2008/6/27 Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Russell and William,
OK, I think that I am finally beginning to get it. No one here is really
planning to do wonderful things that people can't reasonably do, though
Russell has pointed out some improvements which I will comment on
separately.
I
Steve:No one here is really planning to do wonderful things that people can't
reasonably do,
Why don't you specify examples of the problems you see as appropriate for
exploration?
Your statement *sounds* a little confused - it may not be. The big challenge
for an AGI is to solve the problems
I'm going to ignore the oversimplifications of a variety of peoples positions.
But no one in AGI knows how to design or instruct a machine to work without
algorithms - or, to be more precise, *complete* algorithms. It's unthinkable
- it seems like asking someone not to breathe... until, like
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 6:32 AM, Steve Richfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unsupervised learning? This could be really good for looking for strange
things in blood samples. Now, I routinely order a manual differential white
count that requires someone to manually look over the blood cells with a
Steve Richfield wrote:
Russell and William,
OK, I think that I am finally beginning to get it. No one here is really
planning to do wonderful things that people can't reasonably do
Huh?
Not true.
I gave you a list of features that go a mind-boggling way beyond what
people can do. I do
William,
On 6/27/08, William Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, no one here appears to be interested in understanding this
landscape of solving future hyper-complex problems, but instead
apparently
everyone wishes to leave this work to some future AGI, that cannot
possibly
Russell
On 6/27/08, Russell Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
My ultimate vision?
YES! One of my tricks in pulling out-of-control projects out of the soup,
is to ask for a vision of how the task will be performed in ~100 years in
the future. Often that vision is much simpler than what they are
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Steve Richfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just one gotcha
[two claimed gotchas snipped]
I disagree with your assessment - while I agree present government and
society have problems, as I see it history shows that the development
of technology in general, and
2008/6/26 Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Perhaps we can completely sidestep the countless contentious issues
regarding what intelligence is, what an AGI is, what consciousness is, what
is needed, etc., with an entirely different approach:
It's the usual pattern for participants on AI
Steve Richfield wrote:
To all,
Perhaps we can completely sidestep the countless contentious issues
regarding what intelligence is, what an AGI is, what consciousness is, what
is needed, etc., with an entirely different approach:
Perhaps we could create a short database (maybe only a dozen or
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Steve Richfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps we could create a short database (maybe only a dozen or so entries)
of sample queries, activities, tasks, etc., that YOU would like to see YOUR
future AGIs performing to earn their electricity.
The approach I
2008/6/26 Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jiri previously noted that perhaps AGIs would best be used to manage the
affairs of humans so that we can do as we please without bothering with the
complex details of life. Of course, people and some (communist) governments
now already perform
Russell and William,
OK, I think that I am finally beginning to get it. No one here is really
planning to do wonderful things that people can't reasonably do, though
Russell has pointed out some improvements which I will comment on
separately.
I am interested in things that people can NOT
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