I can assure you that in basically 52 years of working DX that geographical
names definitely work better in the vast majority of situations than the ICAO
phonetics. Yes, eventually, the ICAO phonetics will be understood. However,
the station on the other end is generally going to work
At 07:52 PM 4/10/2011, you wrote:
This is a bunch of baloney! Your unpublished non-standard just confuses
most people. I've listened to hours of DX and the ITU alphabet gets through
just fine. It's when people start throwing out their cutesy made up
alphabet that it gets confusing.
I could
I agree Glen
I use the ICAO phonetics for work, but I have terrible luck with them when
working DX!
Scott N6PG
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- Original Message -
From: Glen Zook gz...@yahoo.com
To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org; Jeff Moore tnetcen...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 5:43 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
I can assure you that in basically 52 years of working DX that geographical
names
See comments in line below:
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
- Original Message - From: Glen Zook gz...@yahoo.com
I can assure you that in basically 52 years of working DX that geographical
names definitely work better in the vast majority of situations than the ICAO
phonetics. Yes,
On Mon, 11 Apr 2011 14:17:49 -0700, Jeff Moore wrote:
== Could it be that they understand the quicksand you're standing on?
No. We know from long experience (35+ years in my case) that Glen is right.
73
-Jim
--
Ham Radio NU0C
Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A.
TR7/RV7/R7A/L7, TR6/RV6,
The question of proper phonetics comes up several times a month in threads on
QRZ.com. Unfortunately, the ICAO phonetics (alpha, bravo, etc.) present
problems when regional accents in the United States are present and even more
so when the person involved does not have English as their primary
The use of Kilowatt as a phonetic is a pet peeve of mine especially where there
is a brief pause between kilo and watt. When I hear kilo I assume the letter
k
is being represented, then when I hear watt I have to decide if the sender is
also representing the letter w or not.
It seems overly
Although some people say kilowatt is two words, it definitely is not. In over
50 years of using kilowatt as a phonetic I have not once had a station think
it is KW. Kilowatt makes it through QRM and QSB a LOT better than kilo.
Some operators do use Kansas or Korea for the letter K.
Glen,
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 9:33 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Mark Spencer
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
Although some people say kilowatt is two words, it definitely is not. In
over 50 years of using kilowatt as a phonetic I have not once had a
station think it is KW. Kilowatt makes
: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Glen Zook
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 11:33 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org; Mark Spencer
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
Although some people say kilowatt is two words, it definitely is not. In
over 50 years
2011 11:28:52 -0700
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
Glen,
Engineers use KW for kilowatt. That might explain my confusion using KW
abbreviation as an occupation for 30 years before becoming an Amateur Radio
Operator.
Art,
KC6UQH
-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun
Scheller nh...@msn.com
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
To: kc6...@cox.net, gz...@yahoo.com, amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org,
mspencer12...@yahoo.ca
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 3:16 PM
Glen et all,
Once upon a time, during WWII, the phonetic alphabet started: Abei, Baker,
Dog
I have to agree!!
The phonetics in the phonetic alphabet were chosen for a reason.
They are very hard to confuse with another letter.
Fancy phonetics have no place in communications that you want understood.
If you want to get a call sign correct use the standard phonetic alphabet.
That way
Sorry, John. Information here needs to jive better with the history.
ICAO developed a phonetic alphabet in the mid-to late 1940's to help the
budding field of international aviation. They came up with an alphabet
designed to be spoken (and mangled) by people of any mother tongue and be well
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--- On Sun, 4/10/11, nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com wrote:
From: nh6vb Scheller nh...@msn.com
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
To: kc6...@cox.net, gz...@yahoo.com, amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org,
mspencer12...@yahoo.ca
Date: Sunday, April 10, 2011, 3:16 PM
Glen et all,
Once
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:52:37 -0700, Jeff Moore wrote:
This is a bunch of baloney!
Stick to the standard and it will work fine.
Experience trumps experts. I have a friend who's name went into the log as
Dred because a South American ham kept hearing Golf as Dog. So much for
standards.
I'll
@amsat.org
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 1:38 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:52:37 -0700, Jeff Moore wrote:
This is a bunch of baloney!
Stick to the standard and it will work fine.
Experience trumps experts. I have a friend who's name went into the log
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:53:53 +
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: The Need for Phonetics
I have found that Japan works much better than Juliet for the letter J.
People keep hearing Juliet as India. don't know why, they don't sound
anything alike, but that is what happens.
73s John
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