Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Jack Campin
When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) Two questions arise - is this a meaningful division? - if

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Bernard Hill
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arent Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) Two

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Phil Taylor
Arent Storm wrote: When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) Two questions arise - is this a meaningful division?

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Jon Freeman
From: Arent Storm [EMAIL PROTECTED] When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) Two questions arise - is this

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Tom Keays
Arent Storm wrote: When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) It is also reasonable to assume that many (most?) of

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Arent Storm
When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd language) Two questions arise - is this a meaningful division? - if so,

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Jon Freeman
From: Jack Campin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The third seems a wild overestimate - surely the only program that does interchange to any other general-purpose score format in a meaningful way is Bryan's Noteworthy convertor? I think you could at least add Harmony (and possibly Melody) Assistant to that

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:29:17AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote: When trying to fit abcusers in a few groups having [1] abc-sightreaders (without much need for software) [2] abc-collectors [3] abc-software-only-users (1st language) [4] abc-as- interchange-file-format-users (2nd

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Which reminded me of abc2ly. I looked at that once and Richard found it wouldn't deal with large amounts of my abc Why not? If it's the one tune per run limitation, abcselect will deal with that for you. Richard ...

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Arent Storm
From: Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience snap I'm not sure if the distinction between abc-only software and converters-to-other-formats is meaningful - after all, midi, ps, png, whatever

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 10:07:39AM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard Which reminded me of abc2ly. I looked at that once and Richard found it wouldn't deal with large amounts of my abc Why not? If it's the one tune per run

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard No, it wasn't that, just the problem of variant Richard dialects. The last time I tried it (a couple of days ago, Richard after the mention in uc.o.l reminded me of it) I hit a Richard tune I'd just typed up which

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 12:30:10PM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard No, it wasn't that, just the problem of variant Richard dialects. ... I'm really out of touch with abcm2ps development ... Richard To be fair, I've

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you send me that file? I thought I had that fixed Richard You probably have - it's just the same old much-argued missing Richard start-repeat at the beginning of the opening bar. Some ABC apps Richard complain, as

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread I. Oppenheim
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard So it's a circularity problem - outofdate abc2ly doesn't Richard do what I'm wanting so I hadn't clocked it as important When I recently did a apt-get install lilypond, I assumed it would download the latest stable version, as it does

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:17:22PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard So it's a circularity problem - outofdate abc2ly doesn't Richard do what I'm wanting so I hadn't clocked it as important When I recently did a apt-get install lilypond,

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread I. Oppenheim
to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then apt-get update apt-get upgrade will take you to lilypond 1.6.10. I've just done this. Same for me. thanks! Groeten, Irwin Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~* Chazzanut Online: http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/ To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 07:42:48PM +0100, Richard Robinson wrote: to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then apt-get update apt-get upgrade will take you to lilypond 1.6.10. I've just done this. Whereupon, yes, that missing-repeat thing is indeed fixed. I notice it prints without title or other

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:45:47PM +0200, I. Oppenheim wrote: to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then apt-get update apt-get upgrade will take you to lilypond 1.6.10. I've just done this. Same for me. thanks! ! that's a fast connection you've got there :) -- Richard Robinson The whole plan

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard I notice it prints without title or other text. You must be using lilypond-book? If you use the standard ly2dvi, it prints the Title and Composer. Richard I'm sure this is configurable, I wonder where ... There's a lot

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Laura Conrad
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irwin When I tried one my tunes, I got this output: Irwin Irwin abc2ly from LilyPond 1.6.10 Irwin Parsing `shnei.abc'... Irwin Line ... shnei.abc: 21: Huh? Don't understand Irwin G|G2G2A4|(FEF) D (A2G)

Re: [abcusers] expected abc audience

2003-07-22 Thread Richard Robinson
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 03:02:32PM -0400, Laura Conrad wrote: Richard == Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard I notice it prints without title or other text. You must be using lilypond-book? If you use the standard ly2dvi, it prints the Title and Composer. Ah, thanks,