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Good oints Ram-dda,I think the Supreme Court justices took the same view as you.UmeshRam Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The Hindus know that in the Conversion game, they will loose because they have nothing to show to these poor Muslims.That is sad but true. IMHO, this is NOT
The Bhutan King himself wants to abdicate in favor of democracy -people oppose it!. IN Britain the revolution resulting in beheading of the then King (in 14th century?) and later formation of the current constitutional monarchy.Umesh[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://ia.rediff.com/money/2006/apr/10ram.htm?q=bpfile=.htmFYI info IITs and IIMs were already having 22.5% reservation in their seats. Now they have only sought to increase it to 50% -by also including OBCs (Other Backward castes) -as per mandal Commission. Tow of my college batch(and
Ram:
In one recent email, we discussed this very issue,
(That Hindus believe that one has to be
born a Hindu and that they donot convert) and my answer
was same as now:
The Tai Ahoms in Assam, all the
Hindus in South East Asia, to say the least,were all converted to
Hindus. They were not
Rajen-da,Just like Right to live does not mean Right tokill --though everyone who is born must die sometime. Perhaps similalrly, just because religions spread by getting converted to a faith or belief -- does not mean that you get license to convert others.UmeshRajen Barua [EMAIL
Barua,
I do remember (a little vague) about that discussion. Well, I still need to find out about that point, and when I do, I will definitely post it.
In any case, my contention is (and I used the word MOST Hindus) believe that one has to born a Hindu. Now, it may be the scriptures don't
That I would call a twisted Hindu
logic.
RB
- Original Message -
From:
umesh
sharma
To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani
Cc: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:10
PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion
law in Rajasthan?
Rajen-da,
Thats your choice. One can calll anything one wants. There is freedom of _expression_:)UmeshRajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That I would call a twisted Hindu logic. RB- Original Message - From: umesh sharma To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org
Title: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in
Rajasthan?
Just because one can mouth off, does not mean what is mouthed off
has any merit in it.
While I can go about blabbering anything I wish to exercising my
freedom of _expression_, it is NOT without consequences.
What could the consequences
C-da,Pl. give your logic then.UmeshI and Rajen-da wrote:To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in Rajasthan?Rajen-da,Just like Right to live does not mean Right tokill
Title: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in
Rajasthan?
Hi Ram:
All I am saying is that the belief concept of
most Hindus is that they do not believe in conversions into the
religion.
*** WHY do you think it is so? Have you pondered the rationale
behind it it?
Scriptural prohibition?
Title: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in
Rajasthan?
*** Give my logic about WHAT?
At 2:39 AM +0100 4/11/06, umesh sharma wrote:
C-da,
Pl. give your logic then.
Umesh
I and Rajen-da wrote:
To: Rajen
Barua ; Ram Sarangapani
Cc: assam@assamnet.org
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006
Title: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in
Rajasthan?
At 9:37 PM -0500 4/9/06, Barua25 wrote:
Right to
Freedom of Religion is intricately connected to
conversion.
*** Absolutely so! Very good observation.
For me to
change my religion, I must be influenced by that religion and
Then how was Bangladesh able to say couple of years that the illegals were not from their country - when India sought tro deport them (from Pak newspaper http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_6-2-2003_pg4_9"The move has soured bilateral ties, with Bangladesh denying New Delhis
Title: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in
Rajasthan?
While this is true, it is still difficult to
uphold some kinds of conversion like inforcible conversions
orby promising or enticing the unwary withcash or other
things inthis earth, or 79 virgins in heaven.
*** I remain uneducated about
Title: Re: [Assam] IE: Anti-conversion law in
Rajasthan?
At 4:09 AM +0100 4/11/06, umesh sharma wrote:
Ofcourse we all agree one must be able to
convert to any faith of one's choosing -- the debate is about should
anyone demand a right to convert OTHERS.
*** The question of a right arises
Noone is trying to prevent conversions of a third person -- but noone should demand the right to convert others. UmeshPS: http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20060410/302391.htmlNagaland CM supports conversions
http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action="">see the last line.UmeshUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard
umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action=""> 'Brokeback Mountain' not good prison fare NORFOLK, Mass: Massachusetts corrections officials say whoever was responsible for a prison screening of
umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Noone is trying to prevent conversions of a third person -- but noone should demand the right to convert others. UmeshPS: http://inwww.rediff.com/newshound/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20060410/302391
/showarticle.htm?rediffid=http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20060410/302391.html
Nagaland CM supports conversions by hismissionaries .
Rio condemns Anti-Conversion
BillKohima | April 10, 2006 3:39:56 PM
ISTNagaland Chief Minister Neiphiu Rio has urged
convert OTHERS
Since you are trying to split hair,
I will have to ask you what do you think the process of conversion consist of?
And how does one convert oneself without another converting one?. When you join
a political party, does not somebody ask you to? Is that not called converting
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