Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Richfield
Abram, On 7/22/08, Abram Demski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem Statement: What are the optimal functions, derived from real-world observations of past events, the timings of their comings and goings, and perhaps their physical association, to extract each successive parameter containing

Re: [agi] Is intelligence just a single non-linear function? [WAS Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything]

2008-07-22 Thread Richard Loosemore
Steve Richfield wrote: Richard, Good - you hit this one on its head! Continuing... On 7/22/08, *Richard Loosemore* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Richfield wrote: THIS is a big question. Remembering that absolutely ANY function can be

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread John LaMuth
Matt A number of key approaches to AI, such as brain modeling through neural networks, have repeatedly been attempted, although scarcely enough detailed information exists about the brain to warrant any such serious inroads. In actuality, the key solution to developing convincing artificial

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Richfield
Abram, On 7/22/08, Abram Demski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the paper you posted, and from wikipedia articles, the current meaning of PCA is very different from your generalized version. I doubt the current algorithms would even metaphorically apply... Just more input points that are

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Jiri Jelinek
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jan Klauck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions ? Can your (ethical) AI read the content of the following link, translate it conceptually from physics to AI and give us a friendly answer (including a score)? http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-22 Thread Abram Demski
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abram, On 7/22/08, Abram Demski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the paper you posted, and from wikipedia articles, the current meaning of PCA is very different from your generalized version. I doubt the current

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Richfield
Abram, All good points. Detailed comments follow. First I must take a LONG drag, because I must now blow a lot of smoke... On 7/22/08, Abram Demski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Steve Richfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Abram, On 7/22/08, Abram Demski [EMAIL

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-22 Thread Steve Richfield
Derek, On 7/22/08, Derek Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remembering that absolutely ANY function can be performed by passing the inputs through a suitable non-linearity, adding them up, and running the results through another suitable non-linearity, it isn't clear what the limitations

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
Mr. LaMuth, You are correct, sir. I should not have called you a patent troll. It was not only harsh, it was inaccurate. I was under the impression the term applied to a person or company holding a patent said person or company was not also developing, or imminently planning to develop, as

Re: [agi] TOE -- US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Mike Archbold
- Original Message - From: Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was

[agi] Pretty soon, there will be nowhere to hide!

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
All, DUTCH RESEARCHERS TAKE FLIGHT WITH THREE-GRAM 'DRAGONFLY' http://www.physorg.com/news135936047.html Some may consider this a bit off-topic, but it has an undeniable way cool factor. Be sure to watch the video (YouTube link in the article). Come to think of it, since everything has

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Bromer
Brad Paulsen Said: Mr. LaMuth, You are correct, sir. I should not have called you a patent troll. It was not only harsh, it was inaccurate. I was under the impression the term applied to a person or company holding a patent said person or company was not also developing, or imminently

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
Ah... And just what the hell is your problem? And I mean that in the friendliest way possible. Just what the HELL is your problem? Brad Jim Bromer wrote: Brad Paulsen Said: Mr. LaMuth, You are correct, sir. I should not have called you a patent troll. It was not only harsh, it was

Re: [agi] Computing's coming Theory of Everything

2008-07-22 Thread Benjamin Johnston
/Restating (not copying) my original posting, the challenge of effective unstructured learning is to utilize every clue and NOT just go with static clusters, etc. This includes temporal as well as positional clues, information content, etc. PCA does some but certainly not all of this, but

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread John LaMuth
Brad No apology necessary ... Indeed, I owe everyone one myself for my somewhat brash entrance into the group. That said, I can appreciate your track record in the IT field, and I accept your gracious offer of expert analysis and your stipulations I trust that you will produce nothing