Re: [Xpert]Using Radeon with two heads?
I had the same problem, and eventually bypassed it. The Crt_Screen option is supposed to turn off the internal screen, but I found that every time X started up or switched modes, it turned on the internal flat screen. Finally, I started using dual-head mode, which allowed me to use different refresh rates, resolutions, and even images simultaneously on the internal and external monitors. I also now use Xinerama, which allows me to locate the two monitors side-by-side, and move windows between them by dragging them with the mouse. If you are interested, I could send you my XFree86Config. dbr On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 01:12, Leonard Sitongia wrote: Hello, I'm running XFree86 4.2 on Linux RH 7.2 on a Dell Inspiron 4100 with a 1400x1050 LCD display and an external monitor. This has the ATI Radeon Mobility LY (AGP) hardware. I'm trying to find documentation specific to the radeon driver, because the document for the ati driver in XF 4.2 says that the radeon is not supported in the ati driver, and to see the documentation provided with it's driver. I've searched with Google, and I can't find the documentation. I'm trying to use crt_screen to drive just the external monitor, i.e., turn off the LCD. For example, I configure XF86Config-4 for 1280x1024, and put Option crt_screen into the Device and/or Screen section, boot the laptop with the external screen plugged in with the Alt-F8 (BIOS?) switched so that both the LCD and CRT are on, but when I startx, both the LCD and CRT stay on. I was expecting the LCD to turn off. I want to drive the external monitor at a higher res (1600x1200) than the LCD supports, so I want to turn the LCD off. Since crt_screen doesn't do this, I assumed that there was another option for the radeon driver, so I'm looking for the document for the driver to see. TIA! -- ==Leonard E. Sitongia Visualization and Enabling Technologies / Scientific Computing Division National Center for Atmospheric Research P.O. Box 3000 Boulder CO 80307 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED]voice: (303)497-2454 fax: (303)497-1239 ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE and SGI 1600sw with Multilink
DPMS may not be implemented for flat panels, but something seems to be. I use a laptop with an ATI Radeon Mobility graphics adapter, with the internal flat panel and an external monitor set up to run simultaneously with Xinerama. I noticed in the last day or two that when the external monitor went into power-savin mode, within seconds, the internal flat panel also went blank and its backlight shut off. dbr On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 02:45, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Stuart Anderson wrote: On 21 Dec 2001, Michel [ISO-8859-1] Dänzer wrote: On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 16:09, Nate Pearlstein wrote: 1. DPMS doesn't work. I looked in the source and it seems that DPMS only gets turned on if connected to a CRT. Why shouldn't this work for a flatpanel? Why should it? ;) I think DPMS was conceived for CRTs so I wouldn't expect it to apply to flat panels naturally. I had notice the same thing int he ATI driver. On my laptop, Windows can completely shutdown the LCD screen, but under X, it doesn't. It seems perfectly reasonable for DPMS to also apply to LCDs, though the actual energy savings might be less. I think the corresponding code is simply not implemented. Because the LCD (and backlight) on my Rage Mobility notebook is turned off when I use external monitor. So X knows how to turn it off, just does not do it for DPMS. Vladimir Dergachev Stuart Stuart R. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Metro Link Incorporated South Carolina Office 5807 North Andrews Way 129 Secret Cove Drive Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33309 Lexington, SC 29072 voice: 954.660.2500 voice: 803.951.3630 http://www.metrolink.com/XFree86 Core Team ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Radeon Mobility and Dual-Head Support?
The screens are running at different resolutions. The internal flat panel is running at its native resolution of 1400x1050, and the external monitor is running at 1024x768 (the highest resolution it supports with a reasonable refresh rate). I grabbed the screen (actually the window) while the movie was playing on the external monitor. The screengrab was a black screen with the window decorations. When I moved that display over the colorful rectangle, I noticed two things. First, the colorful rectangle was the same size as the inside of the window - not terribly surprising. Second, as I slide the image over the rectangle, the rectangle apparently distorted the image slightly. Once it was in place, the rectangle look as it had without the blank image there. However, as the title bar was sliding across the rectangle, there was an effect similar to a kaleidoscope - multiple copies of something resembling the text moved across the screen. Does this help? Is this what you were looking for? dbr On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 23:11, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On 9 Apr 2002, David B. Ritch wrote: I tried watching the movie xine_about.avi using xine 0.98. On screen 0, the builtin flat panel display, it worked fine. On screen 1, the external monitor, it did not. Instead, the xine screen on the external monitor went black. At approximately the same location on screen 0 as the xine screen on screen 1, a rather colorful rectangle appeared. It was made up of pink lines and stuff that looked like static. When I stopped the movie, the static stopped moving. However, the pink box remained until I exited xine. Thanks :)) Are the screens running at the same resolution ? Can you try this: grab the xine screen (while displaying movie) with gimp (or anything that can take a snapshot). You should get a black or almost black image. Now try displaying that image on the first screen in the same place as the colourful rectangle.. Let me know what happens. thanks ! Vladimir Dergachev dbr On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 15:26, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On 8 Apr 2002, David B. Ritch wrote: Never mind! I got it working. FYI - here's my XF86Config file. Great :) Could you report on how well Xv works on both screens ? Thanks ! Vladimir Dergachev dbr ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Xpert]Radeon Mobility and Dual-Head Support?
I tried watching the movie xine_about.avi using xine 0.98. On screen 0, the builtin flat panel display, it worked fine. On screen 1, the external monitor, it did not. Instead, the xine screen on the external monitor went black. At approximately the same location on screen 0 as the xine screen on screen 1, a rather colorful rectangle appeared. It was made up of pink lines and stuff that looked like static. When I stopped the movie, the static stopped moving. However, the pink box remained until I exited xine. dbr On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 15:26, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On 8 Apr 2002, David B. Ritch wrote: Never mind! I got it working. FYI - here's my XF86Config file. Great :) Could you report on how well Xv works on both screens ? Thanks ! Vladimir Dergachev dbr ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Xpert]Radeon Mobility and Dual-Head Support?
: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 GetModeLine - scrn: 0 clock: 108000 GetModeLine - hdsp: 1400 hbeg: 0 hend: 0 httl: 0 vdsp: 1050 vbeg: 0 vend: 0 vttl: 0 flags: 0 --- On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 11:51, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 17:08, David B. Ritch wrote: Does XFree86 4.2 support dual-head use on a Radeon Mobility M6 LY? Yes. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Radeon Mobility and Dual-Head Support?
SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes1024x768@75Hz(VESA) EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorInternal DefaultDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes1400x1050 EndSubSection EndSection On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 12:56, David B. Ritch wrote: Great! Then maybe someone can help me with this. Whenever both the internal and external displays are active on my system under Xfree86, they show the same image. How do I get them to show different images (and have different resolutions and refresh rates)? -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Radeon Mobility and Dual-Head Support?
I'll try, but I don't know the X extensions very well. Can you give me some fairly common appas that use Xv? Meanwhile, there is another critical problem with Xinerama on my system. Several of the applications that I use regularly hang when Xinerama is enabled, including evolution and galeon. I have seen some suggestions on the web that there is a problem with interaction between multithreaded Gtk+ apps and Xinerama, but most of those references were rather old. Is there currently a problem with this? Is there a known workaround? Thanks! David On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 15:26, Vladimir Dergachev wrote: On 8 Apr 2002, David B. Ritch wrote: Never mind! I got it working. FYI - here's my XF86Config file. Great :) Could you report on how well Xv works on both screens ? Thanks ! Vladimir Dergachev dbr ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
Re: [Xpert]Radeon Mobility and Dual-Head Support?
The multithreaded apps seems to have been a wild goose chase. It was the font server. If I configure X to use font directories instead of xfs, my applications don't hang. Is there a known problem with xfs and Xinerama? And a workaround (or fix)? Thanks, David On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 18:36, David B. Ritch wrote: Meanwhile, there is another critical problem with Xinerama on my system. Several of the applications that I use regularly hang when Xinerama is enabled, including evolution and galeon. I have seen some suggestions on the web that there is a problem with interaction between multithreaded Gtk+ apps and Xinerama, but most of those references were rather old. Is there currently a problem with this? Is there a known workaround? -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
[Xpert]Where to ask question on XFree86 with Radeon Mobility
I posted the following question about a week and a half ago. Due to the response (none) I suspect I'm asking in the wrong place. Could someone direct me to a more appropriate place to ask questions about the Radeon driver for the Radeon Mobility graphics adapters? Thanks, dbr On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 13:33, David B. Ritch wrote: I'm having trouble getting X to run on an external monitor and not the internal LCD of my Dell Inspiron 4100 laptop. I'm running XFree86 4.2, and I'm using the radeon driver for the Radeon Mobility M6 LY rev 0 graphics adaptor under RedHat 7.2 with the 2.4.28 kernel. I've seen the same behavior with the A03 BIOS that shipped with the system and the A06 that was just released. Here is the issue. Even though I've specified 'Option CrtScreen' in the Device section of /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, whenever I start up the X server with the laptop in its docking station, it starts on both the built-in LCD and the external monitor. In order to turn off the internal monitor, I need to strike the Fn-CRT/LCD keys about 3 times (this toggles between the various settings of internal vs. external monitor). I need to turn off the internal LCD display, because otherwise I'm limited to a 60Hz refresh rate. In normal docked use, I don't open the laptop (I can't - there is a monitor stand over it), so I can't strike the Fn keys. Any ideas? Thank! dbr -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. ___ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert -- David B. Ritch High Performance Technologies, Inc. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
