Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-31 Thread John LaMuth
Richard Dismissal as gibberish is one of the oldest and cheapest rhetorical tricks in History and the signpost of a feeble mind. I would save a mention of you in my memoirs, but that would still be far too generous ... JLM ^ John, You make a mistake

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-30 Thread John LaMuth
- Original Message - From: Harvey Newstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Fw: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, There is nothing at all spam-like about publicizing a

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-30 Thread Richard Loosemore
John LaMuth wrote: - Original Message - From: Harvey Newstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com mailto:agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Fw: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS John LaMuth

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread Harvey Newstrom
Google Glory/Prudence Providence/Faith Grace/Beauty Tranquility/Ecstasy to see about a hundred of these postings spammed all over the Internet since 2001. They are always the same stuff rebranded as a new unified theory for psychology, spirituality, classifying emotions, decoding mental illness,

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread John LaMuth
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/behaviorism.html http://www.forebrain.org # - Original Message - From: Harvey Newstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED

What does it do? useful in AGI? Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread William Pearson
2008/7/22 Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept interrupting me to ask: What does it do? Tell me what it does. I don't understand what your system does.

Re: What does it do? useful in AGI? Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Tintner
Will: Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept interrupting me to ask: What does it do? Tell me what it does. I don't understand what your system does. What

Re: What does it do? useful in AGI? Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Archbold
2008/7/22 Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept interrupting me to ask: What does it do? Tell me what it does. I don't understand what your system does.

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread John LaMuth
://www.forebrain.org - Original Message - From: Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS --- On Tue, 7/22/08, John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming I'm

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Jiri Jelinek
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jan Klauck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions ? Can your (ethical) AI read the content of the following link, translate it conceptually from physics to AI and give us a friendly answer (including a score)? http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
http://www.forebrain.org http://www.charactervalues.com http://www.charactervalues.org http://www.charactervalues.net - Original Message - From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Bromer
* From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To: agi@v2.listbox.com * Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS * Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:37:16 -0500 Mr. LaMuth, You are correct, sir. I should not have

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
--- Dude... Get a life. I mean that in the friendliest way possible, but honestly. Get a life. Jim Bromer * *From:* Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *To:* agi@v2.listbox.com * *Subject:* Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread John LaMuth
prove instrumental towards commercial licensure. Gratefully John LaMuth www.emotionchip.net - Original Message - From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/7/21 John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Announcing the recently issued U.S. patent concerning ethical artificial intelligence titled: Inductive Inference Affective Language Analyzer Simulating AI. This just show what a farce the US patent system has become.

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Tintner
Perhaps like Bob, I'm not sure whether this isn't a leg-pull. But, to take it seriously, how do you propose to give your robot free will - especially considering that the vast majority of AI/AGI-ers roboticists are still committed to an algorithmic paradigm which both excludes free will and

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread BillK
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: This is a real patent, unfortunately... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F6587846 But I think it will expire before anyone has the

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/7/21 Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a real patent, unfortunately... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F6587846 But I think it will expire before anyone has the technology

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Tintner
BillK: I prefer Warren Ellis's angry, profane Three Laws of Robotics. (linked from BoingBoing) http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5426 Actually, while I take Ellis' point as in 1...what are you thinking? Ooh, I must protect the bag of meat at all costs because I couldn't possibly plug in the

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Seems like this is getting to be a regualr event on the AGI, or other singularity-related lists: about once a year or so some crackpot announces that they have filed a patent for a complete thinking machine, or a robot-ethics system or some other garbage. The other crackpot announcement we