Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-13 Thread Peter Enderborg
Dan Hollis wrote: On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Peter Enderborg wrote: It is realy a small market. For example one of the big midi interface manufactures (Midiman) don't even have full supprt of there new highend products for windows 2000. You have to go for windows 9x or NT for that. But it is

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-13 Thread Peter Enderborg
dave willis wrote: On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Peter Enderborg wrote: It is realy a small market. For example one of the big midi interface manufactures (Midiman) don't even have full supprt of there new highend products for windows 2000. you must be thinking of someone else. all of their

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Davis
it's been the same with MOTU, some vendors are just ignorant of a large potential customer base. lets not kid ourselves. there is a *tiny* potential customer base for the next several years at least, and the existing customer base is even smaller. the customer base for audio chipsets in things

RE: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Sent: 12 October 2001 12:59 To: J rn Nettingsmeier Cc: Michael Staggs; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge it's been the same with MOTU, some vendors are just ignorant of a large potential customer base. lets not kid ourselves. there is a *tiny* potential

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread dave willis
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Paul Davis wrote: it's been the same with MOTU, some vendors are just ignorant of a large potential customer base. lets not kid ourselves. there is a *tiny* potential customer base for the next several years at least, and the existing customer base is even smaller.

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Davis
i seriously doubt that. perhaps it's true for additional companies, as hammerfall is well established in the high-end and m-audio (and terratec) how many hammerfall purchasers do you think run linux? even the fact that the most impressive and forward-thinking demo of the last 2 years (mcgill's

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Paul Davis
If hardware manufactures wanted their products to have good support on Linux, all they have to do is publish the hardware programming details, and the linux community will do the actual driver development. thats why i wrote inertia-bound companies. they don't see this. they think that linux

RE: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Erik Inge Bolsø
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: All chip only manufactures publish the details. I don't have any Philips hardware, but there is a principal here. Well, the DSP chip on the Acoustic Edge series_does_ have a 68 page datasheet available. It may not be enough to write a driver, but

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Frans Ketelaars wrote: Also, quoting http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ : A few words of thanks... Philips gratiously donated a PCVC680, a PCVC730 and a PCVC740 webcam for driver development, and kudos to their engineers which have to endure the stream of E-mails

RE: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Dan Hollis
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: I still don't understand what manufactures are protecting by not releasing the programming details needed for 3rd parties to develope their own drivers. I've found several reasons: 1) They don't even have documentation themselves (which is

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Peter Enderborg
Paul Davis wrote: it's been the same with MOTU, some vendors are just ignorant of a large potential customer base. lets not kid ourselves. there is a *tiny* potential customer base for the next several years at least, and the existing customer base is even smaller. It is realy a small

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-12 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Peter Enderborg wrote: It is realy a small market. For example one of the big midi interface manufactures (Midiman) don't even have full supprt of there new highend products for windows 2000. You have to go for windows 9x or NT for that. But it is strage, they only have

Re: [Alsa-devel] Philips Acoustic Edge

2001-10-11 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Michael Staggs wrote: I asked Philips for information needed to build linux drivers as per the ALSA call to contributors. The reply I got was very disheartening: Philips continues to watch the Linux market and driver development will be related to increased adoption of the Linux