Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-20 Thread Lenn Dolling
whoo hoo! In the last 3 days I worked hard to put out a title that might get me more downloads check it out. Vancouver Riots The Game 2011 http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vancouver-Riots-The-Game-2011/180693255322974?sk=wall :) Not better than a lightbulb. I just wanted to bring some global

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-17 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Actually, though he expressed it with the sarcasm emoticon, I have to agree with Romain Guy's assessment as more accurate: he overdid it a little bit. I would have eliminated only maximum and 'effects' as way too broad, and Best, Great, Fun, Cool, Coolest, Widget as claiming too much. Also

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread n.a
On Jun 15, 8:40 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: What Google has to do is to create a separate Tags input field in the market admin panel, give it some limit and then let the developers compete. This is the fair way. In your case, 2/3 of your app description was keywords I'm

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Mark Carter
Were the apps remotely removed from your users' devices? If not, then once you have republished (as Zsolt suggested), you can use House Ads to drive your pulled-app customers to your republished apps. On 15 June 2011 13:40, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote: What Google has to do is to

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Lenn Dolling
a horror story for sure. 6M users is a huge hand full to just be dumped like a rock. Like I wrote a app that calculates CDC Flu XML data from live datasets and built internal databases for custom reporting of the data and and a whole lot more and I have yet to have a single user download the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Lenn Dolling
geeze after thinking about this for a few minutes longer... Seems pretty complex of a app with all your api integrations for a Flashlight... I wonder how many of the 6 Million users that you have as your customer base had issues with your app.. I wonder if anyone really needed a flashlight to

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread n.a
I don't know yet. I'm still waiting for more accurate data from Flurry. Most of the users are using the widget, so they never see any ads. In this article Quentyn says that the widget is still on his home screen:

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Lenn Dolling
well I have been importing androids from the HK for a while now, I am shocked on how liberal their market is. Has anyone ever browsed through the Photography section of the market place? GOOGLE©™ clean that shit up. Korean porn all over the place.. I am happy that GOOGLE©™ has a magic wand and

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Romain Guy
After the list of devices you have the following: Torch, Light, Camera, Flash, Color, Dark, Bright, Brightness, Brightest, Lights, Signal, Find Keys, Screen, Effects, brightest flashlight, Emergency, Warning, Police, brightest led flash, DroidLight, Maximum, Backlight, Best, Great, Fun, Cool,

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
Sorry, I only saw the beginning of the list. I take back the 2/3 of spam comment I made earlier. It's actually more like 95% spam. I can now categorically say this guy deserved his app removed. No one can say that they didn't know this was wrong. On Jun 15, 2:15 pm, Romain Guy

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Chris
That's a fair enough assessment of what went wrong. But its really not a justification to someone with an excruciatingly penetrating app (I mean seriously, he's sending ioctls to drivers to support really old platforms) for just banning the developer account. I understand you might not be in

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Chris
sorry, I meant ... if anyone in their right minds that were trying to push an otherwise legit app ... ran slighly afoul of a cumbersome TOS , I'd hope there was some sort of recourse ... Late, tired, hungry, blah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Romain Guy
To be clear: I'm not justifying anything and I don't know more about Market than you guys do. I actually probably know less since I haven't published an app in a couple of years. I was only commenting on the discussion about whether that particular app was using too many keywords. I do not know

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Kevin TeslaCoil Software
tesla Hey! That's my keyword (TeslaLED Flashlight)! I do agree that keyword spam doesn't seem big enough of an offense for your whole account to be deleted. Any chance one of your other apps did something that could've been considered malware? Maybe Tiny was just caught in the mix and the

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread n.a
IT’S BACK!!! They returned the account. And the applications. The app is only 4 positions back in the overall ranking (from 49 to 53). Just WOW! Didn’t expect them to react so fast. There is still no word from Google what was the problem. I've removed the keywords. If this

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Hitendrasinh Gohil
cheers! On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:15 AM, n.a devuni...@gmail.com wrote: IT’S BACK!!! They returned the account. And the applications. The app is only 4 positions back in the overall ranking (from 49 to 53). Just WOW! Didn’t expect them to react so fast. There is

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread n.a
Hey Kevin, Yes, I've used tesla. Sorry if you feel offended. Bebbled is completely written by me - it doesn't include any external libraries. I don't think there is anything which might look like malware there. Tiny Compass - it has many permissions including the ones for location, but that's

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread String
Suggestion: rather than using a list of keywords, work them into your description. So if you really want to list the devices, for example, put something like this in your description: Tested on: G1 Droid Nexus One Galaxy S ... Not only does that look less spammy, but it's more likely to be

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Peter Sinnott
On Jun 15, 6:40 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote Is there anything stopping you from creating a new account, paying the $25 again and republishing your app?  It's not ideal, but since you have a free app, it's not like you have to migrate the users.  If your app is good, and I

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread n.a
Got the official response from Google: Your account came under review during an investigation where individuals spoofed some of your developer details in order to obfuscate detection. Please be assured it is not malware related, and we have introduced protocol to prevent such an interruption in

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
By the way, I sent a CD letter to the author of the app who used my app's name as a keyword spam, and he promptly removed it. On Jun 15, 8:04 pm, String sterling.ud...@googlemail.com wrote: Suggestion: rather than using a list of keywords, work them into your description. So if you really want

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Lenn Dolling
Congrats on getting your app back. this should be a heads up for everyone. On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:26 AM, n.a devuni...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Kevin, Yes, I've used tesla. Sorry if you feel offended. Bebbled is completely written by me - it doesn't include any external libraries. I don't

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-15 Thread Lenn Dolling
On Jun 15, 6:40 am, Zsolt Vasvari zvasv...@gmail.com wrote Maybe Google have blacklisted him and he will get booted as soon as they work out it is him. I agree. it seemed like a 20 line fat stacked keyword list that took more time I am sure than the program took to design. . anyone with a

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread n.a
Yes, I'm using hacks on some devices to start the led. The hacks include: 1. Using private APIs for some old motorola devices 2. On some old samsung devices I have a native library, which sends ioctl calls directly to the camera driver. Everything is being executed in the application's process.

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread Yahel
Sorry that you only found out now about google's ways of doing things. That is true to everything Google and that's the best advice I can give you : Never ever rely on one of their ecosystems to be your only source of income. Actually you can broaden this : Never ever rely on anyone ecosystem to

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread n.a
Apple, at least, gives you 5 days to fix your issues and doesn't suspend the whole account. This is a bad situation to be in. I've sent an e-mail to android- market-support AT google.com but if they answer me after 2 weeks all will be lost. I'll lose my ranking position and will never be able to

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread Yahel
I'm sorry to be that guy, but you really should start thinking that they really just deleted everything about your account, not just hid it somewhere and are able to put it back up for you. That's the thing about general intervention and not case by case intervention : Fire and forget. I really

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread a1
I really doubt it has anything to do with this malaware report, judging on appbrain page your app/account was removed because you violated Market Content Policies (http://www.android.com/us/developer-content-policy.html): Product descriptions should not be misleading or loaded with keywords in

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread JP
On Jun 14, 8:49 am, a1 arco...@gmail.com wrote: I really doubt it has anything to do with this malaware report, judging on appbrain page your app/account was removed because you violated Market Content Policies (http://www.android.com/us/developer-content-policy.html): Product descriptions

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread n.a
If this was the reason why I didn't get a warning email? I would have removed the keywords ASAP. Also, why did they block the whole account and not only this app? I'm still waiting for some email from them. On Jun 14, 6:49 pm, a1 arco...@gmail.com wrote: I really doubt it has anything to do

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread n.a
Yes, it's like a death camp. The experience for the small developer is quite bad. Unfortunately, the small developers have made the market as successful as it is today. I've been with Google from the beginning and have another very successful app - Bebbled (over 1.3 million downloads), which is

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread Indicator Veritatis
Also, don't forget that there are alternatives to Google's Android Market: it costs you very little to put the same app on slideme.org, getjar.com and amazon.com. Now I have to admit, none of these gives you the exposure that Google's does, but they wey they treat developers is generally more

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread Indicator Veritatis
So much for the alleged Google slogan, don't be evil! Any company so proud of their allegedly high intellectual caliber employees (thanks to their 'selective' hirinc processes) should be able to see quite easily that such behavior is indeed evil. The case of keyword relevance is particularly

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread Peter Sinnott
The TOC would work a lot better if people knew how it was being enforced. Alternatively Google can randomly pick developers that are violating the TOC in some way and ban them. The other devs violating the TOC in the same way will continue on their way oblivious to the risk of wining the lotto.

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread John Coryat
The TOC would work a lot better if people knew how it was being enforced. That's like saying I wouldn't have gotten a speeding ticket if I knew where the police were. Not knowing what part of a contact you agreed to is being enforced is irrelevant. What's important is paying attention to

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread n.a
On Jun 15, 4:05 am, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote: The TOC would work a lot better if people knew how it was being enforced. That's like saying I wouldn't have gotten a speeding ticket if I knew where the police were. You don't get a life sentence with the speed ticket. Google gave

Re: [android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread νιנαソkum
kool man On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, n.a devuni...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 4:05 am, John Coryat cor...@gmail.com wrote: The TOC would work a lot better if people knew how it was being enforced. That's like saying I wouldn't have gotten a speeding ticket if I knew where

[android-developers] Re: Google removed 10 mallware apps - I'm affected. Please help

2011-06-14 Thread Zsolt Vasvari
What Google has to do is to create a separate Tags input field in the market admin panel, give it some limit and then let the developers compete. This is the fair way. In your case, 2/3 of your app description was keywords -- so you were by far one of the worst violators. Perhaps one of your