Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Parallel govts must have its own accountability. *** Only problem here is that Xogunor xawt burha goru nomore At 11:14 AM -0600 1/20/06, Rajen Barua wrote: I think if ULFA would come up with a solid plan how to spend that 5

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Can we say the same for GOI accountability? Or the rule does not apply there? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:35

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org ; Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:25 PM *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) SentinelHeh! heh! Barua, that is yet another explanation

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Barua25
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Is ULFA not even accountable to the people of Assam whom they claim to represent in their demand of independence for Assam? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; Ram Sarangapani Cc

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread mc mahant
uary 18, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Heh! heh! Barua, that is yet another explanation for the faux pas. The idea seems to put the onus on the GOI. But who knows? On 1/18/06, Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Be that as it may, the dema

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread mc mahant
se people are saying NO to Hobo Diok. They are saying : Amar Upai Nai. RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Barua25 Cc: ASSAMNET ; Chan Mahanta Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Heh! heh! Barua,

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel but shouldn't they be accountable to at least the downtrodden, whom Ulfa obviously champions? *** And HOW do RS and RB get to don the halo of championing the cause of those who have kept ULFA operating for a quarter century

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Barua25
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel ULFA represents those who support them, not who oppose them If they donot represent the whole people of Assam, how do they plan to negotiate with GOI? Do they have a list of supporters to show to the GOI? And how do you know thatI

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Geography, my friend! High school geography! Look it up. There is more to Assam than Guwahati. At 10:36 PM -0600 1/20/06, Barua25 wrote: ULFA fights not JUST for the poor and the downtrodden, but a lot of middle class people who

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Borphukon of Jorhat. *** I didn't realize your first name was Badan:-). ULFA represents those who support them, not who oppose them If they donot represent the whole people of Assam, how do they plan to negotiate with GOI? Do

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Rajib Das
Sarangapani[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Cc:* ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org *Sent:* Friday, January 20, 2006 11:35 AM *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Parallel govts must have its own accountability. *** Only problem here is that Xogunor xawt burha

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Ram Sarangapani
; Chan Mahanta Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:25 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Heh! heh! Barua, that is yet another explanation for the faux pas. The idea seems to put the onus on the GOI. But who knows? On 1/18/06, Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-20 Thread Barua25
al Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: mc mahant Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; assam@assamnet.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel MM da, Actual settlement- since '47 -in $$ account will

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel At 10:14 PM -0600 1/18/06, Barua25 wrote: 1: ULFA did not ask MRG , nor does MRG pretend, to speak or negotiate on behalf of ULFA. Is not MRG in the PCG Group which was formed by ULFA of 'like minded' people? Does it not imply

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel You seem to be very much worried at my statement. But you did not answer my question. Is MRG a member of PCG? RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: ASSAMNET ; Barua25 Sent: Thursday, January 19

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Sarangapani ; Roy, Santanu Cc: Rajen Barua ; ASSAMNET ; Chan Mahanta Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel O' Ram: I just want to put a few things in perspective here: 1: ULFA did not ask MRG , nor does MRG pretend, to speak

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Ram Sarangapani
: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel At 10:14 PM -0600 1/18/06, Barua25 wrote: 1: ULFA did not ask MRG , nor does MRG pretend, to speak or negotiate on behalf of ULFA. Is not MRG in the PCG Group which was formed by ULFA of 'like minded' people? Does it not imply that MRG

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Rajib Das
Ramda, Perhaps the message from MRG is that peace is paramount. And if that means the government has to condone extortion and continue with dialog, so be it. I don't know whether she supports ULFA's programs and policies - C'Da says she does not. But from what little I have read in the Indian

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Rajib, Perhaps the message from MRG is that peace is paramount. Maybe thats what she is after and thats what she meant. And if that means the government has to condone extortion and continue with dialog, so be it. So, now for the sake of peace, we should condone something that is wrong.

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel it wasbelieved whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong. *** That is a rather simple-minded view Ram. Maybe I am too naive to understand all this. *** May be. Maybe that is where you are losing it :-). At 11:27 AM

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Ram Sarangapani
C'da *** That is a rather simple-minded view Ram. Of course it is. In all these cacophonous discussions, sometimes the simple truth is lost. Are there shades of whats right and whats wrong? *** May be. Maybe that is where you are losing it :-). But then, I would have the most important

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel What we badly needsomething in the middle for the people which will be pro-Assam. *** Why? What seems to the matter with the one beholden to and made in the image of the GoI one? Can you explain? If something is the matter

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Ram: Are there shades of whats right and whats wrong? *** I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you. I like to think, YOU do know the right answer, even though it is not always convenient to acknowledge it. More so when

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
Hi Rajib: - C'Da says she does not. *** I wrote: 1: ULFA did not ask MRG , nor does MRG pretend, to speak or negotiate on behalf of ULFA. I had little reason to doubt your ability to read and comprehend simple English thus far. But from the above comment, I wonder if you have not caught

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel *** Why? for the people which will be pro-Assam If something is the matter with it, then how would you go about getting that something in the middle? For this we are hoping and Tarun Gogoi and ULFA will make some room

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel At 3:52 PM -0600 1/19/06, Rajen Barua wrote: *** Why? for the people which will be pro-Assam *** Huh? If something is the matter with it, then how would you go about getting that something in the middle? For this we are hoping

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-19 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel We have two govts, ULFA and GOA, running the show parallely for decades without any output. People are saying, that is enough. Hobo Diok. RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Rajen Barua ; ASSAMNET

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Heh-heh-heh! So MRG too is one of the bad-guys now? GoI can mouth off peace mantras, frothing in the mouth about how there is no problem that could not be resolved with 'democracy', while hunting down ULFA, without nary a whimper

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Rajen Barua
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel "Since the ULFA has neither admitted nor denied the issuance of the demand note to the ONGC, it is too early to draw a conclusion on the authenticity of the letter. It may be because MMGis awriter, who by nature of her

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
BIG TIME. And Chandan already said, GOI will not be THE looser. Upai Nai!! RB - Original Message - From: Chan Mahanta To: Ram Sarangapani ; ASSAMNET Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Heh-heh-heh! So MRG too

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Rajen Barua
is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel C'da So MRG too is one of the bad-guys now? Bad 'guy', I don't know, but biased, definitely. She would be jumping up and down, and raising hellif the shoes were on the GOI. Incidently, why is she referred to as the 'negotiator'? Why not call

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Roy, Santanu
)Sentinel Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) SentinelSince the ULFA has neither admitted nor denied the issuance of the demand note to the ONGC, it is too early to draw a conclusion on the authenticity of the letter. It may be because MMG is a writer, who by nature of her tribe

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
for? And Chandan has already declared that Assam will be the looser. RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Chan Mahanta Cc: ASSAMNET Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel C'da So MRG too is one of the bad

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Idon't see the point of hitting out at Mamoni-baideu just because she did not condemn the ULFA for the note received by some bloody oil sucking organization She is not the ULFA, nor their point-man. She is not a cop. It is not her job to make balanced political statements, Is it her job to make

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Roy, Santanu
note is ULFA's: IGP (SB)Sentinel Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) SentinelSince the ULFA has neither admitted nor denied the issuance of the demand note to the ONGC, it is too early to draw a conclusion on the authenticity of the letter. It may be because MMG is a writer, who

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Roy, Santanu
is not the American president at Camp David. -Original Message- From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 1/19/2006 7:40 AM To: Roy, Santanu Cc: Rajen Barua; ASSAMNET; Chan Mahanta Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel What is this politics

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
that she is indulging in? Can you explain? -Original Message- From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu 1/19/2006 6:46 AM To: Roy, Santanu Cc: Rajen Barua; ASSAMNET; Chan Mahanta Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel I don't see the point of hitting out

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Roy, Santanu
this. -Original Message- From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 1/19/2006 9:01 AM To: Roy, Santanu Cc: Rajen Barua; ASSAMNET; Chan Mahanta Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel OK, Let me try and explain (btw - the portion you took out

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel O' Ram: I just want to put a few things in perspective here: 1: ULFA did not ask MRG , nor does MRG pretend, to speak or negotiate on behalf of ULFA. 2: MRG used her influence and goodwill ( which is fairly substantial at Dilli

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread mc mahant
tanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is this politics of "ONGC-GOI-ULFA" that she is indulging in? Can you explain? -Original Message- From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu 1/19/2006 6:46 AM To: Roy, Santanu Cc: Rajen Barua; ASSAMNET; Chan Mahanta Subject: Re:

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Rajib Das
not be. - From: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roy, Santanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:01:09 -0600 OK, Let me try and explain (btw - the portion you took out was actually

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Barua25
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel 1: ULFA did not ask MRG , nor does MRG pretend, to speak or negotiate on behalf of ULFA. Is not MRG in the PCG Group which was formed by ULFA of 'like minded' people? Does it not imply that MRG is not only close to ULFA

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
- From: Ram Sarangapani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thu 1/19/2006 7:40 AM To: Roy, Santanu Cc: Rajen Barua; ASSAMNET; Chan Mahanta Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel What is this politics of ONGC-GOI-ULFA that she is indulging in? Can you explain? Well the ONGC

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Barua25
Title: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel "Be that as it may, the demand note to the ONGC will not hamper the peace process since extortion by militants is not unusual." Thinking again, I think the above statement by MRG may bea 'wish' statement. Note

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB)Sentinel Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) SentinelSince the ULFA has neither admitted nor denied the issuance of the demand note to the ONGC, it is too early to draw a conclusion on the authenticity of the letter. It may be because MMG is a writer, who

Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel

2006-01-18 Thread Ram Sarangapani
3:11 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Demand note is ULFA's: IGP (SB) Sentinel Since the ULFA has neither admitted nor denied the issuance of the demand note to the ONGC, it is too early to draw a conclusion on the authenticity of the letter. It may be because MMGis awriter, who by nature of her tribe