Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-31 Thread John LaMuth
Richard Dismissal as gibberish is one of the oldest and cheapest rhetorical tricks in History and the signpost of a feeble mind. I would save a mention of you in my memoirs, but that would still be far too generous ... JLM ^ John, You make a mistake

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-30 Thread John LaMuth
- Original Message - From: Harvey Newstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Fw: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, There is nothing at all spam-like about publicizing

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-30 Thread Richard Loosemore
John LaMuth wrote: - Original Message - From: Harvey Newstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com mailto:agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:18 PM Subject: Fw: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS John LaMuth

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread Harvey Newstrom
Google Glory/Prudence Providence/Faith Grace/Beauty Tranquility/Ecstasy to see about a hundred of these postings spammed all over the Internet since 2001. They are always the same stuff rebranded as a new unified theory for psychology, spirituality, classifying emotions, decoding mental illness,

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread John LaMuth
http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/fairhaven/behaviorism.html http://www.forebrain.org # - Original Message - From: Harvey Newstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED

Fw: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-29 Thread Harvey Newstrom
John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, There is nothing at all spam-like about publicizing a new and worthy addition to global knowledge and harmony. Publicize it on your own websites. People can find it if they want. You don't have to repeatedly post the same stuff over and over to a bunch

What does it do? useful in AGI? Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread William Pearson
2008/7/22 Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept interrupting me to ask: What does it do? Tell me what it does. I don't understand what your system does.

Re: What does it do? useful in AGI? Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Tintner
Will: Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept interrupting me to ask: What does it do? Tell me what it does. I don't understand what your system does. What

Re: What does it do? useful in AGI? Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-23 Thread Mike Archbold
2008/7/22 Mike Archbold [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It looks to me to be borrowed from Aristotle's ethics. Back in my college days, I was trying to explain my project and the professor kept interrupting me to ask: What does it do? Tell me what it does. I don't understand what your system does.

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread John LaMuth
://www.forebrain.org - Original Message - From: Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS --- On Tue, 7/22/08, John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming I'm

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Jiri Jelinek
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jan Klauck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions ? Can your (ethical) AI read the content of the following link, translate it conceptually from physics to AI and give us a friendly answer (including a score)? http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
http://www.forebrain.org http://www.charactervalues.com http://www.charactervalues.org http://www.charactervalues.net - Original Message - From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Bromer
* From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To: agi@v2.listbox.com * Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS * Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:37:16 -0500 Mr. LaMuth, You are correct, sir. I should not have

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread Brad Paulsen
--- Dude... Get a life. I mean that in the friendliest way possible, but honestly. Get a life. Jim Bromer * *From:* Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] * *To:* agi@v2.listbox.com * *Subject:* Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-22 Thread John LaMuth
prove instrumental towards commercial licensure. Gratefully John LaMuth www.emotionchip.net - Original Message - From: Brad Paulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/7/21 John LaMuth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Announcing the recently issued U.S. patent concerning ethical artificial intelligence titled: Inductive Inference Affective Language Analyzer Simulating AI. This just show what a farce the US patent system has become.

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Tintner
Perhaps like Bob, I'm not sure whether this isn't a leg-pull. But, to take it seriously, how do you propose to give your robot free will - especially considering that the vast majority of AI/AGI-ers roboticists are still committed to an algorithmic paradigm which both excludes free will and

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread BillK
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Matt Mahoney wrote: This is a real patent, unfortunately... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F6587846 But I think it will expire before anyone has the

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Bob Mottram
2008/7/21 Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a real patent, unfortunately... http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50d=PALLRefSrch=yesQuery=PN%2F6587846 But I think it will expire before anyone has the technology

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Mike Tintner
BillK: I prefer Warren Ellis's angry, profane Three Laws of Robotics. (linked from BoingBoing) http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5426 Actually, while I take Ellis' point as in 1...what are you thinking? Ooh, I must protect the bag of meat at all costs because I couldn't possibly plug in the

Re: [agi] US PATENT ISSUED for the TEN ETHICAL LAWS OF ROBOTICS

2008-07-21 Thread Richard Loosemore
Seems like this is getting to be a regualr event on the AGI, or other singularity-related lists: about once a year or so some crackpot announces that they have filed a patent for a complete thinking machine, or a robot-ethics system or some other garbage. The other crackpot announcement we