[9fans] Supported Notebooks

2024-01-24 Thread alex-ml
Hello everyone, I would like to know which hardware (apart from the hardware listed here: https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html) is supported by Plan 9. Is there any experience, especially with regard to other Thinkpad models? 9front even runs on the MNT Reform, would

Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks

2024-01-24 Thread Don Bailey
I used to run plan9 exclusively (main OS) between around 2004-2010 and I had a lot of luck with Compaq and Thinkpad (Lenovo). In fact, I was considering doing this again... but... instead of buying a newer laptop and worrying about chip compatibility, I actually am considering buying an older

Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks

2024-01-24 Thread David Leimbach via 9fans
Or you could just run 9front?Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 24, 2024, at 10:48 AM, alex...@posteo.de wrote: Hello everyone,I would like to know which hardware (apart from the hardware listed here: https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html) is supported by Plan 9. Is there any

Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks

2024-01-24 Thread Jacob Moody
On 1/24/24 09:47, alex...@posteo.de wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I would like to know which hardware (apart from the hardware listed here: > https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html > ) is supported > by Plan 9.

Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks

2024-01-24 Thread Michael Grunditz
I have looked at the reform code and I like how it is done. I think that it would be easy to use for porting 9legacy or in fact any system. But it is more work than a recompile. Michael > 24 jan. 2024 kl. 20:28 skrev Jacob Moody : > > On 1/24/24 09:47, alex...@posteo.de wrote: >> Hello

Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks

2024-01-24 Thread Jacob Moody
On 1/24/24 14:28, Michael Grunditz wrote: > I have looked at the reform code and I like how it is done. I think that it > would be easy to use for porting 9legacy or in fact any system. But it is > more work than a recompile. > > Michael It is certainly not drag and drop. Getting the arm64

Re: [9fans] Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community.

2024-01-24 Thread Lucas Francesco
Yeah, can we keep chatgpt generated wall of texts outside of the 9fans mailing list ? On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 20:58, wrote: > > Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm: > > [redacted for sanity] > > This is AI-generated spam, right? :P > > - Noam Preil > --

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Don A. Bailey
Tbf I took it as genuine. One reason I responded with no is that Rob noted that further 9 releases should not be a release at all, but should be fluid updates through the network. I think if 9 lives on it should be that was, as intended. I am not a fan of the weird 9front split from the

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Jacob Moody
On 1/24/24 19:53, Don A. Bailey wrote: > Tbf I took it as genuine. > > One reason I responded with no is that Rob noted that further 9 releases > should not be a release at all, but should be fluid updates through the > network. I think if 9 lives on it should be that was, as intended. I

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Noam Preil
It might help to believe that if you wrote actual ideas about what should be done. - Noam Preil -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T42f11e0265bcfa18-M42002f4830a2e854bd1548f5 Delivery options:

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread vic . thacker
To clarify, my message represented a genuine exploration of the idea of envisioning a new release. --vic On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, at 10:01, Don Bailey wrote: > Breh. No. > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:45 PM wrote: > >> Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly >>

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 08:53:30PM -0500, Don A. Bailey wrote: > Tbf I took it as genuine. > > One reason I responded with no is that Rob noted that further 9 releases > should not be a release at all, but should be fluid updates through the > network. I think if 9 lives on it should be that

[9fans] Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community.

2024-01-24 Thread noam
Quoth vic.thac...@fastmail.fm: > [redacted for sanity] This is AI-generated spam, right? :P - Noam Preil -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T42f11e0265bcfa18-Mfbfde21dd14cb18b95481013 Delivery options:

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Don Bailey
Breh. No. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:45 PM wrote: > Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly > aware of the unique position this operating system holds in the world of > distributed computing. Its influence on modern computing paradigms is > undeniable. In the

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Alex Musolino
> One reason I responded with no is that Rob noted that further 9 > releases should not be a release at all, but should be fluid updates > through the network. I think if 9 lives on it should be that was, > as intended. I agree. Maybe we could use some sort of distributed source control system.

Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread vic . thacker
Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly aware of the unique position this operating system holds in the world of distributed computing. Its influence on modern computing paradigms is undeniable. In the spirit of continuing this legacy, the prospect of Plan 9

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Noam Preil
That seems like a lot of work, though; surely, we can all just share a rootfs over 9p!! -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T42f11e0265bcfa18-M599b7f6fddada07bc414d828 Delivery options:

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Don A. Bailey
I use it. It’s also my advice. It wasn’t “advice” from Rob, it was a design choice. There’s more value in that than “advice”. Not interested in your theoretical discussions or trolling. Thanks. D > On Jan 24, 2024, at 10:44 PM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Don Bailey
I've been posting on 9fans for 20 years, hacking the kernel as long, and porting it to various chips and SoCs for as long. I don't have to prove anything to you. On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:50 PM Noam Preil wrote: > It might help to believe that if you wrote actual ideas about what > should be

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Noam Preil
I wasn't talking to you :P That was a response to the post that looked AI-generated. I sincerely apologize if I accidentally responded to your post instead, but I don't think I did -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread vic . thacker
Thank you for your valuable insight. I appreciate being corrected when wrong. The purpose of my query regarding the development of a vision for Plan 9 is to deeply understand the collective aspirations and goals of our community. I firmly believe that aligning our collective efforts with a

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Lucio De Re
On 1/25/24, Noam Preil wrote: > I wasn't talking to you :P > > That was a response to the post that looked AI-generated. I sincerely > apologize if I accidentally responded to your post instead, but I don't > think I did > If you find it difficult to quote at least the sender of the message you

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:49:33PM -0500, Don A. Bailey wrote: > I use it. It’s also my advice. It wasn’t “advice” from Rob, it was a design > choice. There’s more value in that than “advice”. It's a design choice nobody can implement, because it presumes that the starting point is correct

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-24 Thread Kurt H Maier via 9fans
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 06:17:39AM +0900, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote: > However, it is challenging for me to engage effectively in a community > when there's no unified vision to align with. We all like Plan 9. Identify the people who like the same things about Plan 9 that you like about Plan