[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Orme
On Apr 30, 6:18 pm, Rob Franz rob.fr...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing, but when he's charging $5 for an app with info that you could google easily, you really kind of see what he's after. If you look at the feedback for his other apps, there's a recurring theme - he's almost a scam artist...

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-30 Thread Rob Franz
I was going to let this thread die but I saw this and had to add on to it because I think it reinforces the need for better filtering options in the Market. I posted this originally because I came across one particular developer (I won't mention the name, but you can find him easily) who's

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-30 Thread Josh Dobbs
Let the users filter them. Eventually those apps will fall to the bottom of the list (if they havent already). Apple has an approval process and they still have tasteless apps get thru. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Rob Franz rob.fr...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to let this thread die but

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-30 Thread Marco Nelissen
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Rob Franz rob.fr...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to let this thread die but I saw this and had to add on to it because I think it reinforces the need for better filtering options in the Market. I posted this originally because I came across one particular

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-30 Thread Rob Franz
Nothing, but when he's charging $5 for an app with info that you could google easily, you really kind of see what he's after. If you look at the feedback for his other apps, there's a recurring theme - he's almost a scam artist... Just saying. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Marco Nelissen

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-30 Thread Josh Dobbs
I don't really think it's an issue at this point. Especially since you can get a refund up to 24 hours after purchase. On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Rob Franz rob.fr...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing, but when he's charging $5 for an app with info that you could google easily, you really kind of

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-17 Thread quakeboy
We guys have to wait till more shiny good looking, light weight phones hit the market along with the cool new cupcake update.. Once the consumer base increases, we are going to get more companies in and quality apps on the market too.. Compare the consumer base and its no where near the iPhone..

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-17 Thread creativepragmatic
Advertising seems like the obvious answer? Currently, AdMob is cleaning up on in application advertising. Nothing has been announce yet but Google's geniuses must be aware of the revenue they are currently foregoing. If it's internal, what are their plans for revenue based on the platform?

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread Tom
I can see why Google may not want to moderate market submissions. For one, it would come at a cost. There would have to be a team of people responsible for it and they'd likely have to take a cut of app profits to cover the cost. Um, 30% seems like a generous cut of app profits. Looking at

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread Dianne Hackborn
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Tom tom_a_h...@yahoo.com wrote: Um, 30% seems like a generous cut of app profits. That money isn't going to Google. -- Dianne Hackborn Android framework engineer hack...@android.com Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread Robert Green
Can I ask the obvious question, then? If it doesn't go to google, then where does it go? On Apr 16, 11:36 am, Dianne Hackborn hack...@android.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Tom tom_a_h...@yahoo.com wrote: Um, 30% seems like a generous cut of app profits. That money isn't going

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread Sundog
On Apr 16, 10:46 am, Robert Green rbgrn@gmail.com wrote: Can I ask the obvious question, then? If it doesn't go to google, then where does it go? Can I give the obvious reply? Oooh, me, me, me. This information is easily available to anyone who has done even the *slightest* research.

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread Robert Green
Ok, you caught me. I didn't research it at all. So T-Mobile (in the states) gets the 30%? Where is google's motivation in this whole thing? It all made sense to me when I thought google was getting all or part of that 30% but if they get none, where's the money coming from to justify the

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread dm1973
I am guessing off of download counts. Top games 1) JewelLust 10-50k downloads 2) Retro defense 1-5k 3) Aevum Obscurum 1-5k So the 2nd best downloaded game is less than 5k of downloads (not sales). Multiple by the 2-4 dollars per game and there aren't many that could possibly be clearing 10k.

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-16 Thread dm1973
Actually the press release says carriers and billing settlement fees. The billing settlement might count as payment to google. I would assume the Settlement fees would be about the same as a normal google checkout transaction. Either way 30% is a pretty fair fee. If you disagree check out what

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-15 Thread Rob
I can see why Google may not want to moderate market submissions. For one, it would come at a cost. There would have to be a team of people responsible for it and they'd likely have to take a cut of app profits to cover the cost. This sort of moderation would also place a delay in getting an

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-15 Thread dm1973
Improve the market feedback. Sure you can scam the first 24 hours of users, but after that when everyone posts comments that it is a scam, sales are going to go to zero. Similarly the refund policy makes it easy to try before you buy versus the iPhone app store where after you spend your .99s you

[android-developers] Re: Quality of paid applications on the Market...

2009-04-15 Thread Josh
I believe Google's solution is to allow the junk to be rated down and comments available to deter people away. But I agree, I wish there was a team to filter out applications that don't meet certain standards. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message