referring to GNU Emacs. Furthermore, XFree86 isn't the only X server C-A-BS kills. IBM's on AIX dies too. What surprises me is that if the server isn't using Ctl-Alt-BackSpace (via DontZap) then is there some reason it should not pass that on to the application? (emacs in this case). Likely because nobody's submitted a patch to do so. Marc. +--+---+ | Marc Aurele La France | work: 1-780-492-9310 | | Computing and Network Services | fax:1-780-492-1729 | | 352 General Services Building | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | University of Alberta +---+ | Edmonton, Alberta | | | T6G 2H1 | Standard disclaimers apply| | CANADA | | +--+---+ XFree86 Core Team member. ATI driver and X server internals. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
