[agi] OpenCog hands-on workshop Sunday

2008-10-25 Thread Ben Goertzel
A reminder to all in the San Fran Bay area ... a hands-on workshop on OpenCog hosted by Ben Goertzel, Joel Pitt and David Hart will be held Sunday. Details are here: http://opencog.org/wiki/CogDev2008 There is no cost except your sanity. -- Ben G -- Ben Goertzel, PhD CEO, Novamente LLC

Re: [agi] OpenCog Prime complex systems [was MOVETHREAD ... wikibook and roadmap ...

2008-08-02 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi... About OCP and Eliezer ... This is another topic that was bound to come up! OpenCogPrime is the design and approach of myself and a number of my colleagues ... but it's not Eliezer's design or approach Eliezer and I have many points of agreement, many points of disagreement, and many

Re: [agi] OpenCog Prime complex systems [was MOVETHREAD ... wikibook and roadmap ...]

2008-08-02 Thread Richard Loosemore
David Hart wrote: On 8/2/08, *Richard Loosemore* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus: in my paper there is a quote from a book in which Conway's efforts were described, and it is transparently clear from this quote that the method Conway used was random search:

RE: [agi] OpenCog Prime wikibook and roadmap posted (moderately detailed design for an OpenCog-based thinking machine)

2008-08-01 Thread Derek Zahn
Ben, Thanks for the large amount of work that must have gone into the production of the wikibook. Along with the upcoming PLN book (now scheduled for Sept 26 according to Amazon) and re-reading The Hidden Pattern, there should be enough material for a diligent student to grok your approach.

RE: [agi] OpenCog Prime wikibook and roadmap posted (moderately detailed design for an OpenCog-based thinking machine)

2008-08-01 Thread Mark Waser
: Friday, August 01, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: **SPAM** RE: [agi] OpenCog Prime wikibook and roadmap posted (moderately detailed design for an OpenCog-based thinking machine) Ben, Thanks for the large amount of work that must have gone into the production of the wikibook. Along

[agi] OpenCog Prime complex systems [was MOVETHREAD ... wikibook and roadmap ...]

2008-08-01 Thread David Hart
On 8/2/08, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thus: in my paper there is a quote from a book in which Conway's efforts were described, and it is transparently clear from this quote that the method Conway used was random search: I believe this statement misinterprets the quote and

[agi] OpenCog Prime wikibook and roadmap posted (moderately detailed design for an OpenCog-based thinking machine)

2008-07-30 Thread Ben Goertzel
Hi all, I just sent the following email to the OpenCog email list ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]). To avoid replicated discussion, I'd like to do any serious, detail scientific/technical discussion of OpenCog Prime on the OpenCog email list. So if you want to talk about OpenCogPrime in detail, please sign

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-29 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Dougherty wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 1:55 PM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Dougherty wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that would be a serious miusunderstanding of the framework and development environment that I am

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-29 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
On 12/28/07, Jean-Paul Van Belle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO more important than working towards contributing clean code would be to *publish the (required) interfaces for the modules as well as give standards for/details on the knowledge representation format*. I am sure that you have those

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Dec 28, 2007 4:17 AM, Ed Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, You are entitled to your reservations about OpenCog, but others, like me, are entitled to our enthusiasms about it. You are correct that OpenCog starts with a certain approach, but I think it is an approach that has a lot

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread YKY (Yan King Yin)
OpenCog is definitely a positive thing to happen in the AGI scene. It's been all vaporware so far. I wonder what would be the level of participation? Also I think it's going to increase the chance of a safe takeoff, by exposing users and developers gradually to AGI. But we also need to have

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Richard Loosemore
Benjamin Goertzel wrote: I wish you much luck with your own approach And, I would imagine that if you create a software framework supporting your own approach in a convenient way, my own currently favored AI approaches will not be conveniently explorable within it. That's the nature of

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
On Dec 28, 2007 5:59 AM, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenCog is definitely a positive thing to happen in the AGI scene. It's been all vaporware so far. Yes, it's all vaporware so far ;-) On the other hand, the code we hope to release as part of OpenCog actually exists, but

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that would be a serious miusunderstanding of the framework and development environment that I am building. Your system would be just as easy to build as any other. ... considering the proliferation of AGI

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Jean-Paul Van Belle
IMHO more important than working towards contributing clean code would be to *publish the (required) interfaces for the modules as well as give standards for/details on the knowledge representation format*. I am sure that you have those spread over various internal and published documents

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Goertzel wrote: I wish you much luck with your own approach And, I would imagine that if you create a software framework supporting your own approach in a convenient way, my own currently favored AI

Re : [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Bruno Frandemiche
http://gbbopen.org/ - Message d'origine De : Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : agi@v2.listbox.com Envoyé le : Vendredi, 28 Décembre 2007, 15h14mn 10s Objet : Re: [agi] OpenCog On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Goertzel wrote: I wish

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Richard Loosemore
Benjamin Goertzel wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Benjamin Goertzel wrote: I wish you much luck with your own approach And, I would imagine that if you create a software framework supporting your own approach in a convenient way, my own

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Richard Loosemore
Mike Dougherty wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that would be a serious miusunderstanding of the framework and development environment that I am building. Your system would be just as easy to build as any other. ... considering the

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-28 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Dec 28, 2007 1:55 PM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Dougherty wrote: On Dec 28, 2007 8:28 AM, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that would be a serious miusunderstanding of the framework and development environment that I am building. Your system

[agi] OpenCog

2007-12-27 Thread Richard Loosemore
Ed Porter wrote: OpenCog: A Software Framework for Integrative Artificial General Intelligence by Dave Hart and Ben Goertzel says Contingent upon funding for OpenCog proceeding as planned, we are targeting 1H08 for our first official code release, to be accompanied by a full complement of

RE: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-27 Thread Ed Porter
To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: [agi] OpenCog Ed Porter wrote: OpenCog: A Software Framework for Integrative Artificial General Intelligence by Dave Hart and Ben Goertzel says Contingent upon funding for OpenCog proceeding as planned, we are targeting 1H08 for our first official code release

Re: [agi] OpenCog

2007-12-27 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Loosemore wrote: I am sorry, but I have reservations about the OpenCog project. The problem of building an open-source AI needs a framework-level tool that is specifically designed to allow a wide variety of architectures to be described and expressed. OpenCog, as far as I can see, does not

[agi] OpenCog

2007-12-27 Thread Benjamin Goertzel
Re the recent discussion of OpenCog -- this recent post I made to the OpenCog mailing list may perhaps help clarify the intentions underlying the project further. -- Ben -- Forwarded message -- From: Benjamin Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Dec 27, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: Re: