Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-12 Thread Peter Hull
On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 11:05, Anthony Martin wrote: > > The IWP9 paper titled "centre, left and right" looks like > a complete troll. Was it generated by an LLM? I don't always understand things written about plan9 but this seemed even to me to be a bit off. However the author is listed as being

Re: [9fans] Re: How do I run plan9 in virtualbox?

2023-08-17 Thread Peter Hull
On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 03:18, Don Bailey wrote: > > forgot to respond to this but fwiw, running plan9 on virtualbox seems to work > peachy. Hiro what was the bug(s) you were running into before? I've never ran > into an issue with it, but I've only used vbox on Linux; maybe it's a > host/CPU

Re: [9fans] goodbye cruel world

2018-01-10 Thread Peter Hull
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Jules Merit wrote: I suppose it's one of those "If you have to ask..." things but can anyone explain (any of) Jules Merit's posts for me? Cheers, Pete

Re: [9fans] Killing another user's process

2017-07-25 Thread Peter Hull
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 10:14 Charles Forsyth wrote: > > lower case kill restricts the list to processes of the invoking user > initial cap Kill doesn't do that. Apologies both - didn't read Skip's answer properly. I saw kill where I should have seen Kill. > for lower

Re: [9fans] Killing another user's process

2017-07-25 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 20:02 Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you're the host owner, you can: > > Kill tftpd | rc > > (See rc scripts kill and Kill) > > > On Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 9:41 AM Peter Hull <peterhul...@gmail.com> wrote: >

[9fans] Killing another user's process

2017-07-24 Thread Peter Hull
Is it possible to kill another user's process in plan9? Specifically I've been messing about with tftpd, which sets itself up as user 'none' - if I want to stop the tftp server, how do I do that? Thanks, Pete

Re: [9fans] 9Front in Virtualbox with Internet and Host Drawterm Access

2017-07-11 Thread Peter Hull
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 at 05:48 Sean Hinchee wrote: > Network -> Adapter 1 > Attached to: Host-only Adapter > Name: VirtualBox Host-Only Ethernet Adapter > -> Advanced > Adapter Type: Intel PRO/1000 MT Server > > Network -> Adapter 2 > Attached to: NAT > -> Advanced > Adapter

Re: [9fans] DNS

2017-03-31 Thread Peter Hull
Doesn’t work quite right for me. It resolves a few steps and gets to an IP address but it never prints out the “answer” between - lines. If I do it for www.google.com then it does. Also it prints some console messages - "no rr from dblookup; crapped out" Pete

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-08-23 Thread Peter Hull
On 23/08/16 13:39, Adriano Verardo wrote: Yes, but not in June/July and all around the world. Sent just to see if this message reaches the list. Your message definitely has reached the list ... whether it gets back to you is another matter! I see from the archive (http://marc.info/?l=9fans)

Re: [9fans] Virtual Box 5.1 and Plan 9

2016-07-28 Thread Peter Hull
Thanks, both. I use VB because it works well for what I need it for (running Linux on Win and Mac) and for me it works better than qemu in that respect. I'd rather stick to one virtualisation solution if possible. I've narrowed the problem down to the emulated ethernet card - the Intel MT

[9fans] Virtual Box 5.1 and Plan 9

2016-07-27 Thread Peter Hull
I've been using plan 9 on Virtual Box 5.0.x for a while and it's been running fine. However the latest update to 5.1 seems not to work. I want to try and sort this out but I need a bit of help on figuring out what's going during boot. On both Labs and 9front the booting just hangs somewhere

Re: [9fans] bug in exportfs

2015-12-17 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:31 PM, arisawa wrote: > It seems cpu command is buggy in -P option. > the sources of the problem is in command option -P of exportfs. I had a look at the manpage for exportfs(4), it says: "For a file to be exported, all lines with a prefix +

Re: [9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

2014-11-21 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Peter Hull peterhul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: I've been using this document : http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/expanding_your_grid/index.html Not had the AHA! moment promised

[9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

2014-11-19 Thread Peter Hull
I've had some success setting up and using plan9 standalone and I have moved on to trying a networked configuration. Following the instructions I have set up a combined cpu/auth server, and a terminal booting with PXE. When I boot my terminal it asks for my username (no password) and starts

Re: [9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

2014-11-19 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: is your file server in allow mode? or are you really booting a cpu server with nvram? The latter (I think) - the same system is the cpu, auth and file server. I've got bootfile=ether0!/386/9pcf nobootprompt=tcp in the

Re: [9fans] plan9 legacy tcs -t unicode sucks last char

2014-09-22 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ingo Krabbe ikrabbe@gmail.com wrote: I will post a fix tomorrow noone else feels guilty. I can't tell if you already know the answer and are teasing us - but, I will wade in... I think the problem is in src/cmd/tcs/tcs.c, comparing unicode_out and

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

2014-08-28 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com wrote: I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time goes by. Hi David, This is going to be a tremendously useful resource! I've not read it all yet but: 1. Is there a reason for using Debian sid instead of current

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

2014-08-28 Thread Peter Hull
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com wrote: I've updated the vp9cb.css and the tar to use maximum white for the headers. Let me know if they're too bright. Well, I like it. Thanks, Pete

Re: [9fans] I want manual of OS

2014-07-31 Thread Peter Hull
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Joseph Stewart joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote: Would a service like http://www.lulu.com/ work for this? I don't know what their cut is That's a coincidence, when I saw Charles's email I immediately thought of Lulu and was just browsing the site when Joe's

Re: [9fans] Web Site broken

2014-07-28 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:43 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: i got a slightly different error message, and came to the same educated guess as sergey. the file server appears down or sick, but the web server is still up and kicking enough to complain about missing files, etc.

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

2014-05-22 Thread Peter Hull
Hi Shane, I just tried an installation from scratch of 9atom - downloaded the ISO from Quanstro.net, installed on VirtualBox 4.3.12 on Mavericks 10.9.3 accepting the defaults as far as possible. It all installed fine and booted fine. I've not had time to setup networking etc. but it certainly

Re: [9fans] first questions from a lurker

2014-03-11 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Others have answered what to do within plan9. On the virtualbox side you need to attach to 'bridged adapter' instead of NAT. Pick the right name (which is really the interface name on the host) -- wi-fi (airport) for

Re: [9fans] first questions from a lurker

2014-03-10 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:41 PM, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: First questions. I'm new too but I'll have a go, then someone will correct me! 0. How to see my IP address? Cat a file in /net/... somewhere? cat /net/ndb 1. How to change the hostname - just edit /rc/bin/termrc and choose

[9fans] Editing the wiki

2014-03-06 Thread Peter Hull
I mentioned this in a previous post but I will repeat here as it was buried in a load of other stuff. I tried to edit the sandbox in the wiki and wasn't able to. I ran acme /acme/wiki/guide and executed the commands in that file. I was then able to navigate the wiki in acme (and confirmed

Re: [9fans] Editing the wiki

2014-03-06 Thread Peter Hull
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:42 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: it's working for me from plan 9. i just edited /mnt/wiki/plan_9_wiki_wish_list/ OK. I was able to edit the same page (I turned your text into a hyperlink!) to the OP, did you B2 the line Local srv

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

2014-03-05 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Alexandru Gheorghe alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/04/2014 12:19 AM, Alexandru Gheorghe wrote: On 03/03/2014 10:53 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Mar 3, 2014, at 12:52, Alexandru Gheorghe alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote: should we gather some configuration

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

2014-03-05 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Alexandru Gheorghe alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, actually related to this, I encounter dhcprecv read timed out. I got those kind of errors for every type of network card apart from 'Intel PRO/1000 Server (82545EM)' Which one are you using? Pete

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-04 Thread Peter Hull
OK got it now. I was specifying the wrong network card to VirtualBox, the 'Intel PRO/1000 MT Server' works and the 'Desktop' doesn't. Now I can TFTP boot but so far can't start a graphical session. That's for the next email... Thanks, pete

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-03 Thread Peter Hull
I didn't understand any of the last 3 messages* but, I've got tftpd and dhcpd up and running; I can see the discover-offer-request-ack in /sys/log/ipboot. I see /386/9boot being transferred by tftpd. 9boot seems to load ok, on the client I see 9boot.gz... starting protected-mode loader at 0x900020

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-03 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:21 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: 9boot.gz... starting protected-mode loader at 0x900020 pxe doesn't know how to decompress. Not quite sure how that's happening, 9boot on my disk isn't a .gz file and I can't see any options to tftpd that are requesting

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-03 Thread Peter Hull
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:42 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: what is bootf in the ndb entry for the host that is supposed to pxe boot? ndb/query ether $myether bootf /386/9boot

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-03 Thread Peter Hull
9boot (I think) comprises a stub and a compressed executable; once the whole thing is loaded it decompresses the real 9boot and runs it. I do think 9boot is running OK, it seems to fail when it goes back to bootp to get its Ethernet config, hence the .T.T part of what it prints out. I'll try those

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

2014-03-03 Thread Peter Hull
It’s not as exciting as real hardware but you could always run it on a virtual machine. I’ve got it running fine on VirtualBox, with networking (internet and between VMs) Pete On 2 Mar 2014, at 22:16, Szymon Olewniczak szymon.olewnic...@rid.pl wrote: Hi, I've just registerd to this mailing

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

2014-03-03 Thread Peter Hull
On 3 Mar 2014, at 20:52, Alexandru Gheorghe alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote: should we gather some configuration steps/examples for known stable builds of vbox and post them in a wiki somewhere(?) at least people could resort to those and omit the minor releases,until a major (for which we

[9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

2014-03-02 Thread Peter Hull
Hi all, I was looking at booting via PXE (this is all just on Virtual Box VMs). I need to provide a 9pxeload in the boot process but I can't find it in my distribution and I can't understand how to build it. I looked in the source tree but 9pxeload doesn't seem to be a target in the makefile.

[9fans] Various distributions

2014-02-24 Thread Peter Hull
Sorry for this extremely basic question but I'm a bit confused about the various plan9 distributions. As I understand it, 9front is a fork of the original plan 9 from Bell Labs and 9atom consists of enhancements to plan9. All three seem to be under development, but: Are changes being pulled from

Re: [9fans] Inferno on XMOS

2014-02-16 Thread Peter Hull
It would be interesting to see Plan 9 running on the 40-node Raspberry Pi 'supercomputer'! http://likemagicappears.com/projects/raspberry-pi-cluster/ Pete On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Has anyone considered running Inferno on an XMOS system? I have a

Re: [9fans] GPLv2

2014-02-13 Thread Peter Hull
There is a big discussion on this over at Hacker News which I don’t really understand but I think the main point was that this isn’t as big a change as it seems. On the other hand, I’ve never heard of akaros. How similar is it to Plan9? Pete On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:53, Sergey Zhilkin

Re: [9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

2014-02-12 Thread Peter Hull
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:29 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: i certainly would do some debugging to see if ndb/cs is really running, and if dns is running, too. iirc, the default termrc has ipconfig commented out, so dns will not start. I'm typing ip/ipconfig and ndb/dns -r on

Re: [9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

2014-02-12 Thread Peter Hull
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Uncomment ip/ifconfig in termrc as Erik suggested or stick the four lines that I showed in termrc.local. I think there is some sequencing issue if you run them manually. Bakul, Erik, Thanks very much. Editing termrc as you

[9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

2014-02-11 Thread Peter Hull
Dear All, I am just trying to set up Plan 9 so I can have a play with it. I'm running it in VirtualBox 4.3.6 and I'm running into the DNS problem that has been reported earlier [1] ip/ipconfig seems to run fine but it assigns an address of 127.0.0.1 and DNS doesn't work. Unfortunately (as far as

Re: [9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

2014-02-11 Thread Peter Hull
Hi All, Thanks for the responses. To answer your questions Erik, here is /net/iproute. Unfortunately I moved to a different wifi network so the addresses are different to my initial post 0.0.0.0 /96 192.168.0.1 4none - 192.168.0.0 /120 192.168.0.0 4i ifc1