Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Jeff Rogers
Ok, it's good that there are other devs reading, it means I can toss out ideas and get useful feedback on them :) Jim Davidson wrote: Howdy, I still watch the list but haven't had time to dig into the code in a long time -- maybe later this summer :) I unfortunately have more time to think

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Don Baccus
On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Jeff Rogers wrote: I get down into these filters trying to figure out why my OpenACS installation returned error pages for bad urls instead of the configured 404 page. What appears to be going on is that a preauth filter rp_filter is set up to do

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 11:31:02AM -0700, Jeff Rogers wrote: This also makes it impossible to use acs-templating on the 404 or 500 error page. As I vaguely recall from 10+ years ago, it can be done, although it's not obvious. I did it by dynamically calling the underlying acs-templating

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Jeff Rogers
Don Baccus wrote: On Jun 6, 2011, at 11:31 AM, Jeff Rogers wrote: I get down into these filters trying to figure out why my OpenACS installation returned error pages for bad urls instead of the Yes, this has been a known problem and known to be due to the fact that filter's not being run.

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Don Baccus
On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Rogers wrote: Well my question for now is, if this was fixed/changed in a way like I've suggested, how long would it be before OpenACS could take advantage of the change? Wouldn't it just work automagically if the filter were run and context set up

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Jeff Rogers
Don Baccus wrote: On Jun 6, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Jeff Rogers wrote: Well my question for now is, if this was fixed/changed in a way like I've suggested, how long would it be before OpenACS could take advantage of the change? Wouldn't it just work automagically if the filter were run and context

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Don Baccus
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Jeff Rogers wrote: Of course, this is all theoretical right now. It would be a lot easier to reason about it if there was a real use case. Yes, it is. There's very little development activity around OpenACS these days, and I can't think of anything in

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Andrew Piskorski
On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 05:31:44PM -0700, Don Baccus wrote: (contrary to an opinion stated in a previous post, the request processor implementation is efficient, and isn't an indication that the implementer didn't understand AOLserver, That isn't what I said, Don. There's nothing in

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Don Baccus
On Jun 6, 2011, at 6:07 PM, Andrew Piskorski wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 05:31:44PM -0700, Don Baccus wrote: (contrary to an opinion stated in a previous post, the request processor implementation is efficient, and isn't an indication that the implementer didn't understand AOLserver,

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Don Baccus
On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Andrew Piskorski wrote: In general, I don't think the ACS/OpenACS 4.x request processor design was EVER carefully thought out with respect to all of AOLserver's features and use cases. Or, in this case, didn't understand the bug that the internal redirects on

Re: [AOLSERVER] hacking around

2011-06-06 Thread Jeff Rogers
Don Baccus wrote: On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Andrew Piskorski wrote: In general, I don't think the ACS/OpenACS 4.x request processor design was EVER carefully thought out with respect to all of AOLserver's features and use cases. Or, in this case, didn't understand the bug that the