Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-25 Thread Eli Cohen
we've had discussions like this before. I do agree that having a more "original" Plan 9 option like 9legacy is a good idea. in terms of what that actually means doing, a lot of the obvious effort would be to go into turning stuff from 9front into patches for 9legacy. I started to do this to make a

Re: [9fans] building blocks speaking 9p

2022-01-28 Thread Eli Cohen
I also started a paper about the very small 9P library I used on MCUs, I was hoping to present this at IWP9 before we all ended up in the pandemic Biff timeline https://echoline.org/NinePea.pdf this paper is still not that polished yet On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, 1:28 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > Thanks!

Re: [9fans] building blocks speaking 9p

2022-01-28 Thread Eli Cohen
-graphics/ > > T > > On 1/28/2022 at 3:08 PM, "Eli Cohen" wrote: > > I started working on a project with an ESP32 board (with a toolchain for > linux) to make a /net/etherESP32 for wifi with 9P right on the little > board. I got as far as realizing how differe

Re: [9fans] building blocks speaking 9p

2022-01-28 Thread Eli Cohen
I started working on a project with an ESP32 board (with a toolchain for linux) to make a /net/etherESP32 for wifi with 9P right on the little board. I got as far as realizing how different 802.11 and 802.3 are... the unfinished code is at https://github.com/echoline/etherESP32 it would be cool

Re: Re[2]: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

2022-01-24 Thread Eli Cohen
maybe a more recent book could be a community effort at least a bit, I would be interested in contributing to such a project. as for nemo... I have no idea who he is really, but that book is pretty good, although very specific to the setup in his lab On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, 10:34 AM Alexandr Babic

Re: [9fans] Boot CD chokes

2021-12-28 Thread Eli Cohen
yes, but it also has very good networking capabilities On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 10:05 AM Duke Normandin wrote: > > On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56:19 -0500 > "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote: > > > Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to > > emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log

Re: [9fans] Boot CD chokes

2021-12-28 Thread Eli Cohen
if you're not accustomed to plan 9 I want to be the first to reiterate to be very careful with the mount command. on plan 9 mount mounts 9p servers, not disks. mounting a disk file will write 9p to the file (the disk) that's a common mistake that people have made tools to recover from, but it can

[9fans] dp9ik port

2021-09-29 Thread Eli Cohen
hello all, I wanted to check back in about the continuing saga to port a dp9ik patch upstream. where I believe we left off in that discussion, there was advice to make a roadmap, involving some kinds of software development techniques I don't understand at all, to be completely honest... I have

Re: [9fans] Getting to my dos USB drive on plan9 VMWARE (Windows 10)

2021-09-13 Thread Eli Cohen
even aside from plan 9, I am not sure windows 10 supports that protocol in that way. that was why people said to just use unix, until linux, then we couldn't support our own load either... then everyone burst into choreographed song and dance. it is so weird... I don't know any of these people

Re: [9fans] Drawterm GPU (was: Software philosophy)

2021-09-01 Thread Eli Cohen
hey Kenji, when I was putting the apk on my phone I used the "adb" tool. I don't exactly remember the process... the phone has to be paired with the computer running adb either over a USB cable or over wifi, then the apk can be installed with adb. I do recall it being a bit difficult to get it

Re: [9fans] Drawterm GPU (was: Software philosophy)

2021-08-22 Thread Eli Cohen
I wasn't aware of open-source cards only for ML/NN... that's interesting. I was just poking through the # drivers... as I recalled there was something specifically for using the FPU, but now I can't figure that out... I'm not sure where I saw that or thought that... that was more what I was

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-21 Thread Eli Cohen
hey Kenji, deep learning is another interest of mine too. hardware support is a big deal for that... some kind of support for GPUs would be nice. people have discussed that for years... hardware drivers are difficult and important to do correctly! python is used a lot for some of the available

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-19 Thread Eli Cohen
some of it for me is just nostalgia. there was always someone talking about "the world these days" though, I have to admit. ignorance sucks too but noticing anything is excruciatingly painful! I also had a vested interest in submitting patches "upstream" to see what I could learn from trying to do

Re: [9fans] Software philosophy

2021-08-18 Thread Eli Cohen
what is all the friction actually about here?? the most important philosophical question always ends up the same, how can we figure out a good formula for not being jerks? I have ended up using 9front more and more, obviously. 9front was started specifically to address the fact that Plan 9 from

Re: [9fans] OAuth2 in factotum

2021-08-17 Thread Eli Cohen
"Why am I so affected by her death? The deaths of countless others have never elicited such an emotional response in me." - Data "If we knew the answer to that... human history might be a lot less bloody." - Riker On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 9:22 PM wrote: > > Quoth Lucio De Re : > > Does it work? >

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

2021-03-19 Thread Eli Cohen
hey everyone, first of all this has turned out to be somewhat difficult! I have also been delayed from looking at it very much by other things going on. all I have done so far is look a bit at tlsclient. it seemed like once that supports dp9ik the rest is just simple rc scripts. another note...

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

2021-02-10 Thread Eli Cohen
well... I have a few questions already. I have heard that thorough scrutiny of dp9ik would be appreciated as Ori said, and hasn't really been done yet... beyond my capabilities, though. I have explored dp9ik a little bit, another document about it is this writeup:

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

2021-02-09 Thread Eli Cohen
On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:39 PM Lucio De Re wrote: > > On 2/10/21, Eli Cohen wrote: > > I noticed the patches from 9front to 9legacy are not well-maintained. I'm > > trying to figure out if this would be an appreciated exercise from someone > > (me) who doesn't know all t

[9fans] patches from 9front

2021-02-09 Thread Eli Cohen
I noticed the patches from 9front to 9legacy are not well-maintained. I'm trying to figure out if this would be an appreciated exercise from someone (me) who doesn't know all that much and would learn from doing it, and if so, what are priorities for things to port back as patches for 9legacy

Re: [9fans] cold boot installation of Plan 9 on a eeepc 701 :(

2013-02-23 Thread Eli Cohen
I tried this a while back before my eee 701, uh, got mostly dismantled. I had to edit a file for the southbridge, if i recall correctly, to be detected. looks like maybe you got past that too? the network chipset is atl2, no driver for it, btw... i'd be interested to hear more about this

Re: [9fans] p9p srv files on plan 9

2012-09-15 Thread Eli Cohen
Plan9 has Unix socket support in /net right? You'd have to convert the socket to a file in /srv with srv(4) and mount that. On Sep 15, 2012 11:39 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: i'm certain i've seen this, but i can't reproduce it: is there a method for getting the srv files created by

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Eli Cohen
https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work) On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue Jul 17 14:44:28 EDT 2012, a...@9srv.net wrote: you don't want plan 9 on an 8 bit machine. Which, of course, doesn't say anything about wanting styx/9p on

Re: [9fans] apparently nice summary of small linux pcs

2012-07-17 Thread Eli Cohen
Arduino uses C++. I guess it could be a .c file, though. On Jul 17, 2012 12:14 PM, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote: why does this have a .cpp file? On 7/17/12, Eli Cohen echol...@gmail.com wrote: https://github.com/echoline/NinePea too (it needs work) On Jul 17, 2012 11:52 AM, erik quanstrom

[9fans] discrepency between plan9 and ixpc

2012-01-21 Thread Eli Cohen
hello everyone, i have been working on a 9P arduino library. it works now with ixpc from libixp, modified slightly to communicate over the serial port: ixpc ls / arductl ardudata however, i am getting this on plan9: % echo b115200 /dev/eiaU0/eiaUctl % mount -ncC /dev/eiaU0/eiaU /n/anything %

Re: [9fans] discrepency between plan9 and ixpc

2012-01-21 Thread Eli Cohen
On Jan 21, 2012 2:50 PM, Anthony Martin al...@pbrane.org wrote: Eli Cohen echol...@gmail.com once said: % echo b115200 /dev/eiaU0/eiaUctl % mount -ncC /dev/eiaU0/eiaU /n/anything % ls /n/anything anything the output of ls is just whatever directory i mount it in, though accessing

[9fans] happy holidays!

2011-11-28 Thread Eli Cohen
a video of plan9 blinkenlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzUe0pqfMA thanks maht, and all the rest of you!

Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9

2011-07-02 Thread Eli Cohen
I have used gentoo extensively and plan9 for a few years now as well, and this concept of namespaces for processes is a confusing but interesting concept. maybe you could use grsec to limit the access to gentoo's file system at a per-process level. This would be somewhat similar to what plan9