Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-25 Thread Vincent Philion
Hi Dave! Always a pleasure to read you! I always learn something new! 1. Blossom Protect is ridiculously expensive compared to strep. Of course, I agree. But since we pay a ridiculous amount for strep in Canada, BP is almost affordable. We should really start a business = I send Canadian

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-24 Thread David A. Rosenberger
Hello, Vincent — I believe that the problem Brian had in the year where 6 step sprays were required was lack of chilling hours to complete dormancy. If apples do not get enough chilling, they produce flower buds over a very long interval, and new flowers just keep opening. Concerning

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-24 Thread Vincent Philion
Hi, I’m late in this exchange, but my grain of salt… First, I entirely agree with Dave… except for this: would argue that strep is still the cheapest, most effective, and most proven product for controlling blossom blight, and I see no reason to use other products except where strep resistance

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-24 Thread Vincent Philion
Hi! Thanks for the follow-up information, Brian. Using six strep sprays during bloom, while I can see how it may be necessary, Actually, I don’t understand how 6 sprays on the same flowers can be necessary. Once open flowers are sprayed with strep, the likelihood of building a sufficient

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-24 Thread Kerik Cox
Good point Vincent! Makes sense to me. Kerik At the end of the day, when a number of trials give results “at par” with strep, I don’t see how we can argue that ‘more bacteria survive’ -- Kerik D. Cox, Ph.D., Associate Professor Plant Pathology and Plant-Microbe Biology Section School of

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-23 Thread Jon Clements
While dealing with getting Kasumin 2L registered here in MA, it was pointed out that on the Federal label it says: • Do not apply kasugamycin in orchards in which the soil has been fertilized with animal waste/manure. • Animal grazing in treated areas is prohibited. The public must be notified by

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-23 Thread David A. Rosenberger
Thanks for the follow-up information, Brian. Using six strep sprays during bloom, while I can see how it may be necessary, does make me a bit more uneasy about selecting for strep resistance. In northeastern United States, we often need two sprays during bloom, sometimes three, and very

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-23 Thread David A. Rosenberger
I should have added one more thought: Probably the very best strategy for avoiding selection for strep-resistant Erwinia amylova (Ea) is to prevent fire blight from becoming established in the orchard in the first place. To that end, the integrated strategy that Brian described (copper early,

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-23 Thread Kerik Cox
Hi Dave, I've wondered about this. In several of our orchards. All of the epiphytes all nearly have 100% of the population strep resistance even at the start of the season, so in theory no applications of strep would just as bad as several. The predominance changes over the season and it

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-23 Thread Brian Heatherington
I should be at 4 sprays or less (3 last year) most of the time. The six sprays occurred after the "year without a  winter" several years ago, when the low for the entire winter was 15F and that was only reached twice. We were 5 below here last year, and normally

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-21 Thread maurice tougas
Would oxytetracycline be an effective economical alternative in those borderline instances? Mo Tougas On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Smith, Timothy J smit...@wsu.edu wrote: HI Brian, Yes, that would work well. Kasumin has worked well in Michigan. Tim *From:*

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-21 Thread Brian Heatherington
No resistance from bloom sprays is good news. I have had no control problems with copper prior to green tip, strep timed by Maryblyt, Apogee to minimize pruning/harden shoots to possible shoot blight, and control of aphids/leafhoppers at petal fall/1st cover. A few years

Re: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin for fire blight

2015-03-20 Thread Smith, Timothy J
HI Brian, Yes, that would work well. Kasumin has worked well in Michigan. Tim From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Brian Heatherington Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 1:29 PM To: Apple-Crop Subject: [apple-crop] Kasugamycin