Re: [Assp-user] bad recieptent

2009-03-27 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/26/2009 7:31 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: ASSP should be REJECTING invalid recipients. I see no reason why ASSP should reject invalid recipients when the MTA does an excellent job doing that. The OP was complaining that he was getting spam TO a non-existent USER, and asked how to 'drop

[Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
I'm a little confused on how to catch false positives in ASSP (Ham that ASSP thinks is Spam). When setting up ASSP, the Wiki says to run in Test mode and to Be sure the Prepend Spam Subject is also blank. Then, after in Test mode for a while, it says Either turn off Test Mode or put

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
ja...@jwhorn.com wrote: in Test mode and to Be sure the Prepend Spam Subject is also blank. This would be incorrect. Is should have a tag, in our case, it's [SPAM] Then, after in Test mode for a while, it says Either turn off Test Mode or put something like [SPAM] in the Prepend to

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: But if you turn off test mode, you will never see Ham that ASSP thinks is Spam, because ASSP will filter it out. There is a section called Copy Spam Ham! You should have all Spams send to sendAllSpam.

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: This would be incorrect. Is should have a tag, in our case, it's [SPAM] That is absolutely correct. If you starting your ASSP installation for the first time, no user should see anything strange. So the first several days (weeks) you

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Doug, Thanks for the reply. I'm surprised that the ASSP wiki is incorrect. I don't know who maintains it, but if those sections are really incorrect, I hope somebody will update them. - Jason On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: ja...@jwhorn.com wrote: in Test mode and to Be

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Fritz Borgstedt wrote: That is absolutely correct. If you starting your ASSP installation for the first time, no user should see anything strange. So the first several days (weeks) you run in testmode WITHOUT a tag. Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Fritz, That's interesting. Does the addition of the prepend to the subject (spamSubject) affect the accuracy of the filtering, or is it just for the sake of informing users? I had assumed that the reason not to initially set a value in spamSubject was because the filters would then be

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
This makes sense to me. This is why I find is so strange that the Wiki makes a strong point of saying Be sure the Prepend Spam Subject is also blank, without explaining why. - Jason On Mar 27, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Doug Lytle wrote: Fritz Borgstedt wrote: That is absolutely correct. If you

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training of the database. Doug You may have your own strategy. The strategy of ASSP is to have some days to get familiar with the system. It is unnessary (and we think

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: That's interesting. Does the addition of the prepend to the subject (spamSubject) affect the accuracy of the filtering, or is it just for the sake of informing users? It is for informing users.

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Fritz Borgstedt wrote: You may have your own strategy. The strategy of ASSP is to have some days to get familiar with the system. It is unnessary (and we think wrong) to have user involved in this stage. In Getting Started ( and This is acceptable. We've been using ASSP since 2003 when

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Hill, Brett
Doug Lytle wrote: Really? When we first started out, the end users helped in the training of the database. You trust your end users to do that during initial training? LoL! -- Brett --

Re: [Assp-user] Test mode, false positives and spamSubject

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Hill, Brett wrote: You trust your end users to do that during initial training? LoL! For the most part, it worked well. For those that had questions, we had them call the help desk. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary

[Assp-user] Fw: v1.4.3.1 to v1.5.1 upgrade

2009-03-27 Thread Spyros Tsiolis
Hello , any takers on the v1.4.3.1 to v1.5.1 upgrade ? Haven't heard anything from anyone . Also, I've located a message in the /usr/local/assp/spam/ folder that is ham. Just how do I proceed on delivering this message to its intended receipient and informing assp it flagged a false-positive

Re: [Assp-user] Fw: v1.4.3.1 to v1.5.1 upgrade

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
Spyros Tsiolis wrote: Hello , any takers on the v1.4.3.1 to v1.5.1 upgrade ? I've just done this on my home ASSP server. I went from 1.3.9 to 1.5.1.0 and then updated to 1.5.1.1 (0.07) and am still reading. I did: Killed the ASSP process Backup ASSP folder Verified that I had the

[Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Hi all, I am using the email interface to request a block report, but nothing happens. I send email to bloc...@assp.local, but don't get a reply. I have tried various forms of the email (subject, no subject, addresses in the body, no addresses in the body, etc), but I get nothing back.

Re: [Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: QueueUSerBlockReports: run instantly set it to run delayed -- ___ Assp-user mailing list

Re: [Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread Doug Lytle
ja...@jwhorn.com wrote: Hi all, I am using the email interface to request a block report, but nothing happens. I send email to bloc...@assp.local, but don't get a reply. Actually, this works for me as long as the email address that I'm sending from isn't in the: EmailAdmins:= If

Re: [Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Doug, Thanks for the reply. I tried removing all addresses from EmailAdmins, but it made no difference. On Mar 27, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Doug Lytle wrote: ja...@jwhorn.com wrote: Hi all, I am using the email interface to request a block report, but nothing happens. I send email to

Re: [Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread Fritz Borgstedt
For Users of ASSP assp-user@lists.sourceforge.net schreibt: Fritz, Thanks for your help. I tried this, but it did not make any difference. Any other ideas, or steps I could take to diagnose? I asked already, if you can request a report as user ( not being an admin)

Re: [Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Fritz, I have tried every combination I can think of: request a report as a user request a report as admin as user with no subject or body as user with subject only as admin with no subject or body as admin with subject only as admin with subject and addresses in body as admin with no subject

Re: [Assp-user] Request Block Report (EmailBlockReport) not working

2009-03-27 Thread ja...@jwhorn.com
Not sure if this is important, but I turned on verbose connection logging and verbose report logging. When I send a report request, I notice there is a long time between the connection, and the disconnection. The log looks like this: Mar-27-09 21:13:16 Connected: 96.253.44.215:51792 -

[Assp-user] How to outright block an IP

2009-03-27 Thread Alex Davidson
I have a problem sender (a local TV station) that is bombarding us with legitimate messages to 3 different users, but one of these addresses is no longer active, resulting in them surpassing our Extreme PB levels. They are not responding to my emails to remove the bad address, so I'm looking