RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-02 Thread Jon Skeet
I've never used VSS, so I'll take your word for it. I hear it's a crummy SCM tool. Why do people use it? Believe me, I wonder how the hell StarTeam, which sucks compared to Perforce or even CVS IMNSHO, got entrenched at where I work. Happened before my time. That's exactly why people

RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-02 Thread Jim Krygowski
Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:02 PM To: Ant Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5] - Original Message - From: Scott Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ant Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-02 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: Scott Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ant Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 15:32 Subject: RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5] The .NET tasks aren't necessarily interactive, or controlling GUIs

RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-01 Thread Jon Skeet
I've intentionally sensationalized the subject. Don't be offended. Why use Ant for things like telnet, VSS, .NET, looping scripts, etc.? I'm all for Ant as a build tool and tool for general development-related Java stuff like deploying apps or running command line, non-interactive,

RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-01 Thread Scott Stirling
-Original Message- From: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] Some people want Ant to do everything (or want to do everything from within Ant), in hopes of achieving portability perfection in a cross-platform world, even at the expense of horrible hacks in custom

RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-01 Thread Scott Stirling
-Original Message- From: Jon Skeet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] In the build procedure at work, due to historical reasons I *only* use Ant for VSS work - simply because it's much better at getting the job done than anything else is, and *much* better than hand labelling lots of

Re: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-12-01 Thread Erik Hatcher
Scott Stirling wrote: tools out there like Flux. Would that appropriate for scheduling builds either from Ant or around Ant? How do others automate Ant builds in cross-platform environments? Cron on UNIX/AT on WIndows? anthill, cruisecontrol. AT sucks. I haven't tried AntHill, but a

Re: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-11-30 Thread Martin
- Original Message - From: Scott Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ant Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 9:37 PM Subject: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5] I've intentionally sensationalized the subject. Don't be offended. Why use Ant

RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-11-30 Thread Scott Stirling
-platform environments? Cron on UNIX/AT on WIndows? Scott Stirling -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:29 PM To: Ant Users List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5] Scott

Re: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5]

2002-11-30 Thread Steve Loughran
- Original Message - From: Scott Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ant Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 18:49 Subject: RE: Ant Perversions [was RE: Properties are causing problem in 1.5] Hi, Cygwin is free and kinda lightweight; UNIX is everywhere