To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Hey Rocky,
Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. Most people on the list won't
have a clue as to what I'm talking about anyway...
In any case, how do
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Hey Rocky,
Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!
Sorry, just had to get that out of my system. Most people on the list won't
have a clue as to what I'm talking about anyway...
In any case, how do
@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place
Holder justification
Gil,
I hear
that all the time, plus "Hey Rocky, where's Bullwinkle?" Heehee hee.
Anyway, for people like me who couldn't see Dean and joe and all the rest
of youse guys even if I had the Hubble telescope, beca
etc. These are 'harmful' to the firm in the same way as a network outage is, IMHO.
my 2 penneth,
neil
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rocky HabeebSent: 28 April 2006 14:51To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
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Neil,
In some ways they may be even more harmful. Network outages have
their own fixes, hardware failures have
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Sent: Thu 2006-04-27 01:23
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Who?
--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net
Mark,
I'm in the same place you are: single forest, single domain, but 30 DCs in a
global deployment with 45k users and 37k computers. Ran that way for 6 years.
Now we've sold off a business unit of a couple thousand users and they
outsourced to a big 3rd party service provider who insisted
to have an empty forest root domain or not... (things I just thought of)
POSSIBLES FOR TO HAVE:
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Large, complex and dynamic organizations
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Organization with independent departments and decentralized IT
departments (because of this one or more IT departments
forgot to mention in my previous post..
always go for a single domain forest! unlessblabla...yadayada...(and this
should be a STRONG reason)
Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards,
Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto
Senior Infrastructure Consultant
MVP Windows Server - Directory Services
14:56
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Your subject is your answer. They need to justify a root domain. Is
there an actual reason for it?
There are only three reasons to have one, imho(cut and pasted from a
google search)
1. Security
.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:29 AM
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Number 1 of these really drive me nuts
, perhaps this is a real design flaw in AD,
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I view number 1 security issues
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I view number 1 security issues more at the GPO level than the
resource
level. Password and lockout policies
offerings. :) I admit I was wrong :)
Jef
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:03:19 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Mark, I'minthesameplaceyouare:singleforest,singledomain
.
Of course this can all be done using different ACL's and task groups and what not, but is there a a simpler way that I am missing?
Jef
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Mark,
I'm in the same place you are: single forest, single domain, but 30 DCs
in a global deployment with 45k users and 37k
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I would tend to agree that a single domain is optimal with the current AD and
infrastructure
Thanks Guido,
Mark
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From: Grillenmeier, Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:04:39
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
There isn't much official documentation available on this topic and if
you search
On Behalf Of Jef KazimerSent: Mittwoch, 26. April 2006 17:48To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
I would tend to agree that a single domain is optimal with the current AD and infrastructure that is available. Other than security, legacy
From: Jef Kazimer
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12:30 PM
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Place Holder justification
Guido,
My
thoughts exactly. I always start my complaining with It was
designed with what we knew at the time
they should re-evaluate their service offerings. :) I admit I was wrong
:)
Jef
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:03:19 -0600
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Mark,
I'minthesameplaceyouare:singleforest
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[ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Jef,
We dont have a root
domain because somebody smarter than I made that decision before I took
over. I was convinced at the time we had made a m
Title: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
I spoke to an MCS engineer on this very topic a while back and he confirmed that Microsoft has gotten away from recommending a dedicated forest root unless there's a compelling reason to have one. Sorry I can't be more specific
Of Jef KazimerSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 9:51 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
Al,
If you had asked me in the year 2000, I could see issues that would drive a root domain to anchor multiple domains. I would caution against it now. I
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Jef,
We don’t have a root domain because somebody smarter than I made that decision before I took over. I was convince
Dean/Joseph
Anything to add?
Mark
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From: Jef Kazimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:15:09
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
RH,
It comes in the management issues. I currently deal
ed by your
question...
-gil
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HabeebSent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:03 PMTo:
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Holder justification
"Where's the
harm?"
Don't tell me about economics
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
"Where's the harm?"
Don't tell me about economics or overhead or other things.
Tell me where the "harm" is.
Please.
RH
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justification
Dean/Joseph
Anything to add?
Mark
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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:15:09
To:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Root Place Holder justification
RH,
It comes in the management issues. I currently deal
This is quickly becoming one of those religious type argument items. Top
post -vs- bottom post. Universal Groups -vs- Domain Local Groups. Open -vs-
fixed naming standards. Open Source -vs- proprietary. Linux -vs- Windows.
Linux -vs- BSD. IIS -vs- Apache. MySQL -vs- SQL Server. PHP -vs Perl. Coke
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